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  • #16625
    Fakepartofme
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    Just like you couldn’t wait for Colorado to realize Kadri takes too many suspensions and will never win a Cup in Colorado.

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    Are you gonna do the same for Bozak as well?
    Kadri and bozak werent part of the core….yes Kadri was a 2nd line center but he was behind guys like McK, Makar, Toews, Rant, Lehkonen, landeskog…maybe even nicbushkin.

    Neither were missing pieces to a leafs cup run.
    So enough with this BS.
    Vegas has already won a cup, and prior to Marner signing, already had a great team. Marner may win a cup on vegas…..we’ll see. But vegas already has a great team

    #16627
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Are you gonna do the same for Bozak as well?
    Kadri and bozak werent part of the core….yes Kadri was a 2nd line center but he was behind guys like McK, Makar, Toews, Rant, Lehkonen, landeskog…maybe even nicbushkin.

    Neither were missing pieces to a leafs cup run.
    So enough with this BS.
    Vegas has already won a cup, and prior to Marner signing, already had a great team. Marner may win a cup on vegas…..we’ll see. But vegas already has a great team

    You’re comparing apples to tire irons.

    Bozak left as a UFA for 5 AAV. Kadri was traded for garbage, stupidly, while he was still making 4.25. He was a bargain. On Colorado, he was on their 2nd line, point per game player in their Cup run with 2 GWG. He was always a playoff guy and the Leafs, who badly needed that, threw him away for a pile of dog shit. They spent the next 5 years trying to replace Kadri at the deadline by throwing away 1st round picks and prospects. Foligno, ROR, Laughton, etc. all to try and bring back what they gave away with Kadri. Same will now happen with Marner. They couldn’t replace Kadri. They have no hope in hell of replacing Marner.

    Vegas won the Cup and half their team is gone now. They haven’t won it in years. They’re contenders but they aren’t the Florida Panthers.

    #16629
    Dozzer
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    Oh right, Kerfoot and Barrie were co-Conn Smythe winners when the Leafs won the Cup.

    Just like Roy and Maccelli will be when they win it this year.

    Kadri isn’t worth much… he isn’t a top liner on a competitive team. The leafs also had JT and Matthews so Kadri was nothing more than a waste of space at C on the cap on a rebuilding team.

    Keep pouting.

    #16642
    Unholy_Goalie
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    Kadri isn’t worth much… he isn’t a top liner on a competitive team. The leafs also had JT and Matthews so Kadri was nothing more than a waste of space at C on the cap on a rebuilding team.

    Keep pouting.

    Not worth much, just a Cup playing on the 2nd line.

    Oh…they had JT?! Wow! He won them how many Cups as the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL to be a 2C?!

    And what are idiot Leafs fans so happy about now? Having a 2nd line 35 year old center who makes 4.4. Go figure.

    The Leafs had no playoff snarl and playoff scoring depth; the exact thing you bitch and moan about being the reason they don’t win in the playoffs. The exact reason you’re happy Marner is gone, so they can replace him with 8 goal, 18 point players.

    #16644
    senstrolltwo
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    if only Marner didnt block the Rantanen trade.

    #16645
    Unholy_Goalie
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    if only Marner didnt block the Rantanen trade.

    If only Leafs management wasn’t run by retards.

    #16656
    Dozzer
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    Not worth much, just a Cup playing on the 2nd line.

    Oh…they had JT?! Wow! He won them how many Cups as the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL to be a 2C?!

    And what are idiot Leafs fans so happy about now? Having a 2nd line 35 year old center who makes 4.4. Go figure.

    The Leafs had no playoff snarl and playoff scoring depth; the exact thing you bitch and moan about being the reason they don’t win in the playoffs. The exact reason you’re happy Marner is gone, so they can replace him with 8 goal, 18 point players.

    So you prefer Kadri over JT got ya, well the leafs didn’t and you can’t keep both when you have Matthews too.

    And you hate the new guy? What? You’re so shocking with your statements.

    #16704
    Unholy_Goalie
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    So you prefer Kadri over JT got ya, well the leafs didn’t and you can’t keep both when you have Matthews too.

    And you hate the new guy? What? You’re so shocking with your statements.

    Kadri at 4.25 AAV doesn’t destroy the Leafs cap situation like Tavares did. The Tavares signing guaranteed that Nylander, Matthews and Marner were all going to make more.

    If they had kept Kadri, the Leafs would have had plenty of cap space to fill out the blueline and the bottom-six. Considering Tavares has less career playoff points than Matthews, Marner and Nylander, that signing did absolutely fucking nothing to win the Cup. Just made it harder to compete for one.

    You irrationally love the new guy because he plays for the Leafs? Big shocker there homer pyle.

    #16706
    Dozzer
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    Kadri at 4.25 AAV doesn’t destroy the Leafs cap situation like Tavares did. The Tavares signing guaranteed that Nylander, Matthews and Marner were all going to make more.

    If they had kept Kadri, the Leafs would have had plenty of cap space to fill out the blueline and the bottom-six. Considering Tavares has less career playoff points than Matthews, Marner and Nylander, that signing did absolutely fucking nothing to win the Cup. Just made it harder to compete for one.

    You irrationally love the new guy because he plays for the Leafs? Big shocker there homer pyle.

    I would have kept Kadri too, he was a bit dirty back then but nothing a couple cheap vets could have kept away from the rookies I get it.

    But the leafs went with JT not Kadri so I moved on.

    Which is what you don’t do, you hang on to your bitterness with past moves you didn’t like so deeply that it’s unusual. Marner is the latest added to that list.

    #16717
    PrinceLH
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    It’s usually best to keep the LHD on the left and the RHD on the right, except in rare situations like the PP.

