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August 22, 2025 at 12:21 pm #22542
FlyerFrank
Participantthe flyers formula is a way not to win a cup. 100% verified. but hey those big players the flyers drafted in 2025 will get them over the top in 3 years.
You can come out of the fallout shelter now. The bad Chuck and Hexy days are over.
August 22, 2025 at 12:37 pm #22545Flyers_01
ParticipantThe Flyers are just going to outwork everyone to the Stanley Cup, talent be damned.
Yes, that’s the answer. Make the Ice Capades fans happy with lots of “puck moving” defensemen and highly skilled, speedy forwards who weigh less than most of the players on the US Women’s National Team. That’s a sure formula for a Cup win.
How about instead working off of a false premise that talent and hard work are mutually exclusive we agree that it takes talent and hard work to win the Stanley Cup?
Connor McDavid may be 6’1″ but he weighs 194, only a few more lbs than Buium and far less than your 200 lb minimum criteria to be on a cup team. Are those 6 lbs why the oilers didn’t win the cup last year? If he was only 5’11 do you not draft him because he’s not 6′ despite his amazing talent?
If you want amazing talent in a 6′ + frame, there’s only one place to get it, the top of the draft, where the Flyers refuse to go.
Barkov never hit UFA. Ekblad never hit UFA, Crosby never hit UFA, McKinnon never hit UFA, and so on and so on. Even Tkatchuk, had to both refuse to sign with the team and another top 5 pick player willing to go to Calgary for the types of players the Flyers do not have. Where do you think the Flyers are going to get these types of Stanley Cup players?
Despite your complaints that the Flyers just need to work harder, that’s exactly what the Flyers have been focusing on the last 3 years. The result :
https://www.nhl.com/news/philadelphia-flyers-relieve-john-tortorella-of-his-duties-as-head-coach
August 22, 2025 at 12:42 pm #22548yes its me 2050
Participantthe flyers formula is a way not to win a cup. 100% verified. but hey those big players the flyers drafted in 2025 will get them over the top in 3 years.
You can come out of the fallout shelter now. The bad Chuck and Hexy days are over.
danny boy has this franchise on the right path. he played the game, got wharton certificate. learned under chuck. they are in good hands. just look at the results since he took over. how can one not be impressed.
wonder if he will still be the GM when/if those 2025 draft picks arrive. will tocchet still be the coach.
August 22, 2025 at 1:08 pm #22553FlyerFrank
ParticipantConnor McDavid may be 6’1″ but he weighs 194, only a few more lbs than Buium and far less than your 200 lb minimum criteria to be on a cup team. Are those 6 lbs why the oilers didn’t win the cup last year? If he was only 5’11 do you not draft him because he’s not 6′ despite his amazing talent?
McDavid isn’t a defenseman either. It was awesome how all those 170 pound FLA Dmen were able to contain McD though. It’ll be interesting to see how Buium fits in Minnesota. The Flyers already had Drysdale for that role, I know that was a bad return in a bad spot, and needed a center more. The draft is done. Luchanko might still make the team this year. The Flyers can still use another guy who can play center.
August 22, 2025 at 2:02 pm #22564Flyers_01
ParticipantMcDavid isn’t a defenseman either. It was awesome how all those 170 pound FLA Dmen were able to contain McD though. It’ll be interesting to see how Buium fits in Minnesota. The Flyers already had Drysdale for that role, I know that was a bad return in a bad spot, and needed a center more. The draft is done. Luchanko might still make the team this year. The Flyers can still use another guy who can play center.
Never said he was. Your arguments are a bit all over the place. So do you not care about size of forwards now? Is it the size on defense that contained McDavid or was it the defense backchecking like demons? Backchecking is not dependent on being huge. The puck is at ice level for everyone. Does skill matter at all in your world or is everyone Nick Seeler in a 6′ 200lb frame? It seems your position seems to change depending on the post.
Luchanko will definately make the team this year. Ready or not. Look how bad he was last year and they still tried to force him onto the roster. If he didn’t poop the bed so bad he might’ve gotten his 10 games in at least. It’s not like he had a stellar training camp either.
The Flyers could use a franchise center, franchise dman, and franchise goalie. You still haven’t addressed how the Flyers are going to acquire those necessary pieces.
