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Flyers_01
Participantthat piece is a joke as no way bonk starts on the flyers for a variety of reasons.
on a side not sure how any real flyers fan can have faith/optimism with this team, farm system, and management to get them to “contending” status.
The article may be over the top but isn’t that far off from other puff pieces the Flyers are putting out there. He’ll start in the AHL but it may just be to get in shape. At least that seems to be the message from a number of outlets. Hopefully he spends the year in the AHL regardless of how bad the big club defense is player development needs to come first during a ‘rebuild’.
yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_top_prospect_out_week_to_week_with_upper_body_injury/s1_14825_42831115
Head coach Rick Tocchet has reportedly become disenfranchised with the available defense options, telling NHL contributor Bill Meltzer that nobody has stepped up enough to grab one of the team’s bubble spots on defense.
Should that disappointing play continue into the first few weeks of the regular season, the Flyers could conceivably use Bonk’s first few games with the Phantoms as a makeshift training camp. If he excels through the first few weeks, Philadelphia could recall him for an opportunity at the NHL level.Flyers_01
ParticipantHard to earn a spot from the hot tub but it is the Flyers.
From the article :
In fact, he might be in the running simply by having not played.
That’s not to say Bonk will hit the ground running and establish himself as an outstanding rookie defenseman immediately. Yet, the average to rather uninspiring play from some of the blueliners not in the top two pairs has Bonk with a chance. Bonk might end up with the Flyers as soon as he’s physically ready to play.
It’s basically saying the Flyers defense is so bad that you don’t have to earn a spot to make the big club, you just have to be breathing. It doesn’t sound like some things have improved at all since Torts left but they still have that patented Flyers Stanley Cup winning culture to build around although the closest they’ve been to the cup is watching it on TV.
If training camp doesn’t matter, you know what this means? Jett has a chance to make the big club!
Flyers_01
Participanthttps://x.com/NHLFlyers/status/1973406298277552419
Bonk out another 2 weeks. Does anyone even know what his specific injury is? As usual Flyers injury updates are useless and of course he went from day-to-day to week-to-week so that’s not great.
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“Learning and developing skills doesn’t have to happen in the lower leagues. Players are constantly improving and adding things to their bags of tricks throughout their careers, especially early on. The Flyers have made a point of growing a strong culture in the locker room, and there are plenty of players on the roster who he could learn different things from.”always the culture. this guy is so off base with that piece its laughable.
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Flyers are always promoting their culture. It’s the last refuge of a team that has nothing else to sell the fans. Every team has a culture, every single one.
The Flyers are Sabres are copying off of each other and i’m not sure that’s a good thing.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6639471/2025/09/18/sabres-training-camp-thoughts-2025/
Ruff also said culture was “everything” when the Sabres were trying to improve the roster in the offseason. In trading JJ Peterka for Michael Kesselring and Josh Doan, the Sabres got two strong locker room pieces who are difficult to play against. Ruff also mentioned Justin Danforth and Mason Geertsen as two signings that fall into that same bucket. Ruff is clear that he wants the team to be better defensively, and he wants a hardworking team that is a pain to play against.
After all the bullshit even Ruff admits : “Talk is cheap,” Ruff said. “We’re going to have to just win games.” The article could’ve just posted this and saved 1000 words.
Flyers_01
ParticipantHere you go. A pro-Jett article that advocates him making the the opening night roster in 2025. I almost expected FlyerFrank’s name in the byline.
His main argument is in the opening line : Jett Luchanko started last season in the NHL, and there’s no reason that he shouldn’t do the same this year.
The 2024 13th overall pick impressed John Tortorella & Co. in training camp last season, and due to the lack of center depth on the roster at the time, got a look with the big club to begin the season. While he ultimately got sent to the OHL after appearing in just four games, the 18-year-old centerman didn’t look out of place in just over 56 minutes of action.
Come on, how can Ryan Gilbert expect anyone to take the article seriously after posting that? He was abysmal. There was a reason he only played 4 games and watched the 5 before they could claim they gave him the 10 game tryout and it wasn’t because he “didn’t look out of place” and there’s plenty of evidence that the hype of him making the team was more fiction than fact.
There are bound to be injuries throughout the season, and if Luchanko progresses well — or maybe just doesn’t regress — he could see himself centering the second line if one of the Flyers’ top pivots goes down. Hell, he could move up the lineup anyway if the Flyers need speed and a spark.
