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SEA wanted either Wallinder (11th overall in 2023) or (Buium 12th overall in 2024) for Wright. VAN told them to kick rocks. I think Schneider 1 for 1 could be accepted by SEA but I guess it would depend how SEA views him. I wouldn’t feel comfortable adding anything though.
Kreider Trouba Kakko Trocheck Panarin
Greentree Vakaneinen Beoudoin Borgen Terrance Durzi
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SEA 3rd and 6th
ANA 3rd
UTAH 3rd
LAK 3rd and 4thLost
4th to ANAThis is absolutely ATROCIOUS
No pressure? Trouba looked like a parking cone against the Panthers in the ECF and most other nights. A captain who lost his room.
Trouba was hurt in those playoffs, I think an ankle, funny though, he played ok versus the Oilers and Knights averaging over 23 minutes a game!! Sounds like someone who is washed up and isnt worth anything
Trouba didnt lose the room, he was what brought them together, remember after the fight and helmet toss, the Rangers went on a tear!! After he left, the team hasnt made the playoffs since.
As far as KK, he was hurt most of last season, so im giving him a little more time and to see.
Thats Drury the genius plan, trade assets, get nothing back and lose!! Great plan.
Trouba played well in ANA and just got signed to a $8+ million a year contract. He has value. The system was garbage and most of our D struggled with it.
Kakko was never given the chance. All other 1st and 2nd OA picks get PP time and ice time. We buried him on the 3rd line with no PP time and 10 minutes a game and then wondered why he never developed.
No pressure? Trouba looked like a parking cone against the Panthers in the ECF and most other nights. A captain who lost his room. He signed an $8M deal with the Sharks. They also traded for Darnell Nurse and signed Libor Hijek. Yeah, Mike Grier is the GM we should be comparing Drury to LOL. And using that same logic…someone traded for Patterson the year before the Rangers did. So obviously he is worth more than what people seem to think.
Kakko is not good. Period end of story. He went to the Kraken, and nothing changed. He doesn’t get PP time because he doesn’t deserve it. Not because “he never had a chance here.” He is a 40 point player. Nothing wrong with it, but let’s not act like he is God’s gift to the NHL.
Kakko and Trouba had zero value. Maybe negative value. They were both terrible and NYR fans couldnt wait to drive them to the airport.
I disagree with you on this. There was no pressure to trade either except in Drurys small mind. KK never had the chance here, third line minutes, no PP time and Trouba was hurt. When trading assets you need to get some assets back. Borgen was a waste and Trouba just signed another 8m per contract so someone thinks Trouba was worth something.
Kakko and Trouba had zero value. Maybe negative value. They were both terrible and NYR fans couldnt wait to drive them to the airport.
“Trocheck is on one of the best contracts in the entire league and top 5 faceoff guy with a solid 2 way game that is one of the best on the PK.” Other than the salary, you’re describing a third liner. Again, if Drury paid a first, a former first, and a top 4 D man for a 32 year old who is good on draws, people would lose their minds. And rightfully so.
It is agreed that the Nemeth deal wasn’t good. It is what it is though at this point. Don’t think its so egregious that it needs to be brought up all the time. Does Drury getting a first and another pick for Lundqvist get brought up as a great move over and over again? That guy stinks and we made out like bandits. Getting a 2nd and 3rd for Borgen was solid too IMO. Recoup some of those picks that were traded away for Nemeth.
Context behind last seasons finish matters. Fox & Igor were hurt for a huge part of last season. They didn’t have their top goal scorer for half their season which they will now have a replacement in Doro. And yeah, if the team is bad and there’s no point in keeping Patterson, he can likely be moved for good value to a contender at the TDL. If Kreider can fetch a first in your eyes, so can Patterson. Patterson has been traded twice for first round picks, Kreider hasn’t.
There’s a right time to get a 25 year old nearly 40 goal scorer?? You want to talk about a dumb take. This organization isn’t going to just mail in a season before it starts. It’s the New York Rangers, and they already tried the rebuild. They want to show their fans & players that they are committed to competing. Not go into a season with no goal scorer, 20M+ in cap space, and essentially admitting they’re tanking.
