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As pointed out, what would be best isn’t an option.
I really don’t think he’s any more ready for the NHL game now than he was at the start of last season, and it’s hard to develop a player at the NHL level if he’s only seeing 10-12 minutes a night, especially if he’s not playing in every game. There’s a lot of potential for a black eye this front office really can’t afford right now… question is, can they resist the temptation?
While having him play in the juniors isn’t really going to benefit him either, this really comes off as a lose/lose situation in terms of Luchanko’s development.
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As pointed out, what would be best isn’t an option.
I really don’t think he’s any more ready for the NHL game now than he was at the start of last season, and it’s hard to develop a player at the NHL level if he’s only seeing 10-12 minutes a night, especially if he’s not playing in every game. There’s a lot of potential for a black eye this front office really can’t afford right now… question is, can they resist the temptation?
While having him play in the juniors isn’t really going to benefit him either, this really comes off as a lose/lose situation in terms of Luchanko’s development.
He is not good enough for the NHL. Going back to juniors may do more harm than good.
Send him to Europe to play in Kappenen or Kimmos organization. Though doubt that will happen as that would require thinking outside the box.
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They have 4 legit NHL centers, but getting the most possible talent into the Top 9 means flipping one to wing or one injury means you’re down to three. That puts Abols or Luchanko into the 4C slot. Center has been upgraded but the situation is still a little dodgy. Not as dodgy as the D, but dodgy. If Luchanko can step up, win a job and stick, it clears a lot up. If he doesn’t, it’s not the end of the world but it looks like the best option.
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They have 4 legit NHL centers, but getting the most possible talent into the Top 9 means flipping one to wing or one injury means you’re down to three. That puts Abols or Luchanko into the 4C slot. Center has been upgraded but the situation is still a little dodgy. Not as dodgy as the D, but dodgy. If Luchanko can step up, win a job and stick, it clears a lot up. If he doesn’t, it’s not the end of the world but it looks like the best option.
– They are not going to have cates or Dvorak play 4th line center. My guess is Dvorak will on the wing.
– It is still TBD to see if Zegras sticks as a center. IMO the coach will have a short leash if he even struggles a little. Tocchet needs results.
– Send the Jett back to juniors. If he makes the team he will get buried unless he just flat out produces. Tocchet will do everything in his power to make the playoffs. Tocchet has other goals that take priority over “developing” the jett -
– They are not going to have cates or Dvorak play 4th line center. My guess is Dvorak will on the wing.
– It is still TBD to see if Zegras sticks as a center. IMO the coach will have a short leash if he even struggles a little. Tocchet needs results.
– Send the Jett back to juniors. If he makes the team he will get buried unless he just flat out produces. Tocchet will do everything in his power to make the playoffs. Tocchet has other goals that take priority over “developing” the jettProbably not, which means there’s a question mark at 4C. Of course, I was suggesting months ago this might happen with Cates, even before they signed Dvorak, and was slammed for it.
Zegras is sticking at center. He’ll pick up the system, which is not that complicated, he’s a smart player. He has to read and react and support the puck. Tocchet needs to get him wingers. Tocchet can also use Cates or Dvorak on LW, let one of them be the man inside the box and lighten the D zone load on TZ.
If Luchanko clearly makes the team, why hold him back? Abols did not look great to me last year.
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Bill, I generally love your work but c’mon.
At just 19 years old, Luchanko has already shown flashes of brilliance. He earned an NHL opening night roster spot last season. Later, he held his own during the Calder Cup playoffs.
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Morever, Luchanko’s late-season assignment to the Phantoms proved transformative.
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This could be the season that helps solidify Luchanko as the franchise’s next cornerstone along with fellow prospect Porter Martone.I’d have to go back to look at what you wrote last year but I don’t think even you thought he forced his way onto the NHL the roster and he was an absolute, unqualified disaster who ended up watching more games from the press box than the ice in his brief 10 game stint. Also, if you thought he earned it last year why would you bring up the possibility him not making it this year? It was a PR stunt from the triumvirate that backfired.
Nobody in the NHL has projected Jett to be a franchise center or a prospect on the level of Martone.
Could he be the next Scott Laughton who is with the team 10 years and whose legend exceeds his actual impact because he plays the right way and was born to be a Flyer? Sure.
As mentioned by previous posters there is no good answer on where to play Jett this year but it would be a bad look for the front office if Jett, who “earned” a spot last year, didn’t make the team this year. Let’s hope he “forces” his way onto the roster, for real this time.
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Bill, I generally love your work but c’mon.
At just 19 years old, Luchanko has already shown flashes of brilliance. He earned an NHL opening night roster spot last season. Later, he held his own during the Calder Cup playoffs.
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Morever, Luchanko’s late-season assignment to the Phantoms proved transformative.
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Did you read who actually wrote the article?
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– They are not going to have cates or Dvorak play 4th line center. My guess is Dvorak will on the wing.
– It is still TBD to see if Zegras sticks as a center. IMO the coach will have a short leash if he even struggles a little. Tocchet needs results.
– Send the Jett back to juniors. If he makes the team he will get buried unless he just flat out produces. Tocchet will do everything in his power to make the playoffs. Tocchet has other goals that take priority over “developing” the jettProbably not, which means there’s a question mark at 4C. Of course, I was suggesting months ago this might happen with Cates, even before they signed Dvorak, and was slammed for it.
Zegras is sticking at center. He’ll pick up the system, which is not that complicated, he’s a smart player. He has to read and react and support the puck. Tocchet needs to get him wingers. Tocchet can also use Cates or Dvorak on LW, let one of them be the man inside the box and lighten the D zone load on TZ.
If Luchanko clearly makes the team, why hold him back? Abols did not look great to me last year.
that is your opinion and far from a fact.
pre-season sometimes is fools gold. unless he flat out dominates back to juniors. I have no faith in the coach putting jett in a position to succeed if he makes the team seeing the coach is pushing for the playoffs. he will straddled to the 4th line with less than ideal linemates.
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that is your opinion and far from a fact.
pre-season sometimes is fools gold. unless he flat out dominates back to juniors. I have no faith in the coach putting jett in a position to succeed if he makes the team seeing the coach is pushing for the playoffs. he will straddled to the 4th line with less than ideal linemates.
I think my opinions and conjecture will end up closer to being right than your’s. That’s already proving out. Greg Cronin flipped Zegras to wing in ANA. Maybe the Flyers should have hired Cronin. If Luchanko wins a slot on the team, he wins it. It does simplify things up front. They can still do the 8 game regular season look if pre-season isn’t enough. Options abound if everyone comes close to delivering.
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that is your opinion and far from a fact.
pre-season sometimes is fools gold. unless he flat out dominates back to juniors. I have no faith in the coach putting jett in a position to succeed if he makes the team seeing the coach is pushing for the playoffs. he will straddled to the 4th line with less than ideal linemates.
I think my opinions and conjecture will end up closer to being right than your’s. That’s already proving out. Greg Cronin flipped Zegras to wing in ANA. Maybe the Flyers should have hired Cronin. If Luchanko wins a slot on the team, he wins it. It does simplify things up front. They can still do the 8 game regular season look if pre-season isn’t enough. Options abound if everyone comes close to delivering.
already proving out lol. love to hear how that is already “proving” out. you crack me up.
options abound on the way to the playoffs. tocchet COY. Go flyers.
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Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors. He did NOT accomplish this last preseason. What I saw was a kid who started to get overwhelmed towards the end of camp as teams started to ramp up their intensity, then I saw a kid who was completely overmatched at the NHL level before being benched and ultimately sent down when the team couldn’t hide it anymore. Torts either got entranced by his obvious speed and it blinded him to all the other shortcomings, or the team was trying to save face when they didnt pick Zeev Buium because Andrae was already on the roster.
He produced 6 assists in the AHL playoffs, though for the most part completely disappeared against Hershey. One would think that a high pick who is supposedly NHL ready would look a lot better than he did when, once again, the intensity ramped up.
My hope for his is that he somehow gets traded out of Guelph to a team that can contend, where he doesn’t have to be the sole decent player on his roster. This is one of those instances where the 19 year old rule hurts a player. I wonder if Europe is an option?
One thing for sure is that I don’t think he is NHL ready. Hopefully he surprises everyone and makes me eat my words.