Imagine Sanheim only having to be your #2 or #3 dman. Imagine Coots as your #2 center and Luchanko as your #3 center. Imagine, because that’s the only place you see the Flyers as a good team.
August 22, 2025 at 2:08 pm #22565yes its me 2050
ParticipantConnor McDavid may be 6’1″ but he weighs 194, only a few more lbs than Buium and far less than your 200 lb minimum criteria to be on a cup team. Are those 6 lbs why the oilers didn’t win the cup last year? If he was only 5’11 do you not draft him because he’s not 6′ despite his amazing talent?
McDavid isn’t a defenseman either. It was awesome how all those 170 pound FLA Dmen were able to contain McD though. It’ll be interesting to see how Buium fits in Minnesota. The Flyers already had Drysdale for that role, I know that was a bad return in a bad spot, and needed a center more. The draft is done. Luchanko might still make the team this year. The Flyers can still use another guy who can play center.
lol
August 22, 2025 at 2:18 pm #22573FlyerFrank
ParticipantNever said he was. Your arguments are a bit all over the place. So do you not care about size of forwards now? Is it the size on defense that contained McDavid or was it the defense backchecking like demons? Backchecking is not dependent on being huge. The puck is at ice level for everyone. Does skill matter at all in your world or is everyone Nick Seeler in a 6′ 200lb frame? It seems your position seems to change depending on the post.
Luchanko will definately make the team this year. Ready or not. Look how bad he was last year and they still tried to force him onto the roster. If he didn’t poop the bed so bad he might’ve gotten his 10 games in at least. It’s not like he had a stellar training camp either.
The Flyers could use a franchise center, franchise dman, and franchise goalie. You still haven’t addressed how the Flyers are going to acquire those necessary pieces.
Imagine Sanheim only having to be your #2 or #3 dman. Imagine Coots as your #2 center and Luchanko as your #3 center. Imagine, because that’s the only place you see the Flyers as a good team.
Size matters but exceptional players are exceptions. Is Bobby Brink an exceptional player? I don’t think he is. The center situation is a little better this year and a man deeper with Luchanko if he can pull it off. If not, they might have to scramble at 4C if there’s a long injury or Tocchet just wants to work both Cates and Dvorak into the top 9. If Zegras gets back to a .7 or so PPG level, he’s your number one center. I think he can do a little better. The D still needs work. There are only so many guys in the league that are better than Sanheim. It’s not that long a list.
August 22, 2025 at 2:32 pm #22578yes its me 2050
ParticipantNever said he was. Your arguments are a bit all over the place. So do you not care about size of forwards now? Is it the size on defense that contained McDavid or was it the defense backchecking like demons? Backchecking is not dependent on being huge. The puck is at ice level for everyone. Does skill matter at all in your world or is everyone Nick Seeler in a 6′ 200lb frame? It seems your position seems to change depending on the post.
Luchanko will definately make the team this year. Ready or not. Look how bad he was last year and they still tried to force him onto the roster. If he didn’t poop the bed so bad he might’ve gotten his 10 games in at least. It’s not like he had a stellar training camp either.
The Flyers could use a franchise center, franchise dman, and franchise goalie. You still haven’t addressed how the Flyers are going to acquire those necessary pieces.
Imagine Sanheim only having to be your #2 or #3 dman. Imagine Coots as your #2 center and Luchanko as your #3 center. Imagine, because that’s the only place you see the Flyers as a good team.
Size matters but exceptional players are exceptions. Is Bobby Brink an exceptional player? I don’t think he is. The center situation is a little better this year and a man deeper with Luchanko if he can pull it off. If not, they might have to scramble at 4C if there’s a long injury or Tocchet just wants to work both Cates and Dvorak into the top 9. If Zegras gets back to a .7 or so PPG level, he’s your number one center. I think he can do a little better. The D still needs work. There are only so many guys in the league that are better than Sanheim. It’s not that long a list.
where do you see dvorak playing in this lineup?
August 22, 2025 at 3:03 pm #22583FlyerFrank
Participantwhere do you see dvorak playing in this lineup?
