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Yeah, I fully get the intense media in Toronto when it comes to the Leafs. If you’re mentally weak at all, it’ll become an issue for you. My only counterpoint is, if the team was better constructed with depth and talent, as in not so top heavy, I don’t think the attention would be there, all on one player. Marner had 383 points in 302 games over the past four seasons, he also had 38 points in 38 playoff games, so he was earning his money. But he’s more of a complimentary player, he’s not gonna drive the bus in the playoffs, he’s gonna matter, but he’s not that type of guy to drive the bus all by himself, at least in my opinion, that’s on Leafs management for those expectations.
For years I’ve heard Shanny didn’t build a deep enough team for the playoffs, they’re a fun dynamic offensive team in the regular season, but they were never going to find success in the playoffs with their top heavy roster and their style of play. And that pretty much played out over the past seven years, where they got past the 1st round once. On top of that, I don’t think they’re better this year than they were last year, which is a problem, for y’all.[/quote]
that’s going to set off some of the fan base. he he
Marner will be a good/important player on a team where all the focus isn’t on a group of four players to sink or die with. Vegas epitomizes a deep, balanced, big, heavy, experienced, team where everyone is a contributor and their systems play is more important than being carried by a small group of players. Just my outside opinion looking in.
Listen I will happily give Marner the credit he deserves. He’s a fantastic passer, he’s great defensively, and he reads the ice really really well. I live in London so I remember him in the OHL playing for The Knights. His speed and shot are decent but not great but nothing to frown against either. The only thing I never really liked about him is that he emotionally broke down routinely. So for him I think not playing hockey in southern Ontario is the best move since it’s non stop attention from the media and fanbase here. Look at the broadcast this past Saturday night, the next game had started yet they still were focused on the leafs drama during the intermissions, it’s absurd. Some players have no interest to play for a Canadian team, especially Toronto, for this kind of reason.
I mean look at this. If Marner was bumped down to the second line in Toronto the media and fanbase would explode even if it was a perfect fit (his production has shot up since it has happened) whereas in Vegas they speak positively about it. Some players just don’t have the mental ability to handle the crazy Toronto atmosphere and wouldn’t be shocked if Marner is one of them.
Be careful saying this for instance… congrats to JT for becoming just the 4th player in history to get to 500P for 2 different teams however it’s a pretty safe bet Marner is going to make that list now too. (Waits for arguments against that point of view lol)
Yeah, I fully get the intense media in Toronto when it comes to the Leafs. If you’re mentally weak at all, it’ll become an issue for you. My only counterpoint is, if the team was better constructed with depth and talent, as in not so top heavy, I don’t think the attention would be there, all on one player. Marner had 383 points in 302 games over the past four seasons, he also had 38 points in 38 playoff games, so he was earning his money. But he’s more of a complimentary player, he’s not gonna drive the bus in the playoffs, he’s gonna matter, but he’s not that type of guy to drive the bus all by himself, at least in my opinion, that’s on Leafs management for those expectations.
For years I’ve heard Shanny didn’t build a deep enough team for the playoffs, they’re a fun dynamic offensive team in the regular season, but they were never going to find success in the playoffs with their top heavy roster and their style of play. And that pretty much played out over the past seven years, where they got past the 1st round once. On top of that, I don’t think they’re better this year than they were last year, which is a problem, for y’all.
Marner will be a good/important player on a team where all the focus isn’t on a group of four players to sink or die with. Vegas epitomizes a deep, balanced, big, heavy, experienced, team where everyone is a contributor and their systems play is more important than being carried by a small group of players. Just my outside opinion looking in.
Listen I will happily give Marner the credit he deserves. He’s a fantastic passer, he’s great defensively, and he reads the ice really really well. I live in London so I remember him in the OHL playing for The Knights. His speed and shot are decent but not great but nothing to frown against either. The only thing I never really liked about him is that he emotionally broke down routinely. So for him I think not playing hockey in southern Ontario is the best move since it’s non stop attention from the media and fanbase here. Look at the broadcast this past Saturday night, the next game had started yet they still were focused on the leafs drama during the intermissions, it’s absurd. Some players have no interest to play for a Canadian team, especially Toronto, for this kind of reason.