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Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors. He did NOT accomplish this last preseason. What I saw was a kid who started to get overwhelmed towards the end of camp as teams started to ramp up their intensity, then I saw a kid who was completely overmatched at the NHL level before being benched and ultimately sent down when the team couldn’t hide it anymore. Torts either got entranced by his obvious speed and it blinded him to all the other shortcomings, or the team was trying to save face when they didnt pick Zeev Buium because Andrae was already on the roster.
He produced 6 assists in the AHL playoffs, though for the most part completely disappeared against Hershey. One would think that a high pick who is supposedly NHL ready would look a lot better than he did when, once again, the intensity ramped up.
My hope for his is that he somehow gets traded out of Guelph to a team that can contend, where he doesn’t have to be the sole decent player on his roster. This is one of those instances where the 19 year old rule hurts a player. I wonder if Europe is an option?
One thing for sure is that I don’t think he is NHL ready. Hopefully he surprises everyone and makes me eat my words.
That was such a bullshit excuse by Briere and if he truly thinks that way, pure incompetence. Andrae was never looked at as a future franchise defenseman, Buium was and is projected to be that. They weren’t competing for the same roster spot. Buium is also 6′ despite the size comment.
Flyers were drafting for perceived need, instead of BPA. As it is, both #1 center and #1 defense still need to be desperately addressed.
It felt like to me they were trying to save face because if anyone truly thought Jett was ready for the NHL last year, they were incompetent talent evaluators but that is possible. Remember Torts wanted TDA because he passed the “eye test”, until he played for the Flyers. Torts was instrumental in Drysdale also because he also passed the “eye test” until he came to the Flyers. I think we’re seeing a theme behind the Flyers poor roster decisions over the last few years. Meanwhile the analytics department are collecting checks on the beach.
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Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors. He did NOT accomplish this last preseason. What I saw was a kid who started to get overwhelmed towards the end of camp as teams started to ramp up their intensity, then I saw a kid who was completely overmatched at the NHL level before being benched and ultimately sent down when the team couldn’t hide it anymore. Torts either got entranced by his obvious speed and it blinded him to all the other shortcomings, or the team was trying to save face when they didnt pick Zeev Buium because Andrae was already on the roster.
He produced 6 assists in the AHL playoffs, though for the most part completely disappeared against Hershey. One would think that a high pick who is supposedly NHL ready would look a lot better than he did when, once again, the intensity ramped up.
My hope for his is that he somehow gets traded out of Guelph to a team that can contend, where he doesn’t have to be the sole decent player on his roster. This is one of those instances where the 19 year old rule hurts a player. I wonder if Europe is an option?
One thing for sure is that I don’t think he is NHL ready. Hopefully he surprises everyone and makes me eat my words.
That was such a bullshit excuse by Briere and if he truly thinks that way, pure incompetence. Andrae was never looked at as a future franchise defenseman, Buium was and is projected to be that. They weren’t competing for the same roster spot. Buium is also 6′ despite the size comment.
Flyers were drafting for perceived need, instead of BPA. As it is, both #1 center and #1 defense still need to be desperately addressed.
It felt like to me they were trying to save face because if anyone truly thought Jett was ready for the NHL last year, they were incompetent talent evaluators but that is possible. Remember Torts wanted TDA because he passed the “eye test”, until he played for the Flyers. Torts was instrumental in Drysdale also because he also passed the “eye test” until he came to the Flyers. I think we’re seeing a theme behind the Flyers poor roster decisions over the last few years. Meanwhile the analytics department are collecting checks on the beach.
like they did with Bonk.
Also, briere mentioned york and JD as to no buium. there is zero doubt his agent played a role in them not drafting buium.
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Did you read who actually wrote the article?
No other opinion on Jett, Jetts treatment by the org, or Jett’s future?
Yes, i screwed up but it wasn’t worth even going back and editing the post. Bill wrote the first article and he posted both articles in the thread.
Other than me misattributing the article, thoughts?
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Did you read who actually wrote the article?
No other opinion on Jett, Jetts treatment by the org, or Jett’s future?
Yes, i screwed up but it wasn’t worth even going back and editing the post. Bill wrote the first article and he posted both articles in the thread.
Other than me misattributing the article, thoughts?
Nope
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Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors.
I’m fine with that benchmark. I think it’s at least possible he does that.
Maybe, hopefully. By blow the doors off everyone I mean he needs to show that he is one of the best players on the ice, because he will be playing mostly against other players trying to make the rosters. He cant just be good, he has to be great in comparison, because once the real NHL players start ramping up, it will change rapidly. Just like it did last year.
I’m rooting for him for sure.
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Maybe, hopefully. By blow the doors off everyone I mean he needs to show that he is one of the best players on the ice, because he will be playing mostly against other players trying to make the rosters. He cant just be good, he has to be great in comparison, because once the real NHL players start ramping up, it will change rapidly. Just like it did last year.
I’m rooting for him for sure.
We will see. I’m absolutely rooting for him. The Flyers still aren’t deep down the middle. They have 4 proven NHL centers and may need to flip one to wing to get the most talent into the Top 9. They need another guy there. Not an Abols fan. Michkov turned 20 two months into last season. Luchanko turned 19 last month. I recognize it could be a reach, but if he can do it, the Flyers need him.
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Maybe, hopefully. By blow the doors off everyone I mean he needs to show that he is one of the best players on the ice, because he will be playing mostly against other players trying to make the rosters. He cant just be good, he has to be great in comparison, because once the real NHL players start ramping up, it will change rapidly. Just like it did last year.
I’m rooting for him for sure.
We will see. I’m absolutely rooting for him. The Flyers still aren’t deep down the middle. They have 4 proven NHL centers and may need to flip one to wing to get the most talent into the Top 9. They need another guy there. Not an Abols fan. Michkov turned 20 two months into last season. Luchanko turned 19 last month. I recognize it could be a reach, but if he can do it, the Flyers need him.
if the flyers need the jett, then the season is already lost.
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if the flyers need the jett, then the season is already lost.
As a 4C? Hahahahaha!
Help me understand why you would want the jett on the 4th line with ND and GH? What would that accomplish long term?
What is tocchet track record of developing 19-year-old players who were 1st rd picks?
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Help me understand why you would want the jett on the 4th line with ND and GH? What would that accomplish long term?
Help me understand why you think Abols is a better option. The Flyers still aren’t deep at center. They do have four good ones, but might just move one to wing to make their Top 9 better. Even if they don’t do that, those four guys aren’t all going to play 82 games. They need another guy there unless you’re the president of the Rodrigo Abols fan club.
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Help me understand why you would want the jett on the 4th line with ND and GH? What would that accomplish long term?
Help me understand why you think Abols is a better option. The Flyers still aren’t deep at center. They do have four good ones, but might just move one to wing to make their Top 9 better. Even if they don’t do that, those four guys aren’t all going to play 82 games. They need another guy there unless you’re the president of the Rodrigo Abols fan club.
way to deflect and not answer.
If you can’t figure out why he would be a better option with those other 2 players, then don’t know what to tell you. Also has nothing to do with Abols. Go get another cheap 1 year option.
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Go get another cheap 1 year option.
They might do that too. But Luchanko might be better in the role than either Abols or a cheap one year option. If he is, give him the shot.
The flyers will be a bad team no matter who is the 4th line center. They are going nowhere.
Why would you want to put your building block cornerstone center who has been hyped up in a position to fail on the 4th line. Need long term view.
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The flyers will be a bad team no matter who is the 4th line center. They are going nowhere.
Why would you want to put your building block cornerstone center who has been hyped up in a position to fail on the 4th line. Need long term view.
Mike Richards started with the Flyers as the 4th line center. Of course, he was more than 1 year older than JL is now. I’m not saying it will work, just that if it helps the team, try it.
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The flyers will be a bad team no matter who is the 4th line center. They are going nowhere.
Why would you want to put your building block cornerstone center who has been hyped up in a position to fail on the 4th line. Need long term view.
Mike Richards started with the Flyers as the 4th line center. Of course, he was more than 1 year older than JL is now. I’m not saying it will work, just that if it helps the team, try it.
help the team to get where exactly? how much “help” will he bring playing on the 4th line with 2 slugs who cant keep up with him?
richards also had a much better/higher pedigree than the jett. not even close really. 4 years of juniors. came off a very good ahl cup run. over a ppg. bad comparison to me.
