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before Burube Matthews was .75 goals per game with him he is like .40
Has to be some coaching impact if its just goals that matter. maybe some injury stuff idfkOh it’s both, the injury…at first. Then he had to recover into a new style, one which uses him against defensively more against the opposition’s top tier guys…I think? Maybe it’s out there with the hope he’ll be doing the offensive role more but he’s not? I don’t know.
I agree Doz. Going with both a green GM and coach was a massive misjudgment by Shanahan, who was a green president himself. None of them knew how to handle it.
Yeah, I’m no JT hater by any means but they shouldn’t have signed him and just rolled with Kadri. Also the deal tossed at Rielly was far too kind for what he is. I wouldn’t have even hated the price tag without a NMC. I hope he’s reaching a point where he will personally want a fresh start on a new team, I assume it will be a pretty even trade unless he has one of his step up seasons but I’m not banking on it since he hasn’t looked good under Berube’s game yet.
Either way, let the younger guys play for the rest of this year along with the core and the primary guys that will be put up for sale in the off-season now *shrugs*
This is mostly correct.
The Leafs won’t choose to rebuild but Matthews can and will force their hand. If he decides to leave (he should), Nylander will waive his NTC and Tavares, in his old age, will realize he’s better off chasing a Cup elsewhere. Rielly will take a hike too.
If they run back the same team and don’t fire Berube, this team will suck again. The UFA market is empty. The available options are old and underwhelming. Will the Leafs overpay to entice old, former star players or mediocre players to join an obviously dysfunctional, bad team in a terrible market?
The wild card is if they fire Berube and hire DeBoer. DeBoer is the ultimate runner up coach. He can turn a team around and get them to lose in the Finals.
Matthews and Nylander could easily get the Leafs a boatload of 1sts, top prospects and young roster players. If the Leafs trade them both at the 2027 draft, tank 2028, tank 2029, by 2030 they have an excellent chance to return to the playoffs. Also, July 2029 gives the Leafs the opportunity to sign McDavid as he might be a UFA and the Leafs would have unlimited cap space to overpay him while the rest of the team is still on ELCs.
Yup, that’s my guess, until their primary asset/captain bails on the team not much will change. The goaltending and D won’t get mixed up without deals and the forward moves will sound bigger than they are in the media.
However once Matthews decides to head out I can see ownership keeping some of the valid youth and dropping/moving everything else to simply start over again, hopefully this time around they choose experienced leadership upstairs, and yes I’m dating that point back to Dubas and Keefe as well.
I can almost guarantee MLSE will not allow a tear down followed by a rebuild starting now. They are gonna milk this ca$chow as long as possible as usual.
As usual they will try to Bandaid this thing, and they will fail. Pelley has the option of firing Treliving. But if the next GM is told not to rebuild, they will know this is doomed to fail. Too many holes, too many needs, not enough assets. What credible GM is going to want to take on a plan doomed to fail, only have to admit failure and rebuild in a year or two?
My best guess is Tree will be back. Because this is the Leafs, after all, and they will do the exact opposite of what they should do.
It’s looking like won’t take that long, remember Matthews is a western American boy so he didn’t grow up watching the leafs, their games would have been on at f’n supper time for him, so if they don’t get their shit back together in a hurry he’ll bail, head back to the US, and likely play over in the west.
And when that happens the leafs will be a bunch of old guys, Nylander, some half decent younger guys and that’s it, nobody decent will sign here because of it and they will forced into a rebuild. I’m guessing 1 more year tops and if they suck ass again they sell Matthews July 2nd 2027 in his final year at half the cap hit once everything but $900K has been paid to him. The return would be sweet.
Why all the doom and gloom. When Matthews returns from the Olympics the Leafs will have a solid 2nd line checking center to start the rebuild.
It’s looking like they need a new coach to bring him back, and I seriously mean drive the car lol
I will add that according to Tree there was little to no retention needed in the league this year. Too many sellers as well. This is a deadline that saw both Kadri and Schenn move with 3 and 2 years left on their deals. Flames retained 20% and Blues retained 0 from what I can see. So laughton being cheap wasn’t as valuable as I originally thought.
They got Laughton last year and were division champs. Why would you not make a deal in that season? It’s only a 1st and they expected two playoff runs with him. Sadly the second didn’t come to fruition.
If we look and say a 1st, 3rd (condition to 2nd), 5th for Laughton and Roy I think everyone would be relatively happy. I’d like to hope the kings make the playoffs, give up the 2nd and the leafs resign Laughton.
Overall I give the deadline a C+. I still think they should have moved Jarnkrok, Benoit, possibly Maccelli as he is RFA and due for a raise above 3.4 million. Maybe stetcher or Carlo and even possibly OEL.
I do think the Carlo trade was a bit of an overpay but again, the leafs got the coveted RHD, under contract for last playoffs and this year AND next. Pricey to pay with only top 5 protected. Hindsight is 20/20 though. If they beat the Panthers last year, are we talking the same thing?
I heard rumblings of Stolarz being moved and I suspect a goalie will be gone in the summer. Hildebeast is no longer waiver exempt next year so they likely have to move off one of the guys.
Yeah, the only repeated decent draws seemed to be d men this year, agreed. We will see what the leafs are doing to move longer contracts out this off-season, which as you know thankfully are never typically deadline moves lol. I also think it’s safe to consider the returns on these forwards were a bit low this year because the UFA group is looking a bit weak. So them and their agents likely weren’t on board with agreeing to an extension as part of a deal since the open market might pay out nicely this year. Hence why they didn’t draw all that much, since they’re nothing more than rentals for a couple of months.
thats what I was thinking, they could probably squeeze one 1st out of someone. but doubt much more.
Tre way overpaid for Carlo and Laughton, now he will sell at a big loss. if he even trades them.this guy is smrt
nailed it. got one 1st. not much more. sold Laughton at a lossThe only way Laughton makes any sense is the overpayment was due to him being bought to finish last year, those playoffs, and this year and what was expected to be playoffs as well. Philly also held half his contract. So it makes the price of selling him for nothing more than a third, being a half priced guy, even worse, unless he’s just a rental that they’re planning to resign in the off-season. Not my idea, I’m just wondering if they’re thinking this.
Here’s hoping the selling brings back some useful stuff. I mean I know it will be a late round pick, but at least Marner turned into a 1st.
