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July 8, 2025 at 11:15 am #15497
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ParticipantThe era doesnt really matter….there was still money to be had for the big boys…and no one was flocking to florida….they simply werent winning.
I already said its a factor…but its not “the” factor….no one would be signing for less to play for the panthers if they werent a winning franchise the past 3 years.
Winning is still the driver for most players. Winning, weather, taxes, anonymity, family.Mitch was offered $13.5….he wasnt staying for any amount imo, his mind was already made…his ego cant handle playing in Toronto.
The average nhl salary in 2003 was $1.7m
Now its about $3.4mI just ran a forbes tax calculator for a single person in florida and Ontario at a $12m salary
Florida take home was $7.6m after taxes
Ontario take home was $6.4m after taxesNot sure how accurate it is…but only about $1.2m difference.
What numbers are you using?
Florida: $12 x 0.63 = $7.56
Ontario: $12 x 0.4647 = $5.58
You might want to relearn the calculator.
Florida taxation: 37%
Ontario taxation: 53.53%July 8, 2025 at 11:14 am #15494Fakepartofme
ParticipantSo whats next for the leafs?
Maybe a mid range bottom 6 player? Roslovic, Olofsson? maybe 1 to 2 year deals?
July 8, 2025 at 11:14 am #15493senstrolltwo
ParticipantIf in the next 4 years matthews hasnt led this team to a couple of cup finals..or even one cup finals and several 3rd round appearances…..Im ok to move on from him.
yes of course. You keep him a Leaf forever if he wants to stay.
Washington would have been morons to trade Ovy because he didnt win a cup in 12 seasons.there is a handfull of players (in the league) you never move, and AM is one of them..imo
July 8, 2025 at 11:13 am #15492WHIPPER
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
If matthews keeps his disappearing act in playoff games 5 – 7….would we really want to resign him?
If in the next 4 years matthews hasnt led this team to a couple of cup finals..or even one cup finals and several 3rd round appearances…..Im ok to move on from him.That is a valid point, Matthews needs to nut TF up.
July 8, 2025 at 11:12 am #15491WHIPPER
ParticipantNot sure how accurate it is…but only about $1.2m difference.
Bro, are you serious?!?! If your boss said to you “we’re making some changes and you’ll be taking home 15% less,” you’d just be cool with that?!?!
That’s $1.2M per year! On an 8 year contract, that’s almost $10M!!! Nobody can convince me that doesn’t give some teams a HUGE advantage.
July 8, 2025 at 11:08 am #15490Fakepartofme
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
If matthews keeps his disappearing act in playoff games 5 – 7….would we really want to resign him?
If in the next 4 years matthews hasnt led this team to a couple of cup finals..or even one cup finals and several 3rd round appearances…..Im ok to move on from him.July 8, 2025 at 11:05 am #15489senstrolltwo
ParticipantThey sign matching $15M contracts, and share the C:-)
i just meant how much he signs for, if he signs a deal for say 17m, does AM get more a year later.
but I like your thinking
July 8, 2025 at 11:03 am #15487Fakepartofme
ParticipantDo you actually believe Marner would have stayed here for $12 million? He’d be $14.5-$15.
$7-$9 is nothing more than upper average now.
2001-03 was a different era without a cap.
It’s a pretty basic thing to factor. Star players essentially want $7+ million take home post taxation. Yes, other factors matter, but that one is huge.[/quote]
The era doesnt really matter….there was still money to be had for the big boys…and no one was flocking to florida….they simply werent winning.
I already said its a factor…but its not “the” factor….no one would be signing for less to play for the panthers if they werent a winning franchise the past 3 years.
Winning is still the driver for most players. Winning, weather, taxes, anonymity, family.Mitch was offered $13.5….he wasnt staying for any amount imo, his mind was already made…his ego cant handle playing in Toronto.
The average nhl salary in 2003 was $1.7m
Now its about $3.4mI just ran a forbes tax calculator for a single person in florida and Ontario at a $12m salary
Florida take home was $7.6m after taxes
Ontario take home was $6.4m after taxesNot sure how accurate it is…but only about $1.2m difference.
July 8, 2025 at 11:01 am #15485Dozzer
ParticipantTrue, but I’m sure they’re also currently doing that, so any change to the CBA will still have a pretty serious impact on the tax gymnastics they’re able to do.
Meh, then they’ll just start doing synchronized swimming taxes
July 8, 2025 at 10:58 am #15483WHIPPER
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
what will the cap be in 2028? around 120 mil?
If AM signed for the same cap % as his current deal, that would be 16.68m
so call it 17, would he sign for that?guess it depends what Mcdavid does
They sign matching $15M contracts, and share the C:-)
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