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help the team to get where exactly? how much “help” will he bring playing on the 4th line with 2 slugs who cant keep up with him?
richards also had a much better/higher pedigree than the jett. not even close really. 4 years of juniors. came off a very good ahl cup run. over a ppg. bad comparison to me.
Hahahaha! None of that pedigree nonsense matters. I know you think it does, but it doesn’t. Just more cliches. Was Richards the best guy for that role that season? Things worked out well long term but that 05-06 season ended in catastrophe. Is Luchanko the best guy for that role this season? You claim no but you don’t know. That’s what camp and pre-season is for. That’s what a potential 8 game in season look is for.
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help the team to get where exactly? how much “help” will he bring playing on the 4th line with 2 slugs who cant keep up with him?
richards also had a much better/higher pedigree than the jett. not even close really. 4 years of juniors. came off a very good ahl cup run. over a ppg. bad comparison to me.
Hahahaha! None of that pedigree nonsense matters. I know you think it does, but it doesn’t. Just more cliches. Was Richards the best guy for that role that season? Things worked out well long term but that 05-06 season ended in catastrophe. Is Luchanko the best guy for that role this season? You claim no but you don’t know. That’s what camp and pre-season is for. That’s what a potential 8 game in season look is for.
just more facts. you really are a complete dope. go flyers. go jett. how did the 05/06 end in catastrophe?
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just more facts. you really are a complete dope. go flyers. go jett. how did the 05/06 end in catastrophe?
They were crushed by the Sabres. They looked awful losing in six. Forsberg and Esche each singlehandly won them a game. They finished with the worst record in the league the next year.
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This just in: Flyers acquire another center to push Luchanko down the depth chart.
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what makes peeps think the jett is too good for juniors? not like he lit it up and was the top scorer or what not. what has he done to warrant this narrative.
The team he plays on is bad. That’s part of the issue. There’s some thinking that he won’t benefit from another year in Guelph. My feeling is, if he beats out the other guys competing for roster spots, he should be with the Flyers. Here are some other guys who were very young when they became NHL regulars and how they did that first year. Not sure how considering this is a problem.
COUTURIER 12/07/92 10-1-2011 18 Y 10 M 0.35
PATRICK 09/19/98 10-1-2017 19 Y 1 M 0.41
LUCHANKO 08/21/06 19 Y 2 M
ZEGRAS 03/20/01 10-1-2020 19 Y 7 M 0.81
LINDROS 02/28/73 10-1-1992 19 Y 8 M 1.23
MICHKOV 12/09/04 10-1-2024 19 Y 10 M 0.79
RICHARDS 02/11/85 10-1-2005 20 Y 8 M 0.43
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what makes peeps think the jett is too good for juniors? not like he lit it up and was the top scorer or what not. what has he done to warrant this narrative.
The team he plays on is bad. That’s part of the issue. There’s some thinking that he won’t benefit from another year in Guelph. My feeling is, if he beats out the other guys competing for roster spots, he should be with the Flyers. Here are some other guys who were very young when they became NHL regulars and how they did that first year. Not sure how considering this is a problem.
COUTURIER 12/07/92 10-1-2011 18 Y 10 M 0.35
PATRICK 09/19/98 10-1-2017 19 Y 1 M 0.41
LUCHANKO 08/21/06 19 Y 2 M
ZEGRAS 03/20/01 10-1-2020 19 Y 7 M 0.81
LINDROS 02/28/73 10-1-1992 19 Y 8 M 1.23
MICHKOV 12/09/04 10-1-2024 19 Y 10 M 0.79
RICHARDS 02/11/85 10-1-2005 20 Y 8 M 0.43
GIROUX 01/12/88 1-1-2009 21 Y 0.64He was not and is not this high-end elite prospect who is too good for juniors. Can make all the excuses one wants, he didn’t tear it up or put-up eye-popping numbers. Not some offensive dynamo by any means.
He was 100% not ready for the NHL last season. He did nothing last season in juniors or the ahl to show he is ready this year. Amazes me people want to fast track this kid. He needs to play above and beyond others to get a 10-game look. Anything else back to juniors.
The flyers and flyers-controlled media could be doing this kid a big disservice with all the hype.
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Amazes me people want to fast track this kid. He needs to play above and beyond others to get a 10-game look. Anything else back to juniors.
Who is saying he doesn’t need to win a job? He’s competing with Rodrigo Abols for a bottom 6 center slot. You can make something so simple complicated in your own mind, but that’s the competition. The Flyers have 2-3 slots open up front. Center, for sure and 1-2 wing spots. Luchanko is a center. If he’s better than Abols, he should get the job.
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The team he plays on is bad. That’s part of the issue. There’s some thinking that he won’t benefit from another year in Guelph. My feeling is, if he beats out the other guys competing for roster spots, he should be with the Flyers. Here are some other guys who were very young when they became NHL regulars and how they did that first year. Not sure how considering this is a problem.
COUTURIER 12/07/92 10-1-2011 18 Y 10 M 0.35
PATRICK 09/19/98 10-1-2017 19 Y 1 M 0.41
LUCHANKO 08/21/06 19 Y 2 M
ZEGRAS 03/20/01 10-1-2020 19 Y 7 M 0.81
LINDROS 02/28/73 10-1-1992 19 Y 8 M 1.23
MICHKOV 12/09/04 10-1-2024 19 Y 10 M 0.79
RICHARDS 02/11/85 10-1-2005 20 Y 8 M 0.43
GIROUX 01/12/88 1-1-2009 21 Y 0.64Is that going to be the excuse used if he makes the Flyers this year and doesn’t perform?
Is 8 to 12 minutes a night with Hathaway on one wing and a rotation that would include DesLauriers on the other wing conducive to developing an offensive game? In the situation proposed, I have serious doubts he even comes close to Couturier’s production in your chart above. And that doesn’t even bring in the question if he’s good enough defensively to play against NHL competition (something that wasn’t answered during his brief 4 game look last season).
Now granted, he may not play on the 4th line all season (if he makes the team), but how much confidence will the Flyers have moving a kid up in the lineup if he doesn’t produce (offensively or defensively), and what does a lack of success at the top level (even when considering a minor role) do to the player’s confidence? And if he doesn’t produce, what options do they have other than to hope he eventually works things out or outright benching him?
The Flyers really painted themselves in a corner due to organizational panic after the Gauthier fiasco. They rushed to sign Luchanko, then allowed a coach that obviously had no plan to play the kid to force him onto the NHL roster, limiting future options for the player’s development. Doesn’t seem overly bright for a team hoping he’ll be a big part of their future.
With all of that said… if he does make the Flyers this year, my expectations are very low. Will an already irrational fan base see things the same way?
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Amazes me people want to fast track this kid. He needs to play above and beyond others to get a 10-game look. Anything else back to juniors.
Who is saying he doesn’t need to win a job? He’s competing with Rodrigo Abols for a bottom 6 center slot. You can make something so simple complicated in your own mind, but that’s the competition. The Flyers have 2-3 slots open up front. Center, for sure and 1-2 wing spots. Luchanko is a center. If he’s better than Abols, he should get the job.
Being better than abols means jack shit. He should go back to juniors to work on his offensive game. Stop thinking short term. Agin playing 4th line with 2 slugs will not help him develop an offensive game. Of which I already have doubts about at the nhl level.
Tk, ex selke, tippet, the forest, cates, brink, zegras, mm, Dvorak, gh, and nd.
Maybe spots 2 as nd should not play. wont se shocked they give a pto to a free agent center or guy like motte
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Is 8 to 12 minutes a night with Hathaway on one wing and a rotation that would include DesLauriers on the other wing conducive to developing an offensive game? Now granted, he may not play on the 4th line all season (if he makes the team), but how much confidence will the Flyers have moving a kid up in the lineup if he doesn’t produce (offensively or defensively), and what does a lack of success at the top level (even when considering a minor role) do to the player’s confidence? And if he doesn’t produce, what options do they have other than to hope he eventually works things out or outright benching him?
Being better than abols means jack shit. He should go back to juniors to work on his offensive game. Stop thinking short term. Agin playing 4th line with 2 slugs will not help him develop an offensive game. Of which I already have doubts about at the nhl level.