By announcing to the entire league Panarin was gone no matter what, Drury diminished his value, same goes for Trocheck Kreider Kakko and Trouba.
The return for Trocheck should’ve been the prospect, a 1st and Durzi. Durzi has missed 70+ games the last 2 seasons due to injury. Far from a slam dunk. The prospect isn’t even a top 3 prospect in Utah’s system.
Trocheck is on one of the best contracts in the entire league and top 5 faceoff guy with a solid 2 way game that is one of the best on the PK. Drury failed yet again by showing his hand.
The Nemeth trade was a disaster. No one would ever say the 35th and 43rd pick is a good deal for dumping a contract DRURY signed the player to a year before.
I’ve seen numerous blogs, people talk about (maybe not on here bc there’s no one left on here) talk about recouping the pick down the road if it doesn’t work out for Petterson. You don’t trade future 1sts when you just finished bottom 3 in the league and dead last in the East.
The Doro trade wasn’t the right time. Same goes for Miller. This team needed a rebuild, not a retool and I’d much rather have Nesbitt in the system over JT Miller on the decline at 33 years old. I’m thinking long term, not fighting for a wild card spot this year and HOPING things work out. Drury put us in this mess and he’s compounded it and hurt the future of this team.
You are arguing that the Rangers should have gotten a ’24 first, an additional first, Durzi, and a third for a 32 year old coming off a 50 point season?? Imagine if Drury traded for someone like that and gave up that package. You would be up in arms.
I think its unrealistic to expect every single trade to be a home run win. The trade for Trocheck is fair value. And Panarin had a full NMC, so the return was always going to be limited. It’s easy to play Monday morning quarterback. If we are going to harp on every single trade that didnt work out, we also have to give credit to all the solid trades. Trading for Doro, the Vatrano & Copp moves were great at the time, getting a 1st and a 4th for Nils Lundqvist who is/was ass was a great move and is hardly spoken of.
JT Miller has had a 100+ point season and a 99 point season within the last 5 years. I’d rather take that over Nesbitt who hasnt played a single NHL game at this time despite your bias against JT.
Also, no one said we would recoup a first in a few years by trading Patterson? You’re making things up and saying dumb argument when no one mentioned that. Also, the Canucks traded a first for Petterson in 2025, so Drury isn’t the only one who thinks that’s his value.
You know what’s funny about the Nemeth trade (that was 4 years ago and the team was a contender at the time)? What harm did it do us? Oh no, we didnt get to select Max Psenicka (one of the picks used). Context is important, and I think most GM’s would be willing to give up 2 non first round picks to add depth to a contending team. I’ll agree that Nemeth was awful and didn’t add anything of value, but thats a different story lol.
We don’t have to change each others opinions on Drury, but I just don’t think its as bad as its made out to be. The Rangers are ranked middle of the pack in prospects (16th) while also being ranked 6th in average age (https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/nhl/teams-physical-stats). We have some great young talent on this team already that should be fun to watch develop. And plenty knocking on the door like Smits, Fortescue, Emery, Rooberick, Beaudoin, Greentree, Spence. Could it be better? Sure….but it could also be worse.
Nooo, see you’re twisting words. I’m not saying don’t get prospects. I’m saying the trades need to also involve a 1st round pick.
I also don’t care about the 26th pick we traded, it’s ok to trade picks, but Drury wastes picks and makes terrible decisions.
What would you rather right now, JT Miller or Jack Nesbitt?
Trading a 1st round pick 4 years from now???? Last time we did that we gave up the 35th and 43rd picks in 2025 and 2026 for someone to take Nemeth. Bc I’m sure at the time of the trade the genius Drury thought we’d be cup contenders. It’s dumb to trade picks that’s far into the future, especially 1sts.
The argument that 4 years from now we’ll get a 1st back for Petterson? It’ll be to a playoff contender and end up 20+. Dumb argument.
The 2nd pair has a guy in Durzi who has missed 70+ games the last 2 seasons and a 30 year old Petterson that’s only here bc Sullivan likes him. (Who I’m also not a fan of).
