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Flip Gilmour for Marner in that pic and I have a pretty good feeling Doug wouldn’t just be standing there lol[/quote]
I agree.
But do we have the full video of what happened? Taking a still photo out of video can certainly change the context.
I seem to recall this when it occurred, the still looks bad, but the video isnt as bad cause I think he gets involved either earlier or later.
Or I could be wrong and thinking of something else.There is nothing about Marner that reminds me of Gilmour. DG was all heart and lots of times willed the Leafs to playoffs wins. Marner shits the bed and cries cuz he didnt get his way
I agree.
But do we have the full video of what happened? Taking a still photo out of video can certainly change the context.
I seem to recall this when it occurred, the still looks bad, but the video isnt as bad cause I think he gets involved either earlier or later.
Or I could be wrong and thinking of something else.Who gives a rats ass? Marner is a wimp, Gilmour was not. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a flat out lunatic. They aren’t even close to being the same player.
As for Thrun exactly, if he clears waivers he’ll be a no cap hit RFA d man playing for the Marlies, this year is likely nothing more than seeing how he’ll do in their system before they decide if they’re even going to resign him.
There is nothing about Marner that reminds me of Gilmour. DG was all heart and lots of times willed the Leafs to playoffs wins. Marner shits the bed and cries cuz he didnt get his way
I wouldn’t say there’s nothing that reminds me of Gilmour in Marner. They’re from Ontario…they played for the Leafs…they’re 5’11…both went with a shortened version of their legal names…both were alleged to have sexually assaulted a minor…err not that one.
deo of what happened? Taking a still photo out of video can certainly change the context.
I seem to recall this when it occurred, the still looks bad, but the video isnt as bad cause I think he gets involved either earlier or later.
Or I could be wrong and thinking of something else.Full video.
You can see Marner tie up a guy for a brief moment when it’s pushing and shoving but the minute it gets nasty and punches start getting tossed and Tampa goes full dog pile on the Leafs. At this point Marner shits his pants, and decides to let his guy go and then his next move is to complain to the linesman.
He is the furthest thing from Doug Gilmour you will see in those moments over the past 9 years – what you saw here is who he is.
Who gives a rats ass? Marner is a wimp, Gilmour was not. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a flat out lunatic. They aren’t even close to being the same player.
As for Thrun exactly, if he clears waivers he’ll be a no cap hit RFA d man playing for the Marlies, this year is likely nothing more than seeing how he’ll do in their system before they decide if they’re even going to resign him.[/quote]
Im not saying marner is similar to gilmour or vice versa. Ive never thought that.
Just saying that the pic may be out of context. I recall one similar pic floating around HB that looked like marner was doing nothing in scrum, but in the full video it shows that he actually did do something.
I cant remember if this is the one or not.Im not saying marner is similar to gilmour or vice versa. Ive never thought that.
Just saying that the pic may be out of context. I recall one similar pic floating around HB that looked like marner was doing nothing in scrum, but in the full video it shows that he actually did do something.
I cant remember if this is the one or not.Cush posted the video, he started “tied up” but once the fight actually started he let go and went and whined to the ref.
It’s who he is, and it’s who he has always been. Just a full grown spoiled kid.
Full video.
You can see Marner tie up a guy for a brief moment when it’s pushing and shoving but the minute it gets nasty and punches start getting tossed and Tampa goes full dog pile on the Leafs. At this point Marner shits his pants, and decides to let his guy go and then his next move is to complain to the linesman.
He is the furthest thing from Doug Gilmour you will see in those moments over the past 9 years – what you saw here is who he is.[/quote]
Thanks for the vid.
Ya marner was never ever compared to Gilmour, so not sure where that came up…UG?
Thats a foolish thing to say.
But in the vid, he ties up man, things break off and teams are about to go back to the benches, then 4 fights break out….but there isnt a 5th person involved for marner to grab….the 5th lightning is off to the side. Those fights subside and surgachev and marner get into and Schenn jumps in. Marner’s not fighter…never was. Could he have been a little more involved there, sure. Its not like he did nothing, like the out of context still was trying to show.Anywho, marner is gone, the leafs will miss him during the reg season and the first 4 games of a playoff round…saying otherwise is kinda foolish imo.