Why the focus on scoring? He wouldn’t need to score in a depth role. Just don’t get your brains beat out at 5X5. If he can’t avoid that, then yes, back to the OHL. Guelph named a new captain so JL’s return there seems less likely now. Doesn’t change that the Flyers need another center. The advantage with JL is, once he wins a forward spot, the Flyers have a spot well filled for a few years. Yeah, JL will move up the lineup. The group of Couturier, Zegras, Cates and Dvorak won’t each play all 82 games. That’s kind of the point. The Flyers have 4 proven NHL centers. That’s it! That’s the best argument for giving JL a legit shot.
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Is 8 to 12 minutes a night with Hathaway on one wing and a rotation that would include DesLauriers on the other wing conducive to developing an offensive game? Now granted, he may not play on the 4th line all season (if he makes the team), but how much confidence will the Flyers have moving a kid up in the lineup if he doesn’t produce (offensively or defensively), and what does a lack of success at the top level (even when considering a minor role) do to the player’s confidence? And if he doesn’t produce, what options do they have other than to hope he eventually works things out or outright benching him?
Being better than abols means jack shit. He should go back to juniors to work on his offensive game. Stop thinking short term. Agin playing 4th line with 2 slugs will not help him develop an offensive game. Of which I already have doubts about at the nhl level.
Why the focus on scoring? He wouldn’t need to score in a depth role. Just don’t get your brains beat out at 5X5. If he can’t avoid that, then yes, back to the OHL. Guelph named a new captain so JL’s return there seems less likely now. Doesn’t change that the Flyers need another center. The advantage with JL is, once he wins a forward spot, the Flyers have a spot well filled for a few years. Yeah, JL will move up the lineup. The group of Couturier, Zegras, Cates and Dvorak won’t each play all 82 games. That’s kind of the point. The Flyers have 4 proven NHL centers. That’s it! That’s the best argument for giving JL a legit shot.
Gee I don’t know. Nothing comes to mind. N0 need to worry about offense and as long doesn’t get his brains beat out, all good. Sounds like a great development plan.
Can’t possibly be because they will trade him to a contender some point can it?
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Gee I don’t know. Nothing comes to mind. N0 need to worry about offense and as long doesn’t get his brains beat out, all good. Sounds like a great development plan.
There isn’t a need to worry about your 4C scoring when you have 5 20 goal scorers in your top 9. This is not complicated. Maybe the Flyers should go out and get an elite, highly skilled, difference making fourth line center.
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Gee I don’t know. Nothing comes to mind. N0 need to worry about offense and as long doesn’t get his brains beat out, all good. Sounds like a great development plan.
There isn’t a need to worry about your 4C scoring when you have 5 20 goal scorers in your top 9. This is not complicated. Maybe the Flyers should go out and get an elite, highly skilled, difference making fourth line center.
you really are dumb as a fucking stump. have a good weekend.
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Bad groin for over 2 months? Being cautious. Up next surgery.
Where is rizzo? Love saywer Boulton. I
Ellis was day-to-day for months. Gold standard
Jett out for rookie camp. They expected him ready for rookie camp and have now moved the goalposts to training camp.
While it does sound like he’s close, it also wouldn’t surprise me if they announced surgery next week because that’s how the Flyers medical team rolls.
Rotowire Apr 29, 2022
Ellis (lower body) is expected to be healthy by the start of next season, per interim head coach Mike Yeo, Sam Carchidi of Philly Hockey Now reports. Yeo added that Ellis may need to get surgery in the offseason, but the procedure would evidently be relatively minor. -
My uncle had a heart transplant and was up and walking for physical therapy in a day and a half. Was released a week and a half later.
While he has a ways to go the time line is amazing.Meanwhile on the flyers a groin strain lasts for months. An elbow infection requiring surgery lasts for months.
I get it that groin issues for hockey players can be tricky but cmon isn’t there therapy and treatments that aid in recovery?Or is it the typical flyer medical diagnosis? Make it sound minor while major surgery is needed.
Ok maybe offseason training for some things is delayed but really JL and TF are still questionable?
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My uncle had a heart transplant and was up and walking for physical therapy in a day and a half. Was released a week and a half later.
While he has a ways to go the time line is amazing.Meanwhile on the flyers a groin strain lasts for months. An elbow infection requiring surgery lasts for months.
I get it that groin issues for hockey players can be tricky but cmon isn’t there therapy and treatments that aid in recovery?Or is it the typical flyer medical diagnosis? Make it sound minor while major surgery is needed.
Ok maybe offseason training for some things is delayed but really JL and TF are still questionable?
TF has until regular training camp sure but I’m not convinced he is a full participant.Speaking of which unless I missed it nothing by radio silence on risto. Another example waited months after injury to her surgery
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1) The AHL is significantly better than the OHL. In fact, it’s not close.
2) You underrate Luchanko. He can fly. He’s a well above-average playmaker. (Goalscorer no, distributor yes). He’s quite advanced defensively. He has a very high hockey IQ. He was just stuck on a horrid Guelph team with very little around him. Not a great spot for a playmaking center. And he DID make teammates better but it was “silk purse/ sow’s ear” territory.
Regardless of your personal feelings about the player, do you feel he’s progressed since last year when he was an absolute embarrassment on the NHL ice? His junior stat sheet doesn’t show it so, as you have watched the player (although not for a few months because of this exceedingly long groin injury), is it your opinion that he’s made large strides in his game?
Last year, 100% he needed to go back to the OHL and they didn’t do it. The Front Office who celebrated his making the team and patted themselves on the back for being the smartest people in the room on draft day, are 2/3rds still here. If he still shouldn’t make the team this year, do you have any confidence that this time, they would do right by the kid (and by extension admit how bad they were at evaluating him last year)?
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Luchanko scrimmages, Bonk aka Happy Gilmore and more from Flyers rookie camp
“He has been dealing with a couple of things,” Flyers director of player development Riley Armstrong said. “It’s good to see him back out on the ice there. … He showed some pretty good bursts of speed and some hands. He definitely belongs. I would love to see him push for a spot out of camp.
Sounds like he’s over the groin injury and the fans are being prepped for him to make the team this year.
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ND-The Jett-GH can be one of the top 4th lines in hockey.
You think small, which is befitting considering your hockey IQ.
Bump-Luchanko-Grebenkin
Full blown Kid Line.
Easier than taking candy from a baby.
Let me know when that happens slapnuts. You have a better chance at getting laid Then flyers going that route. Dope.
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Easier than taking candy from a baby.
Let me know when that happens slapnuts. You have a better chance at getting laid Then flyers going that route. Dope.
You’re an idiot and a humorless one at that. Are you more excited about the Flyers or Disney On Ice coming to town in December?
disney on ice is more exciting. more bang for your buck.
tell us about your hockey career. I am sure you played at a somewhat high level, no?
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tell us about your hockey career. I am sure you played at a somewhat high level, no?
Lower than pro but higher than my Mom’s basement going head to head with my little sister like you.
lived i=n a rancher, no basement. what A level team did you play for?
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lived i=n a rancher, no basement. what A level team did you play for?
Played in an A level house league. Won two titles. Played D, helped the team win. How about you?
wasn’t quite the athlete you were, spelling B champ 3 years running. 5-7th grade.
can’t say I have ever heard of an “A” level in house league. usually just an in house league.
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can’t say I have ever heard of an “A” level in house league. usually just an in house league.
Not surprised considering your all around lack of knowledge about hockey. There were good players in the league. Former ECHL level pros, college players, some good former high school players. It wasn’t bad hockey at all for hobbyists. Have you ever actually played ice hockey at any level? You know, the kind of hockey where you don’t have to move the net when a car comes down the street.
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can’t say I have ever heard of an “A” level in house league. usually just an in house league.
Not surprised considering your all around lack of knowledge about hockey. There were good players in the league. Former ECHL level pros, college players, some good former high school players. It wasn’t bad hockey at all for hobbyists. Have you ever actually played ice hockey at any level? You know, the kind of hockey where you don’t have to move the net when a car comes down the street.
men’s league is what you’re describing. you played in the lowest level while those you described played in a diff level. don’t think you really know what an inhouse league is holmes.
did you play any youth club hockey? any tier 1 level hockey? shit did you even play JV in high school?
you telling anyone about lack of hockey knowledge is pure entertainment. I was good at fooseball.
