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  • #43973
    Flyers4Ever
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    Marner had more career playoff points than Tavares, Matthews and Nylander. Marner would play against Florida’s #1 line and keep them in check. He kills penalties. He ran the PP (which has not turned to shit). He contributed to 3 GWGs vs Florida. He was perfectly fine being one of the main, core guys with big responsibility. The problem was the garbage that filled the rest of the roster. The Leafs refused to get rid of the garbage like Tavares, Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and refused to pay and retain an elite, two-way player then elected to replace him with 3rd and 4th liners. It won’t end well for the Leafs as this team is worse and won’t be getting better.

    He’s probably gonna win a cup, and win the Conn Smythe, in Vegas his first year and rub Leafs fans and management’s noses in it so bad! 😂

    #43972
    Dozzer
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    Yeah, I fully get the intense media in Toronto when it comes to the Leafs. If you’re mentally weak at all, it’ll become an issue for you. My only counterpoint is, if the team was better constructed with depth and talent, as in not so top heavy, I don’t think the attention would be there, all on one player. Marner had 383 points in 302 games over the past four seasons, he also had 38 points in 38 playoff games, so he was earning his money. But he’s more of a complimentary player, he’s not gonna drive the bus in the playoffs, he’s gonna matter, but he’s not that type of guy to drive the bus all by himself, at least in my opinion, that’s on Leafs management for those expectations.

    For years I’ve heard Shanny didn’t build a deep enough team for the playoffs, they’re a fun dynamic offensive team in the regular season, but they were never going to find success in the playoffs with their top heavy roster and their style of play. And that pretty much played out over the past seven years, where they got past the 1st round once. On top of that, I don’t think they’re better this year than they were last year, which is a problem, for y’all.

    Sadly when it came to Marner his talent was never the question, it was the fits he had from time to time, had them in junior as well, but London is in SW Ontario too… same BS for teens but thankfully not as intense.

    And yeah, The Leafs were built without any space to adapt the cap lockdown due to Covid, JT’s contract always seemed high because of that. Long term contracts of stars always seem high the first couple of years, then decent the next 3, then reasonable for the last couple. The lockdown left him high for the first 4 and then decent for the last 3, which always felt high. They needed to give up Mitch or Matthews sadly to balance things back out and the current GM and coach prefer Matthews. Anyone who thinks Nylander or Marner is loonie, Marner would have cost close to $4 mill more in Ontario than Willie so no, it wasn’t him.

    #43968
    Unholy_Goalie
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    It was as you say “dog poop” even when Marner was on the Leafs PP.
    No argument out me regarding Marc Savard.

    It was dog shit because of Savard and because they had to run 5 forwards on the PP because Rielly was and still is trash on the PP, not because of Marner.

    Marner had 228 powerplay points (23 playoff PP points, #1 among all Leafs during that time) in all his years in Toronto, #1, more than Nylander and Matthews, so no, if the PP was shit it wasn’t because the #1 PP producer was shit.

    #43964
    dmnted
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    The PP started the same way last year, then, they picked it up.

    time to pickup the PP with Keefe in town.

    The PP is dog shit because Marc Savard is an idiot who has no idea how to run a PP. They also lost Marner and replaced him with dog shit. The PP will continue to be shit especially in the playoffs.

    It was as you say “dog poop” even when Marner was on the Leafs PP.
    No argument out me regarding Marc Savard.

    #43962
    Unholy_Goalie
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    The PP started the same way last year, then, they picked it up.

    time to pickup the PP with Keefe in town.

    The PP is dog shit because Marc Savard is an idiot who has no idea how to run a PP. They also lost Marner and replaced him with dog shit. The PP will continue to be shit especially in the playoffs.

    #43961
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Marner will be a good/important player on a team where all the focus isn’t on a group of four players to sink or die with. Vegas epitomizes a deep, balanced, big, heavy, experienced, team where everyone is a contributor and their systems play is more important than being carried by a small group of players. Just my outside opinion looking in.

    Marner had more career playoff points than Tavares, Matthews and Nylander. Marner would play against Florida’s #1 line and keep them in check. He kills penalties. He ran the PP (which has not turned to shit). He contributed to 3 GWGs vs Florida. He was perfectly fine being one of the main, core guys with big responsibility. The problem was the garbage that filled the rest of the roster. The Leafs refused to get rid of the garbage like Tavares, Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and refused to pay and retain an elite, two-way player then elected to replace him with 3rd and 4th liners. It won’t end well for the Leafs as this team is worse and won’t be getting better.

    #43957
    Unholy_Goalie
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    based on your super accurate loser predictions so far, this has me hopeful

    Keep those hopes sky high, it’ll be easier to see Ohtani and Teoscar Hernández’s moonshots from there.

    #43954
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Why are we still talking about the player that didn’t want to be in Toronto, and couldn’t handle the pressure of it?

    BTW, Willy has more points in less games, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.

    Nylander played so shit to start the season Berube called him out but you’re going to pretend that never happened. Nylander’s points don’t matter, he sucks balls defensively and has cost the team points. That’ll only get worse in the playoffs. Marner was happy to stay in Toronto, it was the idiot fans and moron management that ran him out of town. You’ll learn the hard way, like you did with Kadri, what happens when this story ends.

    #43952
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Best case scenario, lose in 5, eh, UG? GFY, wrong again.

    Check out this loser. suck it d bag
    Go Jays!

    Living rent free in both your heads. The Jays were saved by Springer from the typical Game 7 disaster that haunts Toronto teams. Good for him. Great for the Jays. They overachieved this year and worked their way to the World Series. But now they play a team that would have to throw their season away to lose. The Dodgers are stacked. Ohtani is their #4 pitcher at this point. It’s going to be a miracle to beat the Dodgers. Their pitching is dominant top to bottom and they have the best player of a century. Oh, and of course, in typical Toronto sports fashion, they have a former Blue Jay, Teoscar Hernández, who will probably beat the brakes off them because that’s how Toronto teams roll. I’m sure there will be a lot of butt hurt fans that Ohtani is rolling into town, still angry he didn’t sign in Toronto, but he didn’t even have to play well to beat the Brewers. And they still swept the Brewers. Jays lost 3 games to the Mariners and narrowly got out of Game 7. Dodgers shouldn’t have much trouble at all.

    As before, I’d be happy to see the Jays overcome the odds but this is probably where their run ends.

    #43944
    Big23Questions
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    Why are we still talking about the player that didn’t want to be in Toronto, and couldn’t handle the pressure of it? [/quote]

    Says the guy with a avatar trolling Marner. LMFAO. What a self own.

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