But the leafs never made it past the 2nd round with him, matthews, nylander and JT. Time for a change. Saying the leafs will die without him is also kinda foolish imo.
Will things be worse, better? Dunno, we’ll see. Gotta wait 10 months to see how they play in the playoffsAnd it may even take more than one off season to improve the overall line up.
I forgot about Mermis. Of course it’s sort of easy to given that he’s 31 and has 78 career NHL games.
Obviously not sure, but I’m thinking depth-wise, the Leafs have
RHD
Tanev
Carlo
Ekman-Larsson
Myers
Benning <– almost forgot about him
RifaiLHD
Rielly
McCabe
Benoit
Thrun
Mermis
WebberOEL is not a RHD. He’s a LHD who plays on the right side. And poorly. He shouldn’t be on the right side except if it’s on the PP. The Leafs knew this which is why they signed Hak but that didn’t pan out.
The Leafs RHD situation, as always, is poor. Tanev is 35+ and on a Cup winner, he’s a great 2nd pair guy. But he’s not Seth Jones. Not even close. Carlo, when Boston was great, was on the 3rd pair. It’s a shame he plays such a timid game for his size because he could be a force if he played with snarl. But he doesn’t. It’s a big problem made even bigger with the fact that Rielly is a pylon defensively.
This Leafs blueline may have already peaked last year because it’s going to be very old and very bad, very soon with next to nothing in the pipeline to make that better. By time Danford is in the NHL full time, half the guys on our blueline will be retired or on Robidas Island.
Right. OEL is an LHD – and his best results were on the left-side. Benoit being left-handed and having his best results on the right-side is just one of those things.
In terms of Carlo – in 2022-23 the Boston Bruins had the 4th best points percentage of any team in NHL history. Carlo was principally paired with Lindholm in 2nd pair duties; he was very effective. That same pairing was the Bruins best pairing in the playoffs against Florida. He is a perfectly fine top-4 defenseman and has proven so on one of the best teams in over a century. His 5v5 ice time was lower than some of the other pairings but he led the team in penalty killing ice time so his distribution was affected that way.
You can’t really compare Jones to Carlo – they play entirely different roles. Jones had an effective playoff paired with Mikkola. Mikkola gave Jones freedom and he was good with that room – but don’t start thinking Jones is a defensive stalwart. He had a good couple of months playing beside a monster of a man who was allowed, because of the NHL playoffs, to commit a lot more infractions than would normally be tolerated. Jones did excel in his minutes and I won’t take that away from him, but in the regular season with Florida where the rules are just called normally, Jones was really mediocre – which is where he’s been for the past several seasons.
Carlo’s role is to provide a similar amount of freedom to his partner – who is unfortunately Rielly. I’ll agree that Carlo isn’t nasty enough but he uses size effectively down low and Rielly both didn’t do enough to make use of that freedom afforded to him nor did he do anything to contribute to the defensive requirements of his pairing. He had an awful and an awful second round against Florida.
Thanks for the vid.
Ya marner was never ever compared to Gilmour, so not sure where that came up…UG?
Thats a foolish thing to say.
But in the vid, he ties up man, things break off and teams are about to go back to the benches, then 4 fights break out….but there isnt a 5th person involved for marner to grab….the 5th lightning is off to the side. Those fights subside and surgachev and marner get into and Schenn jumps in. Marner’s not fighter…never was. Could he have been a little more involved there, sure. Its not like he did nothing, like the out of context still was trying to show.Anywho, marner is gone, the leafs will miss him during the reg season and the first 4 games of a playoff round…saying otherwise is kinda foolish imo.
But the leafs never made it past the 2nd round with him, matthews, nylander and JT. Time for a change. Saying the leafs will die without him is also kinda foolish imo.
Will things be worse, better? Dunno, we’ll see. Gotta wait 10 months to see how they play in the playoffsAnd it may even take more than one off season to improve the overall line up.
Actually, the Gilmour thing came from the bitchy Dozzer who said Marner would have got his ass kicked in that locker room but then get wrecked by the truth when Wendel Clark said Marner reminded him of Gilmour.
