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Oh a “real fan”, not this again….lol.
Watching a team that continually fails, shows they simply don’t care and aren’t inept enough to build anything close to a winner decade in and decade out. Gets kinda boring no? At least for me it has (and many others I know), and as I’ve gotten older I simply have other things to spend my time and energy on.
I mean its just sports entertainment, so no real impact on our lives anyway (unless you work in the field).But I would say with the leafs, it is all about winning…this isnt a rebuilding team (well it may be forced to be), its why tre blew two 1st rounders on a 4th line center and a 4th dman. Cause it was all about winning. Honestly, this team would be more fun to watch if they did have this years 1st rounder.
I could easily watch (and have) a young developing team….but this isnt it.
This is just a sad, sad team with no real direction, again.However, as we leafers always say, “there is always next year”.
Damn you leafs lol.
😩 *you* lol
Are you seriously that emotionally attached to a sports team? I’m not. However I still support the positives on the team and yes they still have a small handful. Cowan, Robertson, Woll, etc for instance are examples.
Anyways life is a teeter-totter. If you’re going to enjoy the high spot you have to go through the low spot as well, otherwise you’re just one of those modern day brat kids who are spoiled as fuck (literally what I saw coming as a teen in the 90s hence why I was smart enough to never get married or have kids) who are always kept on the high spot and wonder why they’re numb and life is “boring” lol.
Seriously, “be a winner or you’re not worth my time” just makes you a spoiled fan who just isn’t a true fan and I’ll never see it otherwise.
Cheers.
People still watch leafs games?
Pourquoi?Yes? It’s called being a real fan, you go through both the highs and lows or you’re a fake fan who only likes the good times, the end.
Besides, there are still young guys developing in the lineup to watch, not everything is about winning.
Cheers.
That was supposed to say attached not attacked but yet again this site won’t let me edit a post 😐 lol
Meh, we’ve heard the matthews is leaving thing before, all conjecture.
Supper time is the perfect time to watch a hockey game as a kid, Im sure some of the coyotes games were actually on at that time.He’s the captain of the leafs, during good and bad times. Its good for him to go through some bad times as the captain, this is where we will really see what he’s made of.
He’s not a fan of Berube, so the leafs will probably have a new coach this off season.But lets be serious, this will be the first year in Matthews career that he wont be in the playoffs, thats a good run for him.
Also, Matthews has 1 goal in the past 15 games, he’s 36th in goals scores this season, 61st in points….so he wears some of the results as well.Tre really screwed the leafs with trading those 1st, I didnt like the moves then…absolutely hate them now.
The Leafs are leafing!I think you believe hockey players are attacked to their teams emotionally far more than they are.
His favourite team was the coyotes, stayed watching their games when he was 2, with fav players like Doan and Brière. He’s a western boy, the end.
Even Sundin left the leafs, and the leafs have next to nothing in their prospect pool, next to no picks coming up, and basically nothing young to trade for some desperately needed younger D that’s stuck with Rielly who is collapsing talent wise til when they’re willing to hold onto some of his salary to move him.
Sorry, I highly doubt Matthews will stick around for what will turn around into another rebuild. This team won’t be looking good enough by July 1 2028 so move him 364 days earlier.
Another game that’s barely watchable. This team is gutless. I thought the Kessel/Phaneuf years were the year of gutlessness. This is worse. The Leafs have two elite forwards and decent goaltending. But there is no heart, no compete, just playing out the string. What’s bothersome is the idea that they can’t be traded. Rielly, Matthews, Nylander…..can’t trade me if I don’t want to go. Buyouts are too expensive on these guys and the team should be shopping them after this season. This can’t go on any longer. Treliving and Burube are dead men walking. It’s not pretty.
Thankfully the ones who “can’t” be traded are simply the ones who get to “decide where” they get traded. Ontario is high attention, high taxation, high media intensity. They’ll all take a trade to an ideal place, the answer to a Toronto NMC isn’t “nowhere?”, it’s “how many specific locations please?” lol
I took a day to digest what just happened at the trade deadline. It was abysmal and with a competent GM, they would have gotten more. On the up-side, they kept their defensive core intact. The 3 players moved were easily replaceable. Where do I see them going? I figure that now that the trade deadline is over, they’ll settle in with their current roster. At the end of the year, they’ll fire the Coach and GM. While the playoffs continue, they’ll cull together who they want as GM and he’ll bring in his own coaching staff. If I had my way, it would be the Hunter’s but I’m guessing it’ll be a more established GM and Coach. What needs to happen is the gutting of the bottom 2 lines of the roster. Through free agency, they need to find a competent winger that can play with Matthews and Knies. I wish that they’d consider moving Nylander, while he’s still near the top of his game. It’s there they recoup picks and or a blue chip prospect. I’d like to see him traded to Utah in exchange for Logan Cooley. Put Cooley at second line centre and move Tavares to the wing. Get younger and move some salary. If Utah makes it into the playoffs, they might see it as an opportunity to advance, next year, with a 40 goal scorer. Leafs might need to sweeten the deal, but if it’s manageable, make that move. Next, moving a goaltender. It depends what the offer is for any of the 3. If it’s for one of the younger goalies, make sure it’s a tangible young asset, either on the wing or on defense. Lastly, Morgan Rielly. I’m not sure about the structure of his contract, but if there’s a signing bonus, wait until after July 1st and find a new home elsewhere. Even consider a Darnell Nurse even up swap. At least Nurse has a physical element to his game, but he’s also overpaid. Is it worth paying that extra $1.5M per to make that trade? Maybe. In closing, it’s not hopeless. It looks like hot garbage right now, but with a proper GM and Coach, plus some free agents and a couple of trades, this team could bounce back into the playoffs next year.