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men’s league is what you’re describing. you played in the lowest level while those you described played in a diff level. don’t think you really know what an inhouse league is holmes.
did you play any youth club hockey? any tier 1 level hockey? shit did you even play JV in high school?
you telling anyone about lack of hockey knowledge is pure entertainment. I was good at fooseball.
Call it a men’s league, call it a rec league, it’s still the same. Same rink, every game. Yeah, some of the players did play at higher levels in the past or, at that time, currently. My high school didn’t have a hockey team so that would have been kind of impossible. Where did YOU play? Any organized hockey at any level. Not complicated. I tend to doubt it was anywhere.
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men’s league is what you’re describing. you played in the lowest level while those you described played in a diff level. don’t think you really know what an inhouse league is holmes.
did you play any youth club hockey? any tier 1 level hockey? shit did you even play JV in high school?
you telling anyone about lack of hockey knowledge is pure entertainment. I was good at fooseball.
Call it a men’s league, call it a rec league, it’s still the same. Same rink, every game. Yeah, some of the players did play at higher levels in the past or, at that time, currently. My high school didn’t have a hockey team so that would have been kind of impossible. Where did YOU play? Any organized hockey at any level. Not complicated. I tend to doubt it was anywhere.
inhouse league is for kids. not the same as a mens league they generally separate the talent and have diff levels of play. don’t want stiff like you playing with legit players.
assuming you never played any club hockey since you didn’t answer that question.
played nerf hockey at the YMCA. had a killer team.
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assuming you never played any club hockey since you didn’t answer that question.
played nerf hockey at the YMCA. had a killer team.
Hahahah! I answered your questions in detail and you answered mine with your non-answers. Your hockey experience extends to managing fantasy league teams to bottom tier finishes when you weren’t acting like a deranged troll on hockey boards.
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assuming you never played any club hockey since you didn’t answer that question.
played nerf hockey at the YMCA. had a killer team.
Hahahah! I answered your questions in detail and you answered mine with your non-answers. Your hockey experience extends to managing fantasy league teams to bottom tier finishes when you weren’t acting like a deranged troll on hockey boards.
– you didn’t answer my question. Did you play club level hockey? If so what level
– I did answer. Played nerf hockey, coed to boot
– never entered or thought of entering any gay ass fantasy leagues.
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– you didn’t answer my question. Did you play club level hockey? If so what level
Club level hockey? Not even sure what you mean by that. Can you be a little more vague please. Not sure you do either. You could mean college club teams, and no, I did not play in college. Stopped at midgets as a kid and picked it back up later. Did you? If you did, you clearly didn’t learn much from the experience. Already outlined in plenty of detail my most recent play level.
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– you didn’t answer my question. Did you play club level hockey? If so what level
Club level hockey? Not even sure what you mean by that. Can you be a little more vague please. Not sure you do either. You could mean college club teams, and no, I did not play in college. Stopped at midgets as a kid and picked it back up later. Did you? If you did, you clearly didn’t learn much from the experience. Already outlined in plenty of detail my most recent play level.
The fact you do not know what youth club hockey (delco phantoms, Haverford hawks, junior flyers and the like) is, is funny. Where did you play midgets at? Rizzo rink.
eggs benedict most underrated breakfast food.
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The fact you do not know what youth club hockey (delco phantoms, Haverford hawks, junior flyers and the like) is, is funny. Where did you play midgets at? Rizzo rink.
Then why didn’t you ask if I played youth club hockey if that’s what you meant? Because you’re an idiot? Non-varsity college teams are called club hockey teams. When it comes to hockey, you don’t know what you’re talking about at any level. Why do you assume I grew up in this area? Why should I care or even know about the Delco Phantoms or Haverford Hawks? I don’t live near Delco. Hahahaha! Not surprisingly, your “gotchas” are imbecilic. Have you ever played organized ice hockey at any level? Have you ever been tested for cognitive dysfunction?
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The fact you do not know what youth club hockey (delco phantoms, Haverford hawks, junior flyers and the like) is, is funny. Where did you play midgets at? Rizzo rink.
Then why didn’t you ask if I played youth club hockey if that’s what you meant? Because you’re an idiot? Non-varsity college teams are called club hockey teams. When it comes to hockey, you don’t know what you’re talking about at any level. Why do you assume I grew up in this area? Why should I care or even know about the Delco Phantoms or Haverford Hawks? I don’t live near Delco. Hahahaha! Not surprisingly, your “gotchas” are imbecilic. Have you ever played organized ice hockey at any level? Have you ever been tested for cognitive dysfunction?
I did ask. See post: September 16, 2025 at 3:32 pm. Turd. Don’t need to live near delco to understand what was asked. Did you play youth club hockey? What level? Tier 2? 1? In house little Johhny league?
You wouldn’t even be able to make a college club team unless they had 3 or 4 teams deep and they have no cuts. They would gladly take your money.
Told you played nerf hockey at the YMCA several times.
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I did ask. See post: September 16, 2025 at 3:32 pm. Turd. Don’t need to live near delco to understand what was asked. Did you play youth club hockey? What level? Tier 2? 1? In house little Johhny league?
You wouldn’t even be able to make a college club team unless they had 3 or 4 teams deep and they have no cuts. They would gladly take your money.
Told you played nerf hockey at the YMCA several times.
I wouldn’t have been able to make a college club team when I was in college. So what? College club teams play club teams that represent other colleges you idiot. So you never played organized hockey and never attended college. Seems about right.
“Collegiate club sports in the United States are any sports offered at a university or college in the United States that compete competitively with other universities, or colleges, but are not regulated by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) or National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA), and do not have varsity status.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collegiate_club_sports_in_the_United_States
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You are a fraud. Its ok.
Club hockey is for mostly the little johnny’s of the world. To extend their playing days. Nothing wrong with it mind you.
You telling me how college club hockey operates operate is pure entertainment. Thanks for the education lesson.
What? Hahahaha. Are you drinking again or have you gone off your meds?
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At the same time, Luchanko gained a second opportunity to show his offensive toolkit with Tippett and Grebenkin after a quiet game in Hershey.
Once again, while he made good defensive decisions, he really didn’t display much risk taking. It’s impossible to know for sure if Luchanko is in danger of being sent to junior at the moment. But if he’s going to make the Flyers roster this season, more scoring upside has to be shown over the next few games.
Oh nooo ….. Is this the same guy that DB said blew them away from day 1 last year and is why he made the team?
2024 – “Going into training camp, I never thought he had much of a chance [to make the team], more of an outside chance, small outside chance, to be honest. But he has blown us away from Day 1. The speed is one thing that really jumped out, top-end NHL speed already at such a young age; that’s impressive,” Briere said.
Did that player leave the building when Torts left? Anyway, DB and the Flyers PR dept have to much invested in this kid, i still can’t see them sending him down.
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Once again, while he made good defensive decisions, he really didn’t display much risk taking. It’s impossible to know for sure if Luchanko is in danger of being sent to junior at the moment. But if he’s going to make the Flyers roster this season, more scoring upside has to be shown over the next few games.
If they carry 14 forwards, then it’s between Jett and Bump for #14. All this is academic if a forward gets hurts before the opener. They all make it then unless it’s one of them that gets hurt. All you have to do is be able to read a depth chart. Luchanko didn’t display enough risk taking? Tocchet literally said last night the Flyers are playing with too much risk. Listen to the post game presser. Jett is a responsible player. People are applying Top 6 standards when the team only needs competent 4th line play from him. Do no harm. He’s delivering on that. Yes, send the guy back to juniors, he’s listening to the coach and not a hockey blogger!
In the meantime, Zeev Buium was a -4 in his pre-season debut and three of those goals were on him. He’s making Helge Grans look like Rod Langway.
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Once again, while he made good defensive decisions, he really didn’t display much risk taking. It’s impossible to know for sure if Luchanko is in danger of being sent to junior at the moment. But if he’s going to make the Flyers roster this season, more scoring upside has to be shown over the next few games.