    I was saying Tanev is not Seth Jones, not Carlo. But you’re right, neither is like Jones. Jones could take over a game. He did more than once against the Leafs. The Leafs don’t have that, on the left or the right. They just have Rielly who does have tremendous playoff puck luck offensively but terrible defensively. And year after year, it’s cost them in the playoffs.

    I can agree with this. The Leafs do need another above average Right-handed defenseman. They keep floating Karlsson out there. If they’d take Rielly off of our hands and gave the Leafs $2M retained for the last 2 years of Karlsson, than go for that. It could also include other pieces, where Pittsburgh gets a player like McMann or Robertson and the Leafs get a second rounder, or a good 3rd line forward in return. Would Rielly like to play with Sid and Gino? Back with Dubas? Let’s see if that could play.

    #16724
    WHIPPER
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    It’s usually best to keep the LHD on the left and the RHD on the right, except in rare situations like the PP.

    I was saying Tanev is not Seth Jones, not Carlo. But you’re right, neither is like Jones. Jones could take over a game. He did more than once against the Leafs. The Leafs don’t have that, on the left or the right. They just have Rielly who does have tremendous playoff puck luck offensively but terrible defensively. And year after year, it’s cost them in the playoffs.

    I can agree with this. The Leafs do need another above average Right-handed defenseman. They keep floating Karlsson out there. If they’d take Rielly off of our hands and gave the Leafs $2M retained for the last 2 years of Karlsson, than go for that. It could also include other pieces, where Pittsburgh gets a player like McMann or Robertson and the Leafs get a second rounder, or a good 3rd line forward in return. Would Rielly like to play with Sid and Gino? Back with Dubas? Let’s see if that could play.

    Why would Pittsburgh take the worse player in the trade and then retain salary?!?!?!

    And why they hell would Rielly go to Pittsburgh?!?!

    #16725
    Dozzer
    Participant

    Why would Pittsburgh take the worse player in the trade and then retain salary?!?!?!

    And why they hell would Rielly go to Pittsburgh?!?!

    Cause Dubas will tell him his contract is justifiable?

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Dozzer.
    #16728
    Unholy_Goalie
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    It’s usually best to keep the LHD on the left and the RHD on the right, except in rare situations like the PP.

    I was saying Tanev is not Seth Jones, not Carlo. But you’re right, neither is like Jones. Jones could take over a game. He did more than once against the Leafs. The Leafs don’t have that, on the left or the right. They just have Rielly who does have tremendous playoff puck luck offensively but terrible defensively. And year after year, it’s cost them in the playoffs.

    I can agree with this. The Leafs do need another above average Right-handed defenseman. They keep floating Karlsson out there. If they’d take Rielly off of our hands and gave the Leafs $2M retained for the last 2 years of Karlsson, than go for that. It could also include other pieces, where Pittsburgh gets a player like McMann or Robertson and the Leafs get a second rounder, or a good 3rd line forward in return. Would Rielly like to play with Sid and Gino? Back with Dubas? Let’s see if that could play.

    Why would Pittsburgh take the worse player in the trade and then retain salary?!?!?!

    And why they hell would Rielly go to Pittsburgh?!?!

    Because, didn’t you know?! Everybody loves the Leafs! Especially jilted former GMs!

    #16743
    Fakepartofme
    Participant

    You’re comparing apples to tire irons.

    Bozak left as a UFA for 5 AAV. Kadri was traded for garbage, stupidly, while he was still making 4.25. He was a bargain. On Colorado, he was on their 2nd line, point per game player in their Cup run with 2 GWG. He was always a playoff guy and the Leafs, who badly needed that, threw him away for a pile of dog shit. They spent the next 5 years trying to replace Kadri at the deadline by throwing away 1st round picks and prospects. Foligno, ROR, Laughton, etc. all to try and bring back what they gave away with Kadri. Same will now happen with Marner. They couldn’t replace Kadri. They have no hope in hell of replacing Marner.

    Vegas won the Cup and half their team is gone now. They haven’t won it in years. They’re contenders but they aren’t the Florida Panthers.[/quote]
    Dont need to replace marner….they need to find someone who performs in the playoffs when it counts. Someone who shows up in Games 5- 7….they already have no shows like Matthews and JT sometimes….they couldnt keep another $13m plus no show.
    They wont replace his 90 – 100pts in the reg season, although they could come close. But they need better bang for their $13m+ in playoff games 5 – 7.
    Also, because they overpaid matthews and marner….and kadri was always suspended in the playoffs, they had to use his cap elsewhere. So they traded out his 44 – 60pts for a 50pt Dman and a 42 point 3rd line center….both of which were needed.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Fakepartofme.
    #16744
    Fakepartofme
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    It’s usually best to keep the LHD on the left and the RHD on the right, except in rare situations like the PP.

    I was saying Tanev is not Seth Jones, not Carlo. But you’re right, neither is like Jones. Jones could take over a game. He did more than once against the Leafs. The Leafs don’t have that, on the left or the right. They just have Rielly who does have tremendous playoff puck luck offensively but terrible defensively. And year after year, it’s cost them in the playoffs.

    I can agree with this. The Leafs do need another above average Right-handed defenseman. They keep floating Karlsson out there. If they’d take Rielly off of our hands and gave the Leafs $2M retained for the last 2 years of Karlsson, than go for that. It could also include other pieces, where Pittsburgh gets a player like McMann or Robertson and the Leafs get a second rounder, or a good 3rd line forward in return. Would Rielly like to play with Sid and Gino? Back with Dubas? Let’s see if that could play.

    Karlsson is horrible.
    Avoid him at all cost.

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