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I ain’t reading all that
He ain’t getting fired is my answer to everything.
Anyway, Anaheim is in on Panarin. Maybe they can get McQueen. I’d think they’d protect their first rder
The thing with Anaheim is whether or not theyll be able to resign Panarin.
On the surface of things, it seems they have a lot of cap space, but they need to resign Carlsson and Gauthier. Trouba, Gudas and Mintyukov are also FA.
Don’t you have to have a captain tho? And this retool started 2 seasons ago. Once that Florida series ended. The first step was he is/was changing leadership. And what did they give up for him? A player who’s head is an injury waiting to happen who you would never re-sign knowing that, a RHD who we had an excess amount of, and the pick was protected. It was 15 OA, it wasn’t the end of the world. Point is just because they’re are selling off pieces don’t mean you don’t find someone to be captain. Every team in sports needs one and we didn’t have anyone worthy of it
Ideally they’re getting better as soon as next season with new players and vision, and by gods grace they draft McKenna or in the top 4.
I honestly think if he sent the letter last year you/fans/people would understand this all more. His timing was way off. Also I know you don’t want to hear this but it’s no coincidence this came out after Shesty got hurt. It’s like waving the white flag. I’m just saying I’m glad Drury started this retoool 2 years ago so we’re at least moving forward in the right direction. I mean we have potentially 5 first rders the next two years. That’s gotta mean something
Do we need a captain? No. We went quite a few years without one. However, lets assume we need one, what was wrong with making Trocheck captain? I think all of us would have been perfectly fine with him being captain. That makes bringing in Miller to be captain completely unnecessary.
What did it cost us? 11 OA. But that could have been top 10 without Miller here. Hell it could have been a net positive where we keep our 1st rd pick, and maybe have gained a 2nd rd pick for Chytil or whatever.
You say hey, its great the retool started 2 years ago. I say why? What was the point? Bring in Miller, Smith, Gavrikov… Why? Thats not the kind of moves a GM makes to retool. Those moves scream trying to salvage a team to try to make the playoffs.
Before this year started, knowing what Panarin would want in an extension, you had to know whether or not you were going to bring him back. Im quite sure that Drury had no intentions of bringing him back. So why bother doing all the other stuff? Wby bother bringing in his friend?
Salary cap? Who cares?
Leadership and veterans…? Could have brought in Dumoulin and Grzelcyk on the cheap with the lack of depth we had on the left side and their familiarity with Sullivans coaching. Its not the sexy option but youre only committed for a couple years until guys develop.
The problem tj is you have no legs to stand on. When guys said tear it down after the first time *cough*Tom*cough* you sat there, laughed and crapped on him. Years went on, Drury took over, and many of us were not happy with the decisions made, you sat there took Drury’s side and said wait. Time kept going on, and we kept saying enough is enough and do the right thing and tear it down finally. Drury starts making an embarrassment of the organization with his handling of players. We keep saying tear it down for the love of god, were just not there. He goes and trades for Miller, trades for Reilly Smith and signs Gavrikov. NOW hes finally tearing it down, and youre telling us, hey hes doing the right thing and tearing it down, be patient. You cant have it both ways. You were never on the side of tearing it down, but now, because its convenient to do so, there you are.
Then you go and question our loyalty to this organization because we dont support the management that runs the organization.
I wasn’t going to get into the keeping/signing players. He’s been hit or miss on that.
For as big of a disaster Nemeth was, we ended up losing the 42nd overall pick in 2025 in that trade and what will likely be around pick 34 this year which is absolutely HORRENDOUS when u think about it, the Trocheck signing was great.MANY people shit on the Trocheck contract. I told everyone it was a steal.
It was 12th overall, not 15th. And when ur going through a rebuild I’d take 12th overall every single day of the week over a 32 year old.
I’m not mad we’re rebuilding, I’m mad at who’s doing it given his track record. He gets smoked on trades, very rarely comes out on top.
JT Miller trade – bad
Keandre Miller trade – good
Nemeth trade – horrific
Buch trade – horrible
Kreider trade – horrible
Trouba trade – horrible
Reilly Smith trade – terrible
Kakko trade – terrible
Kravtsov handling/trade – terrible
Kane trade – horrible
Tarasenko trade – ok
Lindgren/Vesey trade – ok
Roslovic trade – good
Wennberg trade – bad
Motte trade – goodVatrano trade – good
Letting him walk for nothing after having clear chemistry with this squad for a 3.3m contract – horrible
tj, again youre missing the point. No one here is mad about the tear down. Were mad at how its being done.
Hes done everything possible to sabotage himself with every move by basically putting flashing lights around it. Whether its by putting names out there or by telling people who he wants and overpaying for them.
Did he REALLY need veteran leadership? I thought Trocheck, and for that matter Carrick, are solid leaders. What has Miller done to make people believe he is a leader? Using the Messier analogy is just bad.
If youre gonna suck, then suck 100%, dont go out and get Miller and Gavrikov.
It’s probably somewhat calculated for Drury to get worse. If you look at these east teams, 3-4-5 of them have really turned the corner and gotten really good. You guys refuse to see it not realizing how much we would suck even with the all guys they let go. It wouldn’t make little to no difference if they stood pat. They got slow and old really fast and the window closed. You guys need to open your eyes
So in response to a team somewhat aging out, you go and trade what could have been a top 10 draft pick for a 32 year old center with a hefty contract, a NMC, a history of not being a great locker room guy and make him captain? Then apparently the reason Miller even wanted to come to the Rangers is because he and Trocheck are buddies. Now Trocheck is most likely going to be traded.
Then go and trade a 2nd round pick for a 34 yo winger coming off consecutive down years.
Now I like Gavrikov, hes a solid defenseman, but if the point youre making is the team aging out why would you go and sign Gavrikov? Gavrikov is only a year younger than Trouba and is getting 1m less than him. Basically got net 0 on signing Gavrikov. Then the story goes that he and Panarin are friends and Panarin facilitated his signing in NY. Now Drury has made it very clear that Panarin is gone from the Rangers.
Make it make sense.
That’s another huge issue I have with Drury. He’s f’ing horrific on his returns in all these trades. Not a single player in return on Kreider Trouba KK Goodrow that has helped improve our team. Borgen is a plug, and the Trouba/Kreider returns we got absolutely nothing for bc he announced to the league he hated them and wanted them gone. wtf did u think the return would be after the way he handled that????? MORON.
Well, Ill give him his flowers for the KAndre trade. The return was pretty much along the lines of what everyone wanted to get. If Morrow can develop more defensively, with his already good offensive upside, we might have something good here on top of the picks.
Borgen, I wouldnt call a plug anymore. Offensively hes irrelevant, but defensively hes been fine. Kakko hasnt done anything more in Seattle than what he did in NY.
I feel like we’ve been getting fleeced by Anaheim since 2022, little by little, they seem to be acquiring our 2021 ECF squad at little to no cost. Strome and Vatrano in FA. Kreider and Trouba for pretty much nothing.
Regarding Carrick, I think he could be a very valuable piece for a contending team. A 2nd round pick would surprise me, but I think it’s fair/reasonable. But a 3rd and 4th is also a possibility or maybe a B level prospect.
I want someone to overpay for Carrick the same way we overpaid for… Reilly Smith.
Still Perrault was a first rder wasn’t he?
I’m not trying to be a dyck. Jesus. There just has to be something else to talk about then bashing Drury all day wanting him fired. You guys have made your pts a zillion times by now, I’ve made mine. The org is moving on from players and we all have to accept it.
I want you to answer this honestly. If Sheary doesnt get hurt, do you honestly think that Perreault is getting all this time?