If you want the most talent in your top 9, he plays 3C behind Zegras and Couturier with Cates flipping to wing. I’d do that. Can’t say what Tocchet will do.
August 23, 2025 at 9:39 am #22682Flyers_01
ParticipantSize matters but exceptional players are exceptions. Is Bobby Brink an exceptional player? I don’t think he is. The center situation is a little better this year and a man deeper with Luchanko if he can pull it off. If not, they might have to scramble at 4C if there’s a long injury or Tocchet just wants to work both Cates and Dvorak into the top 9. If Zegras gets back to a .7 or so PPG level, he’s your number one center. I think he can do a little better. The D still needs work. There are only so many guys in the league that are better than Sanheim. It’s not that long a list.
I highly doubt Brink is going to be an exceptional player. He’s also 5’8″. Buium (6′, 185), who you discount based on size/weight is not small by any measure. He is the same size/weight as other cup winning defensemen such as Makar and appears to have the traits and resume of an exceptional future player, Jett does not. Jett, who is smaller (5’11”) and lighter (180) has the resume a “born to be a flyer” player. Oh no, he fails every metric you declared for being hard to play against and yet you ignore it.
August 23, 2025 at 11:45 am #22686FlyerFrank
ParticipantI highly doubt Brink is going to be an exceptional player. He’s also 5’8″. Buium (6′, 185), who you discount based on size/weight is not small by any measure. He is the same size/weight as other cup winning defensemen such as Makar and appears to have the traits and resume of an exceptional future player, Jett does not. Jett, who is smaller (5’11”) and lighter (180) has the resume a “born to be a flyer” player. Oh no, he fails every metric you declared for being hard to play against and yet you ignore it.
Hahahaha! I’m not discounting Buium. He may prove to be a great fit in MIN but you’re trashing the team over them selecting Luchanko over Buium when neither has proved anything in the pros . .. oh wait, Luchanko was pretty good in the playoffs for LHV. They were both drafted high enough, they should both have a 90% chance of being NHL regulars. We already have the Buium type Dman here and I would rather have a center than a duplicate of that. This is not complicated.
August 23, 2025 at 12:21 pm #22690yes its me 2050
ParticipantI highly doubt Brink is going to be an exceptional player. He’s also 5’8″. Buium (6′, 185), who you discount based on size/weight is not small by any measure. He is the same size/weight as other cup winning defensemen such as Makar and appears to have the traits and resume of an exceptional future player, Jett does not. Jett, who is smaller (5’11”) and lighter (180) has the resume a “born to be a flyer” player. Oh no, he fails every metric you declared for being hard to play against and yet you ignore it.
Hahahaha! I’m not discounting Buium. He may prove to be a great fit in MIN but you’re trashing the team over them selecting Luchanko over Buium when neither has proved anything in the pros . .. oh wait, Luchanko was pretty good in the playoffs for LHV. They were both drafted high enough, they should both have a 90% chance of being NHL regulars. We already have the Buium type Dman here and I would rather have a center than a duplicate of that. This is not complicated.
meanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.
no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.
August 23, 2025 at 12:31 pm #22695FlyerFrank
Participantmeanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.
no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.
He got into 4 out of 6 games and was a minus player in a losing effort to Vegas. I’m not trashing the guy. He’ll be an NHL regular. Luchanko had 6 points in 7 AHL playoff games. Of course, just a reminder, the Flyers didn’t make the NHL playoffs.
August 23, 2025 at 12:47 pm #22699yes its me 2050
Participantmeanwhile Buium was playing in the NHL playoffs.
no they do not have a buium type player on the roster or system.
He got into 4 out of 6 games and was a minus player in a losing effort to Vegas. I’m not trashing the guy. He’ll be an NHL regular. Luchanko had 6 points in 7 AHL playoff games. Of course, just a reminder, the Flyers didn’t make the NHL playoffs.
nhl playoffs > ahl playoffs. no matter what spin you try to put on it
August 23, 2025 at 12:51 pm #22701FlyerFrank
Participantnhl playoffs > ahl playoffs. no matter what spin you try to put on it
Really??!! Shocking. Less than a month and we’ll see some pre-season games see how the team shakes out. You should be able to watch most Wild games on the NHL Network. Enjoy!
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