One last thing. Boycott the games for the rest of the year. Boycott the team merchandise. Make it hurt in MLS&E’s wallet. Stop watching the games on T.V. Just stay away and let it burn. Who knows?
I see what you’re saying, however two minor disagreements, those forwards weren’t worth anything this year, fuck even Kadri needed his contract sustained by Calgary to get a proper kick back for him, the only guys who got anything decent were D men. It was an overselling trade deadline because too many teams were selling.
As for the second disagreement, do what I do, stream it on onhockey.tv for free using the Amazon Silk browser on a firestick, that way nobody gets paid 👍
before Burube Matthews was .75 goals per game with him he is like .40
Has to be some coaching impact if its just goals that matter. maybe some injury stuff idfkOh it’s both, the injury…at first. Then he had to recover into a new style, one which uses him against defensively more against the opposition’s top tier guys…I think? Maybe it’s out there with the hope he’ll be doing the offensive role more but he’s not? I don’t know.
I agree Doz. Going with both a green GM and coach was a massive misjudgment by Shanahan, who was a green president himself. None of them knew how to handle it.
Yeah, I’m no JT hater by any means but they shouldn’t have signed him and just rolled with Kadri. Also the deal tossed at Rielly was far too kind for what he is. I wouldn’t have even hated the price tag without a NMC. I hope he’s reaching a point where he will personally want a fresh start on a new team, I assume it will be a pretty even trade unless he has one of his step up seasons but I’m not banking on it since he hasn’t looked good under Berube’s game yet.
Either way, let the younger guys play for the rest of this year along with the core and the primary guys that will be put up for sale in the off-season now *shrugs*
This is mostly correct.
The Leafs won’t choose to rebuild but Matthews can and will force their hand. If he decides to leave (he should), Nylander will waive his NTC and Tavares, in his old age, will realize he’s better off chasing a Cup elsewhere. Rielly will take a hike too.
If they run back the same team and don’t fire Berube, this team will suck again. The UFA market is empty. The available options are old and underwhelming. Will the Leafs overpay to entice old, former star players or mediocre players to join an obviously dysfunctional, bad team in a terrible market?
The wild card is if they fire Berube and hire DeBoer. DeBoer is the ultimate runner up coach. He can turn a team around and get them to lose in the Finals.
Matthews and Nylander could easily get the Leafs a boatload of 1sts, top prospects and young roster players. If the Leafs trade them both at the 2027 draft, tank 2028, tank 2029, by 2030 they have an excellent chance to return to the playoffs. Also, July 2029 gives the Leafs the opportunity to sign McDavid as he might be a UFA and the Leafs would have unlimited cap space to overpay him while the rest of the team is still on ELCs.
Yup, that’s my guess, until their primary asset/captain bails on the team not much will change. The goaltending and D won’t get mixed up without deals and the forward moves will sound bigger than they are in the media.
However once Matthews decides to head out I can see ownership keeping some of the valid youth and dropping/moving everything else to simply start over again, hopefully this time around they choose experienced leadership upstairs, and yes I’m dating that point back to Dubas and Keefe as well.
I can almost guarantee MLSE will not allow a tear down followed by a rebuild starting now. They are gonna milk this ca$chow as long as possible as usual.
As usual they will try to Bandaid this thing, and they will fail. Pelley has the option of firing Treliving. But if the next GM is told not to rebuild, they will know this is doomed to fail. Too many holes, too many needs, not enough assets. What credible GM is going to want to take on a plan doomed to fail, only have to admit failure and rebuild in a year or two?
My best guess is Tree will be back. Because this is the Leafs, after all, and they will do the exact opposite of what they should do.
It’s looking like won’t take that long, remember Matthews is a western American boy so he didn’t grow up watching the leafs, their games would have been on at f’n supper time for him, so if they don’t get their shit back together in a hurry he’ll bail, head back to the US, and likely play over in the west.
And when that happens the leafs will be a bunch of old guys, Nylander, some half decent younger guys and that’s it, nobody decent will sign here because of it and they will forced into a rebuild. I’m guessing 1 more year tops and if they suck ass again they sell Matthews July 2nd 2027 in his final year at half the cap hit once everything but $900K has been paid to him. The return would be sweet.
