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July 8, 2025 at 10:57 am #15482
WHIPPER
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
Not as bad as I thought it would be like I mentioned. I’m sure a banker/investor/etc could play the game beautifully
True, but I’m sure they’re also currently doing that, so any change to the CBA will still have a pretty serious impact on the tax gymnastics they’re able to do.
July 8, 2025 at 10:56 am #15481senstrolltwo
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
what will the cap be in 2028? around 120 mil?
If AM signed for the same cap % as his current deal, that would be 16.68m
so call it 17, would he sign for that?guess it depends what Mcdavid does
July 8, 2025 at 10:55 am #15480Dozzer
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
Not as bad as I thought it would be like I mentioned. I’m sure a banker/investor/etc could play the game beautifully
July 8, 2025 at 10:53 am #15479Dozzer
ParticipantYes, so starting in 2026 all new contracts will have this restriction. Existing contracts are grandfathered.
And thank you
Wonder if that will hurt keeping someone like Matthews around.
Meh… just hammered out the numbers quick and it would cost him about $1 million and that’s only if every game was in Toronto, I did it very generally so I’m guessing it wouldn’t be too bad of an adjustment for the leafs to make with bonuses to out of country players
July 8, 2025 at 10:51 am #15478senstrolltwo
ParticipantIs that only for contracts moving forward? Matthews’ bonuses after the new cap kicks in are at 77% and 70% for the last two years of his contract.
yes contracts signed under the new cba
July 8, 2025 at 10:48 am #15477WHIPPER
ParticipantYou have to wonder if this is going to make it harder for the Leafs to re-sign Matthews once his current contract is up. This new CBA will literally cost Matthews millions out of pocket.
July 8, 2025 at 10:47 am #15476Dozzer
ParticipantNew contracts. You can’t redo existing contracts
???? thank you
July 8, 2025 at 10:45 am #15475monkeypunk
Participantin the new CBA the signing bonus is now capped at 60% – Signing bonuses will be capped at 60 percent of the full player’s salary
so a little advantage the Leafs had they are looking at as a problem…naturallyalso Jays giving 2015 vibes, but also how is that 10 years ago
Is that only for contracts moving forward? Matthews’ bonuses after the new cap kicks in are at 77% and 70% for the last two years of his contract.
Yes, so starting in 2026 all new contracts will have this restriction. Existing contracts are grandfathered.
July 8, 2025 at 10:38 am #15472CanadaCup
Participantin the new CBA the signing bonus is now capped at 60% – Signing bonuses will be capped at 60 percent of the full player’s salary
so a little advantage the Leafs had they are looking at as a problem…naturallyalso Jays giving 2015 vibes, but also how is that 10 years ago
Is that only for contracts moving forward? Matthews’ bonuses after the new cap kicks in are at 77% and 70% for the last two years of his contract.
New contracts. You can’t redo existing contracts
July 8, 2025 at 10:38 am #15471Dozzer
ParticipantBack in 2008 top players were making decent cash $7 -$9m (for that time)….no one was flocking to florida to play
In 2001 – 2003 top players were making $9 to $11.5m…..no one was flocking to florida to play.
Winning…changes everything.
Of course there are loop holes and tax breaks or lower taxes that players can take advantage of now to save money…of course that helps (along with weather)…not disputing that. But winning is the honey that attracts the bears and ants. If florida, tampa and dallas were garbage losing teams you think players would sign for less to play there?
Nope.
They take less, because they win….and they’ve built winning cultures…or even cultures that may be a “team first” culture. Which seems to be the exact opposite of what was built in Toronto.
Toronto got cocky and lazy….they thought everyone would want to play here cause its the “mecca of hockey”….so they seem to stop building a winning brand…they missed the boat and even homegrown talent got greedy or simply didnt want to stay and play.
But winning…can change that.
This notion that its all about taxes is BS…it helps….but so does winning and having a team first winning culture.And of course the league will never do anything help northern teams (except pittsburgh), for sure its all about the southern teams…need new fans.
Do you actually believe Marner would have stayed here for $12 million? He’d be $14.5-$15.
$7-$9 is nothing more than upper average now.
2001-03 was a different era without a cap.
It’s a pretty basic thing to factor. Star players essentially want $7+ million take home post taxation. Yes, other factors matter, but that one is huge.
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