If they carry 14 forwards, then it’s between Jett and Bump for #14. All this is academic if a forward gets hurts before the opener. They all make it then unless it’s one of them that gets hurt. All you have to do is be able to read a depth chart. Luchanko didn’t display enough risk taking? Tocchet literally said last night the Flyers are playing with too much risk. Listen to the post game presser. Jett is a responsible player. People are applying Top 6 standards when the team only needs competent 4th line play from him. Do no harm. He’s delivering on that. Yes, send the guy back to juniors, he’s listening to the coach and not a hockey blogger!
In the meantime, Zeev Buium was a -4 in his pre-season debut and three of those goals were on him. He’s making Helge Grans look like Rod Langway.
Eh, everyone’s got an opinion. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out. I agree with you that he’ll make the team, just not the reasoning why. Just more data points.
A little sensitive on Zeev it seems though with him playing his 1st preseason game.
Jett on the other hand is playing his 2nd full preseason after making the team out of camp last year (as the youngest flyer ever in history in case you didn’t know) and playing in the AHL playoffs. It’s a shame he pooped the bed after all that hype last year. More should be expected of him.
There’s no pressure on Zeev right now or on the ones who drafted him. The pressure is all on DB and Jett. If he’d been drafted by a better franchise he would be just another prospect in the pipeline that nobody outside the org cared about and free to develop on his own timeline whereas on the Flyers they expect him to be their #1 center sooner rather than later, which, imo, would be a disaster if it happens at any point.
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Eh, everyone’s got an opinion. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out. I agree with you that he’ll make the team, just not the reasoning why. Just more data points.
A little sensitive on Zeev it seems though with him playing his 1st preseason game.
Jett on the other hand is playing his 2nd full preseason after making the team out of camp last year (as the youngest flyer ever in history in case you didn’t know) and playing in the AHL playoffs. It’s a shame he pooped the bed after all that hype last year. More should be expected of him.
There’s no pressure on Zeev right now or on the ones who drafted him. The pressure is all on DB and Jett. If he’d been drafted by a better franchise he would be just another prospect in the pipeline that nobody outside the org cared about and free to develop on his own timeline whereas on the Flyers they expect him to be their #1 center sooner rather than later, which, imo, would be a disaster if it happens at any point.
I think Jett will get the 8 game look again and we’ll see what happens from there. Guelph is a complicating factor. The Flyers don’t like him there and it’s there or the Flyers unless he’s traded from Guelph. But his actual play is responsible, he’s not hurting them out there and it’s up to the guys at the top of the depth chart to win them games.
I’m not sensitive about Buium, just amused by the double standard. Imagine: the Flyers could have had Zeev and Grans as a pairing! I didn’t just look at the -4 on the scoresheet. I watched the goals against. Zeev melted down in that game. The guy is further away than Jett and not just because of the position difference. No pressure on MIN? They are a playoff team. Yeah, there’s more pressure on them than the Flyers.
Jett is maybe 3 years away from being a Top 6 center here. 3C? Maybe only two. In the meantime, he’s a responsible two way player with speed at a position the Flyers aren’t deep in.
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I will take any bets the jett will never be a legit top 6 center in the nhl. now maybe by default on a shit bottom team.
why don’t the flyers like him at guelph?
I thought you don’t know anything about gambling.
Well, the team stinks for sure. You can check the standings for that. Apparently, they don’t consider it to be a great environment for development either. The world juniors will take Jett away from whatever team he’s on for 3-4 weeks. I think he gets the 8 game look here. Take a look back at Shane Wright and Seattle. Kind of a similar situation. They were unhappy with him in Kingston.
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I will take any bets the jett will never be a legit top 6 center in the nhl. now maybe by default on a shit bottom team.
why don’t the flyers like him at guelph?
I thought you don’t know anything about gambling.
Well, the team stinks for sure. You can check the standings for that. Apparently, they don’t consider it to be a great environment for development either. The world juniors will take Jett away from whatever team he’s on for 3-4 weeks. I think he gets the 8 game look here. Take a look back at Shane Wright and Seattle. Kind of a similar situation. They were unhappy with him in Kingston.
making a bet doesn’t equate to “knowing” about gambling.
you offer no proof or evidence the flyers dont like him in guelph. understood. flyers are the nhl version of gueplh. check the standings as you say.
why on earth do you want who the flyers think is their cornerstone center playing 4th line with 2 slugs. that will do wonders for his development and the flyers future. though you have made it clear you do whats “best” for the team in the jetts case. brilliant.
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making a bet doesn’t equate to “knowing” about gambling.
you offer no proof or evidence the flyers dont like him in guelph. understood. flyers are the nhl version of gueplh. check the standings as you say.
why on earth do you want who the flyers think is their cornerstone center playing 4th line with 2 slugs. that will do wonders for his development and the flyers future. though you have made it clear you do whats “best” for the team in the jetts case. brilliant.
It’s been discussed. Do try to keep up. Already said not sure how much the Flyers weigh the Guelph situation.
Why on Earth do you want who the Flyers think is their cornerstone center playing on a first line in Guelph with two slugs?
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making a bet doesn’t equate to “knowing” about gambling.
you offer no proof or evidence the flyers dont like him in guelph. understood. flyers are the nhl version of gueplh. check the standings as you say.
why on earth do you want who the flyers think is their cornerstone center playing 4th line with 2 slugs. that will do wonders for his development and the flyers future. though you have made it clear you do whats “best” for the team in the jetts case. brilliant.
It’s been discussed. Do try to keep up. Already said not sure how much the Flyers weigh the Guelph situation.
Why on Earth do you want who the Flyers think is their cornerstone center playing on a first line in Guelph with two slugs?
ok now your not sure how much they want him there; despite saying otherwise . got it.
self explanatory to most.
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<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”font-size: 15px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>I will take any bets the jett will never be a legit top 6 center in the nhl. now maybe by default on a shit bottom team.
<p data-userway-font-size=”12″ style=”font-size: 15px !important; transition: all;” data-userway-s4-bigger-text-styled=”true”>why don’t the flyers like him at guelph?
He has a lot to work on. He’s pretty uninspiring right now
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There’s that Zeev Buium again. Only a -2 tonight . . . against the Black Hawks scrubs. Only a -6 in two pre-season games.
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the flyers have told their media shills to prop him up to an extent. the reasons they want him to make the team just show pure incompetecne.
“Luchanko has the tools to be a solid third-line center right now, and the speed and hockey sense to make his way up the lineup eventually once some offense comes his way. His puck skills and shot definitely need some work, but he’s not necessarily going to improve them more in the OHL than he would in the NHL.”
no he doesnt. yes he will.
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“Learning and developing skills doesn’t have to happen in the lower leagues. Players are constantly improving and adding things to their bags of tricks throughout their careers, especially early on. The Flyers have made a point of growing a strong culture in the locker room, and there are plenty of players on the roster who he could learn different things from.”always the culture. this guy is so off base with that piece its laughable.
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“Getting a proper look at Luchanko this season would also help things going into next offseason, when the Flyers are prepared to spend big.”
spend big on who. another hayes like player as thats all they can get. 1 year is also not a proper look at all.
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“Learning and developing skills doesn’t have to happen in the lower leagues. Players are constantly improving and adding things to their bags of tricks throughout their careers, especially early on. The Flyers have made a point of growing a strong culture in the locker room, and there are plenty of players on the roster who he could learn different things from.”always the culture. this guy is so off base with that piece its laughable.
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Flyers are always promoting their culture. It’s the last refuge of a team that has nothing else to sell the fans. Every team has a culture, every single one.
The Flyers are Sabres are copying off of each other and i’m not sure that’s a good thing.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6639471/2025/09/18/sabres-training-camp-thoughts-2025/
Ruff also said culture was “everything” when the Sabres were trying to improve the roster in the offseason. In trading JJ Peterka for Michael Kesselring and Josh Doan, the Sabres got two strong locker room pieces who are difficult to play against. Ruff also mentioned Justin Danforth and Mason Geertsen as two signings that fall into that same bucket. Ruff is clear that he wants the team to be better defensively, and he wants a hardworking team that is a pain to play against.
After all the bullshit even Ruff admits : “Talk is cheap,” Ruff said. “We’re going to have to just win games.” The article could’ve just posted this and saved 1000 words.
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Here you go. A pro-Jett article that advocates him making the the opening night roster in 2025. I almost expected FlyerFrank’s name in the byline.
His main argument is in the opening line : Jett Luchanko started last season in the NHL, and there’s no reason that he shouldn’t do the same this year.
