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  • #15497
    Dozzer
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    The era doesnt really matter….there was still money to be had for the big boys…and no one was flocking to florida….they simply werent winning.
    I already said its a factor…but its not “the” factor….no one would be signing for less to play for the panthers if they werent a winning franchise the past 3 years.
    Winning is still the driver for most players. Winning, weather, taxes, anonymity, family.

    Mitch was offered $13.5….he wasnt staying for any amount imo, his mind was already made…his ego cant handle playing in Toronto.
    The average nhl salary in 2003 was $1.7m
    Now its about $3.4m

    I just ran a forbes tax calculator for a single person in florida and Ontario at a $12m salary
    Florida take home was $7.6m after taxes
    Ontario take home was $6.4m after taxes

    Not sure how accurate it is…but only about $1.2m difference.

    What numbers are you using?

    Florida: $12 x 0.63 = $7.56

    Ontario: $12 x 0.4647 = $5.58

    You might want to relearn the calculator.

    Florida taxation: 37%
    Ontario taxation: 53.53%

    #15494
    Fakepartofme
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    So whats next for the leafs?

    Maybe a mid range bottom 6 player? Roslovic, Olofsson? maybe 1 to 2 year deals?

    #15493
    senstrolltwo
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    If in the next 4 years matthews hasnt led this team to a couple of cup finals..or even one cup finals and several 3rd round appearances…..Im ok to move on from him.

    yes of course. You keep him a Leaf forever if he wants to stay.
    Washington would have been morons to trade Ovy because he didnt win a cup in 12 seasons.

    there is a handfull of players (in the league) you never move, and AM is one of them..imo

    #15492
    WHIPPER
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    You have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.

    If matthews keeps his disappearing act in playoff games 5 – 7….would we really want to resign him?
    If in the next 4 years matthews hasnt led this team to a couple of cup finals..or even one cup finals and several 3rd round appearances…..Im ok to move on from him.

    That is a valid point, Matthews needs to nut TF up.

    #15491
    WHIPPER
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    Not sure how accurate it is…but only about $1.2m difference.

    Bro, are you serious?!?! If your boss said to you “we’re making some changes and you’ll be taking home 15% less,” you’d just be cool with that?!?!

    That’s $1.2M per year! On an 8 year contract, that’s almost $10M!!! Nobody can convince me that doesn’t give some teams a HUGE advantage.

    #15490
    Fakepartofme
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    You have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.

    If matthews keeps his disappearing act in playoff games 5 – 7….would we really want to resign him?
    If in the next 4 years matthews hasnt led this team to a couple of cup finals..or even one cup finals and several 3rd round appearances…..Im ok to move on from him.

    #15489
    senstrolltwo
    Participant

    They sign matching $15M contracts, and share the C:-)

    i just meant how much he signs for, if he signs a deal for say 17m, does AM get more a year later.

    but I like your thinking

    #15487
    Fakepartofme
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    Do you actually believe Marner would have stayed here for $12 million? He’d be $14.5-$15.

    $7-$9 is nothing more than upper average now.

    2001-03 was a different era without a cap.

    It’s a pretty basic thing to factor. Star players essentially want $7+ million take home post taxation. Yes, other factors matter, but that one is huge.[/quote]

    The era doesnt really matter….there was still money to be had for the big boys…and no one was flocking to florida….they simply werent winning.
    I already said its a factor…but its not “the” factor….no one would be signing for less to play for the panthers if they werent a winning franchise the past 3 years.
    Winning is still the driver for most players. Winning, weather, taxes, anonymity, family.

    Mitch was offered $13.5….he wasnt staying for any amount imo, his mind was already made…his ego cant handle playing in Toronto.
    The average nhl salary in 2003 was $1.7m
    Now its about $3.4m

    I just ran a forbes tax calculator for a single person in florida and Ontario at a $12m salary
    Florida take home was $7.6m after taxes
    Ontario take home was $6.4m after taxes

    Not sure how accurate it is…but only about $1.2m difference.

    #15485
    Dozzer
    Participant

    True, but I’m sure they’re also currently doing that, so any change to the CBA will still have a pretty serious impact on the tax gymnastics they’re able to do.

    Meh, then they’ll just start doing synchronized swimming taxes

    #15483
    WHIPPER
    Participant

    You have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.

    what will the cap be in 2028? around 120 mil?

    If AM signed for the same cap % as his current deal, that would be 16.68m
    so call it 17, would he sign for that?

    guess it depends what Mcdavid does

    They sign matching $15M contracts, and share the C:-)

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