The video clearly shows that Marner wasn’t just standing there the entire time. It’s taken out of context which is what bitches with a vendetta do because they’re a brain damaged coward.
Marner tied a guy up, the scrum settled, Point went off the ice injured and then re-ignited afterwards. If Marner had jumped anybody who was already dancing with somebody else, he gets an extra penalty and that’d be something for the bitches to cry about that Marner took a penalty in the playoffs.
Team will definitely be worse.
Actually, the Gilmour thing came from the bitchy Dozzer who said Marner would have got his ass kicked in that locker room but then get wrecked by the truth when Wendel Clark said Marner reminded him of Gilmour.
The video clearly shows that Marner wasn’t just standing there the entire time. It’s taken out of context which is what bitches with a vendetta do because they’re a brain damaged coward.
Marner tied a guy up, the scrum settled, Point went off the ice injured and then re-ignited afterwards. If Marner had jumped anybody who was already dancing with somebody else, he gets an extra penalty and that’d be something for the bitches to cry about that Marner took a penalty in the playoffs.
Team will definitely be worse.
lol he let go of the guy to let him go fight someone else.
Can’t wait til the Americans realize what a soft piece of shit he is lol.
Right. OEL is an LHD – and his best results were on the left-side. Benoit being left-handed and having his best results on the right-side is just one of those things.
In terms of Carlo – in 2022-23 the Boston Bruins had the 4th best points percentage of any team in NHL history. Carlo was principally paired with Lindholm in 2nd pair duties; he was very effective. That same pairing was the Bruins best pairing in the playoffs against Florida. He is a perfectly fine top-4 defenseman and has proven so on one of the best teams in over a century. His 5v5 ice time was lower than some of the other pairings but he led the team in penalty killing ice time so his distribution was affected that way.
You can’t really compare Jones to Carlo – they play entirely different roles. Jones had an effective playoff paired with Mikkola. Mikkola gave Jones freedom and he was good with that room – but don’t start thinking Jones is a defensive stalwart. He had a good couple of months playing beside a monster of a man who was allowed, because of the NHL playoffs, to commit a lot more infractions than would normally be tolerated. Jones did excel in his minutes and I won’t take that away from him, but in the regular season with Florida where the rules are just called normally, Jones was really mediocre – which is where he’s been for the past several seasons.
Carlo’s role is to provide a similar amount of freedom to his partner – who is unfortunately Rielly. I’ll agree that Carlo isn’t nasty enough but he uses size effectively down low and Rielly both didn’t do enough to make use of that freedom afforded to him nor did he do anything to contribute to the defensive requirements of his pairing. He had an awful and an awful second round against Florida.
It’s usually best to keep the LHD on the left and the RHD on the right, except in rare situations like the PP.
I was saying Tanev is not Seth Jones, not Carlo. But you’re right, neither is like Jones. Jones could take over a game. He did more than once against the Leafs. The Leafs don’t have that, on the left or the right. They just have Rielly who does have tremendous playoff puck luck offensively but terrible defensively. And year after year, it’s cost them in the playoffs.
And yes, in Boston, the way they play hockey, Carlo benefited. I don’t see the Leafs playing that same style that would benefit him as much for the Leafs. Neither one of them played very well against Florida and that’s part of the problem when you look at the Leafs team. You have to consider that they will be the team to beat for the next 1-3 years. And Tampa Bay isn’t completely gone away either. I don’t see either Tanev or Carlo being strong enough without another strong RHD to balance the work load.
lol he let go of the guy to let him go fight someone else.
Can’t wait til the Americans realize what a soft piece of shit he is lol.
Just like you couldn’t wait for Colorado to realize Kadri takes too many suspensions and will never win a Cup in Colorado.
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Just like you couldn’t wait for Colorado to realize Kadri takes too many suspensions and will never win a Cup in Colorado.
Oh right, and Kadri was the core player of that team lol
Oh right, and Kadri was the core player of that team lol
Oh right, Kerfoot and Barrie were co-Conn Smythe winners when the Leafs won the Cup.
Just like Roy and Maccelli will be when they win it this year.
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