The 2024 13th overall pick impressed John Tortorella & Co. in training camp last season, and due to the lack of center depth on the roster at the time, got a look with the big club to begin the season. While he ultimately got sent to the OHL after appearing in just four games, the 18-year-old centerman didn’t look out of place in just over 56 minutes of action.
Come on, how can Ryan Gilbert expect anyone to take the article seriously after posting that? He was abysmal. There was a reason he only played 4 games and watched the 5 before they could claim they gave him the 10 game tryout and it wasn’t because he “didn’t look out of place” and there’s plenty of evidence that the hype of him making the team was more fiction than fact.
There are bound to be injuries throughout the season, and if Luchanko progresses well — or maybe just doesn’t regress — he could see himself centering the second line if one of the Flyers’ top pivots goes down. Hell, he could move up the lineup anyway if the Flyers need speed and a spark.
We’ve already moved on from should he make the team to Flyers 2nd line pivot.
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Here you go. A pro-Jett article that advocates him making the the opening night roster in 2025. I almost expected FlyerFrank’s name in the byline.
His main argument is in the opening line : Jett Luchanko started last season in the NHL, and there’s no reason that he shouldn’t do the same this year.
Hahahaha! The Flyers went into camp with a center spot up for grabs: Abols and Luchanko were the main contenders. Abols, at 29, decided to really work on his skating before camp and looks like a different player. Who saw that coming? Anybody? So the Flyers still like Jett. At this point, he’s more of a want than a need, due to Abols, but the Flyers clearly want him. I see a guy with noticeable speed who plays soundly and responsibly. He passes when he has shooting opportunities? Gee, that’s never happened before with any player. Seems to me the Flyers think whatever shortcomings are in his game now can be coached through in the short term. Jett’s getting at least the 8 game look.
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“Learning and developing skills doesn’t have to happen in the lower leagues. Players are constantly improving and adding things to their bags of tricks throughout their careers, especially early on. The Flyers have made a point of growing a strong culture in the locker room, and there are plenty of players on the roster who he could learn different things from.”always the culture. this guy is so off base with that piece its laughable.
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Flyers are always promoting their culture. It’s the last refuge of a team that has nothing else to sell the fans. Every team has a culture, every single one.
The Flyers are Sabres are copying off of each other and i’m not sure that’s a good thing.
Ruff also said culture was “everything” when the Sabres were trying to improve the roster in the offseason. In trading JJ Peterka for Michael Kesselring and Josh Doan, the Sabres got two strong locker room pieces who are difficult to play against. Ruff also mentioned Justin Danforth and Mason Geertsen as two signings that fall into that same bucket. Ruff is clear that he wants the team to be better defensively, and he wants a hardworking team that is a pain to play against.
After all the bullshit even Ruff admits : “Talk is cheap,” Ruff said. “We’re going to have to just win games.” The article could’ve just posted this and saved 1000 words.
more buzzwords. winning makes you hard to play against. shocked they still get paying fans to those games
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Here you go. A pro-Jett article that advocates him making the the opening night roster in 2025. I almost expected FlyerFrank’s name in the byline.
His main argument is in the opening line : Jett Luchanko started last season in the NHL, and there’s no reason that he shouldn’t do the same this year.
Hahahaha! The Flyers went into camp with a center spot up for grabs: Abols and Luchanko were the main contenders. Abols, at 29, decided to really work on his skating before camp and looks like a different player. Who saw that coming? Anybody? So the Flyers still like Jett. At this point, he’s more of a want than a need, due to Abols, but the Flyers clearly want him. I see a guy with noticeable speed who plays soundly and responsibly. He passes when he has shooting opportunities? Gee, that’s never happened before with any player. Seems to me the Flyers think whatever shortcomings are in his game now can be coached through in the short term. Jett’s getting at least the 8 game look.
that in itself is a disgrace and more incompetence.
hope the jett makes it. plays in all the games. never develops offensively. then in 4 years still see flyers fans defend this organization.
said from the beginning he would be the 4th line center. he has outplayed the jett for the role they need him to play. or do you disagree.
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that in itself is a disgrace and more incompetence.
hope the jett makes it. plays in all the games. never develops offensively. then in 4 years still see flyers fans defend this organization.
said from the beginning he would be the 4th line center. he has outplayed the jett for the role they need him to play. or do you disagree.
Abols has absolutely outplayed Jett. He raised his game significantly with some targeted skating work. Great! Like I said, Jett is a want on the roster, not a need. He was at least a likely need going in. Abols has been the most pleasant surprise of camp. Not sure how that is a negative on Jett. Ginning then Grebenkin would be right behind Abols.
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that in itself is a disgrace and more incompetence.
hope the jett makes it. plays in all the games. never develops offensively. then in 4 years still see flyers fans defend this organization.
said from the beginning he would be the 4th line center. he has outplayed the jett for the role they need him to play. or do you disagree.
Abols has absolutely outplayed Jett. He raised his game significantly with some targeted skating work. Great! Like I said, Jett is a want on the roster, not a need. He was at least a likely need going in. Abols has been the most pleasant surprise of camp. Not sure how that is a negative on Jett. Ginning then Grebenkin would be right behind Abols.
The jett shouldn’t be a want and he def isn’t a need. Who said it was a negative? Still funny though he can’t outshine a 30 year old borderline nhl player no? hence no reason to even contemplate him on the nhl roster. 8 game look is a waste and meaningless if that is what they do.
Where was it said he worked on some targeted skating work?
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The jett shouldn’t be a want and he def isn’t a need. Who said it was a negative? Still funny though he can’t outshine a 30 year old borderline nhl player no? hence no reason to even contemplate him on the nhl roster. 8 game look is a waste and meaningless if that is what they do.
Where was it said he worked on some targeted skating work?
Watch, listen and learn. It’s been discussed. Cued up for your convenience.
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The jett shouldn’t be a want and he def isn’t a need. Who said it was a negative? Still funny though he can’t outshine a 30 year old borderline nhl player no? hence no reason to even contemplate him on the nhl roster. 8 game look is a waste and meaningless if that is what they do.
Where was it said he worked on some targeted skating work?
Watch, listen and learn. It’s been discussed. Cued up for your convenience.
maybe the jett should work on targeted scoring, back in juniors.
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Hahaha, that’s an option. Playing alongside junior slugs on a bad team in Guelph is always an option.
One of the major talking points for anyone that wants Luchanko to stay with the Flyers is the thought that him heading back to the Guelph Storm wouldn’t even get his offense going because it is such a poor scoring environment. Well, that might have been the case in previous seasons but it isn’t anymore.
For the 2025-26 season, the Storm added some veterans and kept a whole lot of players around. Their main acquisition this summer was getting overage forward Ethan Miedema from the Kingston Frontenacs. The 20-year-old former fourth-round pick of the Buffalo Sabres already leads the Storm in scoring with five points through the first four games and should easily be in contention to be Luchanko’s wing if he returns to Guelph.
And even then, the Storm kept solid defenseman prospect Quinn Beauchesne on the team, have plenty of veterans like Carter Stevens, Hunter McKenzie, new captain Charlie Pacquette, and even extremely young top prospects like forward Jaakko Wycisk, who should be one of the best players of the 2027 NHL Draft class. Guelph is no London or Oshawa in terms of being loaded with NHL prospects, but there is easily a path that they can take to being a playoff team this season.The narrative around the Storm being this terrible experience like it’s the worst hockey team ever put together, should probably stop.
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Rick Tocchet makes curious lineup decisions for Flyers’ penultimate preseason game
Some Abols/Luchanko perspective from last night.
That could mean bad news for Luchanko, who either has to stay in the NHL or be sent back to the OHL for this season. Does a decision come in the next couple of days? Does it happen before the Flyers’ final preseason game this Saturday? If he’s not going to be in any more exhibition games for the Flyers, why keep him around?
It’s crazy how much the narrative in the media has changed around Jett in the last 24 hours. It’s almost like Comcast PR sent a memo to everyone.
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It’s crazy how much the narrative in the media has changed around Jett in the last 24 hours. It’s almost like Comcast PR sent a memo to everyone.
Could also be bloggers are just running out of things to write about. There’s one odd man out and who that is is completely dependent on carrying 7 or 8 Dmen. If they carry 7, Jett has already made the team. Learn to love it.
