The EP40 Drama that won’t go away FFS.

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  • #86738
    VHG
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    Why would you want a guy like Byfield at 24?

    “Where most skaters seek out space; Byfield carries the puck like a power running back in the NFL. Blessed with a 6-foot-4 frame, explosive skating stride, and extremely gifted hands, this is a player who always wants the puck on his stick. A fantastic transporter of the puck, deploying a wide array of rush patterns to adjust to defensive fronts.” -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide

    The date on your quote is 2020… 6 years ago… playing against 17/18 year olds when he was a undrafted prospect.

    He’s entering his prime now and has underachieved. The skills mentioned are there… but reality has brought the ceiling down on him respectively. Still untapped potential none the less… but his struggles have to be acknowledged.

    I didnt comment on the 3way trade idea going around you posted but this is a good spot to mention what I’d rather. Make a Byfield trade we were discussing then take the parts that come with Byfield and trade them for Miroshnichenko.

    EP40 for Byfield and Miroshnichenko.

    The 3 way Larkin trade leaves the Canucks in a brutal situation down the middle even for a rebuilding team. This doesn’t happen with Byfield in the line up. They get a young large top 6 center and an even younger power forward winger(with a ton of upside still) for Petey who in spite of looking impressive, is not in the long term future.

    They’ll need a C back for sure especially when you add Chytil to the mix. Problem is Center is a position which is in great demand right now. I think EP would waive for LA because of his wife and just buying a house there. Take a chance on Byfield he’s only 24 just what RJ wants. Then sure add the Commie as well!

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    #86737
    Booner
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    Why would you want a guy like Byfield at 24?

    “Where most skaters seek out space; Byfield carries the puck like a power running back in the NFL. Blessed with a 6-foot-4 frame, explosive skating stride, and extremely gifted hands, this is a player who always wants the puck on his stick. A fantastic transporter of the puck, deploying a wide array of rush patterns to adjust to defensive fronts.” -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide

    The date on your quote is 2020… 6 years ago… playing against 17/18 year olds when he was a undrafted prospect.

    He’s entering his prime now and has underachieved. The skills mentioned are there… but reality has brought the ceiling down on him respectively. Still untapped potential none the less… but his struggles have to be acknowledged.

    I didnt comment on the 3way trade idea going around you posted but this is a good spot to mention what I’d rather. Make a Byfield trade we were discussing then take the parts that come with Byfield and trade them for Miroshnichenko.

    EP40 for Byfield and Miroshnichenko.

    The 3 way Larkin trade leaves the Canucks in a brutal situation down the middle even for a rebuilding team. This doesn’t happen with Byfield in the line up. They get a young large top 6 center and an even younger power forward winger(with a ton of upside still) for Petey who in spite of looking impressive, is not in the long term future.

    #86736
    VHG
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    Too early for people to forget he flaked out for a couple of seasons. There were reasons a plenty but there’s no shortage of examples of players of his caliber overcoming tough life situations. He just doesn’t have the mental fortitude. I refuse to villainize him for it. He’s not the personality people want in their stars. That’s also on others for thinking all people can be something on demand that they are not.

    An example of this is how Horvat was shamed out of town after all the criticism of him not fighting enough and being a pussy. It built up an unfair narrative of the player in this market. Examples of good leaders who were not fighters are everywhere in the NHL(and he did occasionally fight and win). The haters were not satisfied with stripping the C of him either. He had to go because his presence on the team was a bad example even. It was celebrated when he was traded. It didnt take long for those people to harp on about it being “Miller’s team now”… “the true leader” and we now know he is a tumor in the room… on the ice… and even at team dinners etc… Even when it was QH named Captain… the very people beating the “not tough enough” “doesn’t fight enough” crowd thought QH was a great choice. A guy softer and fights not less… simply never. And another guy who turned out to be a terrible leader. Another player expected to be something he’s just not(coming round to my original point).

    I really wonder about how people view leadership. I was a man on an Island when I was contradicting the popular opinions on these 3 guys. To be honest, most fans think the players don’t know who the leader is until they sew the C on someone’s jersey. Before that, it’s a room without a rudder…lol.

    Fair post. There’s not one player on the team who stands out to be captain. Hopefully that becomes clear in the future. Thats okay the expectations are low right now.

    #86734
    Booner
    Participant

    Too early for people to forget he flaked out for a couple of seasons. There were reasons a plenty but there’s no shortage of examples of players of his caliber overcoming tough life situations. He just doesn’t have the mental fortitude. I refuse to villainize him for it. He’s not the personality people want in their stars. That’s also on others for thinking all people can be something on demand that they are not.

    An example of this is how Horvat was shamed out of town after all the criticism of him not fighting enough and being a pussy. It built up an unfair narrative of the player in this market. Examples of good leaders who were not fighters are everywhere in the NHL(and he did occasionally fight and win). The haters were not satisfied with stripping the C of him either. He had to go because his presence on the team was a bad example even. It was celebrated when he was traded. It didnt take long for those people to harp on about it being “Miller’s team now”… “the true leader” and we now know he is a tumor in the room… on the ice… and even at team dinners etc… Even when it was QH named Captain… the very people beating the “not tough enough” “doesn’t fight enough” crowd thought QH was a great choice. A guy softer and fights not less… simply never. And another guy who turned out to be a terrible leader. Another player expected to be something he’s just not(coming round to my original point).

    I really wonder about how people view leadership. I was a man on an Island when I was contradicting the popular opinions on these 3 guys. To be honest, most fans think the players don’t know who the leader is until they sew the C on someone’s jersey. Before that, it’s a room without a rudder…lol.

    #86733
    VHG
    Participant

    Why would you want a guy like Byfield at 24?

    “Where most skaters seek out space; Byfield carries the puck like a power running back in the NFL. Blessed with a 6-foot-4 frame, explosive skating stride, and extremely gifted hands, this is a player who always wants the puck on his stick. A fantastic transporter of the puck, deploying a wide array of rush patterns to adjust to defensive fronts.” -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide

    #86732
    VHG
    Participant

    Byfield has never really impressed me so add a 1st needs to make me go for it. EP is better than that offer but his NMC is a game changer. Also no rush unless RJ sees no future for EP fitting into the rebuild.

    RJ is looking for 25 and under players with great skating ability.

    #86731
    VHG
    Participant

    Fans are in a rush to move Petey before he gets named Captain. He is playing a game type that Manny surely desires and uses as an example. If it were based on just this season, Petey is looking like Captain material. Doubtful they name a C this season but no one else is even close when it comes to leading by example.

    He’s playing well. Apparently he doesn’t have a good reputation around the league. Probably because he’s a flake and not a team guy. That will also factor in if they try to move him. A beta introvert for team captain, what could possibly go wrong?

    #86728
    Booner
    Participant

    Fans are in a rush to move Petey before he gets named Captain. He is playing a game type that Manny surely desires and uses as an example. If it were based on just this season, Petey is looking like Captain material. Doubtful they name a C this season but no one else is even close when it comes to leading by example.

    #86671
    Nighthawk
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    #86659
    Nighthawk
    Participant

    Byfield has never really impressed me so add a 1st needs to make me go for it. EP is better than that offer but his NMC is a game changer. Also no rush unless RJ sees no future for EP fitting into the rebuild.

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