I mean look at this. If Marner was bumped down to the second line in Toronto the media and fanbase would explode even if it was a perfect fit (his production has shot up since it has happened) whereas in Vegas they speak positively about it. Some players just don’t have the mental ability to handle the crazy Toronto atmosphere and wouldn’t be shocked if Marner is one of them.
Be careful saying this for instance… congrats to JT for becoming just the 4th player in history to get to 500P for 2 different teams however it’s a pretty safe bet Marner is going to make that list now too. (Waits for arguments against that point of view lol)
On another site I started chatting on a bit I saw a knights fan mention how he likes Marner because he’s a lot like Marchessault, the position that Marner has essentially taken over which has been a gap since Marchessault left for Nashville. I didn’t say anything because why would I but I looked some stuff up, yup, Marner is 0.3PPG more (averaging about an extra 25P) but he also costs $6.5 million more a year lol.
I get it now though, Marchessault is essentially JT’s age but it still made me smile. Vegas fans are already associating Marner to a 2nd line winger that cost half his price, they don’t do it out of anger, but they don’t think much of his game other than his offensive skill set.
Marner will be a good/important player on a team where all the focus isn’t on a group of four players to sink or die with. Vegas epitomizes a deep, balanced, big, heavy, experienced, team where everyone is a contributor and their systems play is more important than being carried by a small group of players. Just my outside opinion looking in.
Why are we still talking about the player that didn’t want to be in Toronto, and couldn’t handle the pressure of it?
BTW, Willy has more points in less games, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.
On another site I started chatting on a bit I saw a knights fan mention how he likes Marner because he’s a lot like Marchessault, the position that Marner has essentially taken over which has been a gap since Marchessault left for Nashville. I didn’t say anything because why would I but I looked some stuff up, yup, Marner is 0.3PPG more (averaging about an extra 25P) but he also costs $6.5 million more a year lol.
I get it now though, Marchessault is essentially JT’s age but it still made me smile. Vegas fans are already associating Marner to a 2nd line winger that cost half his price, they don’t do it out of anger, but they don’t think much of his game other than his offensive skill set.
Marner, 2 more assists, beat the Hurricanes 4-1 with their top goalie injured, Vegas #1 team in the NHL, off to a white hot start.
Why are we still talking about the player that didn’t want to be in Toronto, and couldn’t handle the pressure of it?
BTW, Willy has more points in less games, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.
Whipper, why don’t you cheer for the Flames anymore? Did you move to Ontario in the past decade?
Even strength numbers not too bad for Leafers. 15GF 12GA. Better offensively then I expected so far.
PP needs to pick it up. 2/14 with a shorty against sucks. Last in PP opportunities per game ..and second last in PP results (next to the Oilers? WTF).
The PP started the same way last year, then, they picked it up.
time to pickup the PP with Keefe in town.
Marner, 2 more assists, beat the Hurricanes 4-1 with their top goalie injured, Vegas #1 team in the NHL, off to a white hot start.
Why are we still talking about the player that didn’t want to be in Toronto, and couldn’t handle the pressure of it?
BTW, Willy has more points in less games, but that doesn’t fit your narrative.
UG does hold Nylander to high standards cause he like him. Just like how he like Marner with those same standards. 👍
Even strength numbers not too bad for Leafers. 15GF 12GA. Better offensively then I expected so far.
PP needs to pick it up. 2/14 with a shorty against sucks. Last in PP opportunities per game ..and second last in PP results (next to the Oilers? WTF).
Good for the Jays, they dug deep and they earned it. Now the Dodgers win.
based on your super accurate loser predictions so far, this has me hopeful