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Fwiw, it looks like ND and Jett make the team with Abols being the cut if they go with 8 defensemen. Not very smart. I still can’t believe the Flyers think ND is an NHL hockey player.
Speaking with a source Thursday, I was told 2024 first-round pick Jett Luchanko is likely to at least start the year in the NHL, though not much else is set in stone, and he may ultimately be returned to the OHL’s Guelph Storm once the regular season begins.
Given the two aforementioned forwards (presumably) locking in spots, it has left Rodrigo Abols as someone on the outs (at least to start the season) up front; Nicolas Deslauriers, though likely to be the 13th forward more times than not, is not going to be waived. While Abols could find himself en route to the AHL’s Lehigh Valley Phantoms by the start of next week, there is a possibility that the Flyers open the year with 14 forwards.
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flyers have always been a merit based orginization…..glad the jett will make it. hope he is the best 4th line center the flyers ever had going forward.
what are they going to get in a trade for andrae? every team has their version of andrae. so much for nhl ready a year ago per flahr.
Oh, you haven’t heard? He’s being packaged with newly-minted whipping-boy Owen Tippett for a top 4 defenseman. At least that was the word on Twitter this morning.
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https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/jett-luchanko-makes-flyers-roster-110006297.html
What we can deduce, however, is that the Flyers didn’t give themselves the best runway for developing a player by selecting Luchanko over a Helenius, for example.
Now that game one is in the books and the Flyers have a day off, how would you rate the technically still a rookie’s performance so far?
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What we can deduce, however, is that the Flyers didn’t give themselves the best runway for developing a player by selecting Luchanko over a Helenius, for example.
Now that game one is in the books and the Flyers have a day off, how would you rate the technically still a rookie’s performance so far?
“good” enough to make the team then he should be in every game pretty much. especially the 1st one. great development. I know florida is a physical team and all the other nonsensical BS.
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– he does not project as a top 6 center outside the flyers. majority of have him bottom 6.
– he did not dominate juniors. not sure how you can say he stood out.
– he is not nhl ready. that is not a bad thing or even a negative.
– flyers will once again look like fools when they eventually send him back.
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He’s the player the Flyers will likely send down to create space for a fourth-line center. Luchanko projects as a top-six center and needs that type of ice time (he’s had 7:40 and 8:49 in two games). So, unless he impresses in the next few games, he’ll be sent somewhere to develop (and based on the rules, that somewhere is most likely junior hockey).
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Those games were a reminder that while Luchanko has the upside and will eventually be a top-six center, he isn’t one yet. The Flyers can’t give him minimal ice time, typically designated for a checking line center, and expect it to benefit his development. They also can’t move him up in the lineup when the other centers are playing well, which has happened in recent games. It’s why general manager (GM) Daniel Briere is in a pickle with his prospect, one he knew he’d end up in with one of the elite young talents but didn’t know it would be Luchanko (although he had to anticipate it, considering the position).We’re not as sold — despite his team-leading 53 points in 48 OHL games — that there’s enough skill to make him worth the first-round bet, but the combination of raw athletic ability, high motor, solid skating and defensive acumen makes Luchanko an easy-to-project player. There’s a role in the NHL as a third-line checking forward in Luchanko’s near future, and for an August birthday, that’s rare.
Just saying the least experienced FO in the league might not be the people you should trust for player projections. It’s not like they got the jobs on merit or keen player evaluation skills. Also, there’s been plenty written about him not dominating the OHL and blaming it on the team he was on. A team which has since improved on the ice before this year started and would give him all the minutes he can handle.
Nobody expected the 4th line time to help his development except the people who make the decisions which is why their decision making is questionable but short of him losing a limb, even missing most of the offseason, there was no way DB’s prize pick was not going to make the team again. The reality always was that he should’ve started in the OHL (or college which because of DB he can’t).
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But his offensive game still needs to come around. Luchanko only has one shot attempt in about 27 minutes of ice time; only the Vancouver Canucks’ Arshdeep Bains has played more among forwards with one or zero shot attempts this season.
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Last year, though, it felt more because Luchanko popped, whereas this season, it seemed to have more to do with the team’s reluctance to have him repeat the OHL level (although last season’s lack of center talent was also a contributing factor).
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Though the team can dress him up to six more times this season without burning a year of his entry-level contract, a referendum feels like it’s coming sooner rather than later. Having the 19-year-old play fourth-line minutes was never a long-term situation, and he hasn’t popped enough to warrant a larger role. -
Speaking with a team source Monday morning, the Flyers are considering sending Luchanko to the AHL’s Lehigh Valley Phantoms on a conditioning stint. While it hasn’t been confirmed to me, it appears returning him to the OHL’s Guelph Storm is an option the Flyers are delaying as long as possible.
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Why they are delaying as long is possible is a joke (dont want to look bad?). He is also not far past the point of junior hockey. Why people think this is also a joke. How can a simple solution turn into a project just reeks of more management incompetence.
didnt realize healthy scratch 6/7 dman are worth a 3rd rd pick. flyers once again overvaluing their players?
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This kid should be back in junior, it’ll be a wasted year for him down there but it’s better to work on his offense in junior than flail away with the Flyers playing 8 minutes a night.
how is it a wasted year?
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This kid should be back in junior, it’ll be a wasted year for him down there but it’s better to work on his offense in junior than flail away with the Flyers playing 8 minutes a night.
I don’t think it would be a wasted year simply because he has never dominated at that level. Many excuses have been due to the fact that he hasn’t dominated basically blaming the team and giving him a free pass. I would like him to show us he is to good for the league.
The other part of that is he could be playing in College with Martone if DB hadn’t rushed to sign him to a contract all so he could be the NHL equivalent of a purse dog. Unfortunately, when DB showed Jett to all his friends he didn’t perform as expected and went back into the purse. Now DB is stuck, if Jett didn’t make the team this year, then it would reflect negatively on DB and if there’s anything we know about this front office is that they are very very image conscious.
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It’s kind of crazy that Jett has had 2 separate 10 game tryouts and has yet to come close to playing 10 TOTAL games. Spending more time with the fans watching the games than actually being dressed. It just speaks as to how desperate DB has been for a “win” regarding Jett. A player who they endlessly hyped after his draft and promoting him being the “youngest player in history to make the team”. Unfortunately when he was actually on the ice they couldn’t get him off of it fast enough.
Look for him to go through the same charade next year before finally being able to send him to the AHL.
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Wheeler states, “Porter Martone’s awesome, Matvei (Michkov)‘s still going to be awesome, they’ve used two top-12 picks on two kids who might top out as third-line centers for them.”
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If you think the Flyers need a superstar center and defenseman, then you’ve probably been panicking for a while now. The truth is, there isn’t a reasonable path for the team to acquire both of these pieces. They could get lucky and draft one in 2026, but getting the other won’t be easy.——————
And Scott Wheeler. Everyone thinks he tops out at 3rd line center, now, when apparently it’s safe to not toe the company line. It’s just ridiculous that everyone had to lie to the public for over 2+ years even though every evaluation of him all along pointed to this probable outcome.
Not that anybody cares about the Flyers anymore other than a few die hards. And they don’t understand why the Flyers keep falling further and further behind the other sports in Philly.
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Even SnowTheGoalie has finally realized what everyone outside of the Flyers front office knows. That the Jett that DB has been selling doesn’t exist. Or maybe Comcast’s check didn’t clear this month.
then you have fat ant still trying to defend it
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After joining the Brantford Bulldogs via trade, Luchanko wasn’t exactly blowing the doors off and was quickly buried on the depth chart behind Seattle Kraken prospect Jake O’Brien, the 2025 No. 9 overall pick, and Caleb Malhotra, a top 2026 draft prospect.
But, in the last four games, Luchanko had moved from third line center to first line right wing, flanking O’Brien and 2024 draft classmate Marek Vanacker.Looks like our Flyers nightmare of Jett being the future at center might finally close to being behind us. He couldn’t hack it as a top 6 center on a good team in the OHL, what chance does he have in the NHL? It’s hilarious that his best position might be winger, if he even makes it. So much for DB drafting for need over talent in 2024 and now the Flyers have more wingers than can possibly play in the NHL and still no center prospects.
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