We’ve already moved on from should he make the team to Flyers 2nd line pivot.
Flyers_01
ParticipantIt seems hit or miss as to whether my posts show or not. Had to do a complete repost below
Flyers_01
ParticipantWhat’s with the site as recent post just disappearing.
Like predicted Andrae sent down. Imagine him being one of the names mentioned why they didn’t draft Buium. NHL ready flahr said last year. Granted he didn’t do anything to stand out or separate himself from the pack. Looks like another wasted 2nd rd pick. Thouh where the flyers are at he should be in the lineup over juulson and gilbert, maybe zamula.
2016-2022 2nd rd picks: Labarge, hart, allison, ratcliff, ginning, brink, andrae, Samu. Add helge. Not very impressive.
The Flyers have no clue where they are at and never have.
https://x.com/BroadStBull/status/1965797173922283577
CEO Dan Hilferty: “Now we’re adding and you only add when you think you’re in the playoff conversation.”
They are loading up for the playoffs (or is it the rebuild?) and you know what the Flyers think about small defensemen in the playoffs.
It’s hard to keep track of which lie they push on any given day.
Flyers_01
ParticipantOnce again, while he made good defensive decisions, he really didn’t display much risk taking. It’s impossible to know for sure if Luchanko is in danger of being sent to junior at the moment. But if he’s going to make the Flyers roster this season, more scoring upside has to be shown over the next few games.
If they carry 14 forwards, then it’s between Jett and Bump for #14. All this is academic if a forward gets hurts before the opener. They all make it then unless it’s one of them that gets hurt. All you have to do is be able to read a depth chart. Luchanko didn’t display enough risk taking? Tocchet literally said last night the Flyers are playing with too much risk. Listen to the post game presser. Jett is a responsible player. People are applying Top 6 standards when the team only needs competent 4th line play from him. Do no harm. He’s delivering on that. Yes, send the guy back to juniors, he’s listening to the coach and not a hockey blogger!
In the meantime, Zeev Buium was a -4 in his pre-season debut and three of those goals were on him. He’s making Helge Grans look like Rod Langway.
Eh, everyone’s got an opinion. I guess we’ll see how it all plays out. I agree with you that he’ll make the team, just not the reasoning why. Just more data points.
A little sensitive on Zeev it seems though with him playing his 1st preseason game.
Jett on the other hand is playing his 2nd full preseason after making the team out of camp last year (as the youngest flyer ever in history in case you didn’t know) and playing in the AHL playoffs. It’s a shame he pooped the bed after all that hype last year. More should be expected of him.
There’s no pressure on Zeev right now or on the ones who drafted him. The pressure is all on DB and Jett. If he’d been drafted by a better franchise he would be just another prospect in the pipeline that nobody outside the org cared about and free to develop on his own timeline whereas on the Flyers they expect him to be their #1 center sooner rather than later, which, imo, would be a disaster if it happens at any point.
Flyers_01
ParticipantNo, but he didn’t progress it either. Poor ownership, management, decision making and drafting set the franchise back. It’s going to take a few more years to climb out of it too!
Some people are questioning all those 8 year contracts handed out. It’s all about the timeline and what appears to be a scattershot approach towards building towards a future contending team.
Having that much money allocated to two players in their mid-30s could be a problem. By that point, they could be third-liners—perhaps still capable of 20-goal seasons, but with a regressed all-around impact.
That kind of inefficient spending can severely limit a team’s ceiling. Instead of being able to add a top-four defenseman, for example, the Flyers may not have the funds to make that happen.Flyers_01
ParticipantAt the same time, Luchanko gained a second opportunity to show his offensive toolkit with Tippett and Grebenkin after a quiet game in Hershey.
Once again, while he made good defensive decisions, he really didn’t display much risk taking. It’s impossible to know for sure if Luchanko is in danger of being sent to junior at the moment. But if he’s going to make the Flyers roster this season, more scoring upside has to be shown over the next few games.
Oh nooo ….. Is this the same guy that DB said blew them away from day 1 last year and is why he made the team?
2024 – “Going into training camp, I never thought he had much of a chance [to make the team], more of an outside chance, small outside chance, to be honest. But he has blown us away from Day 1. The speed is one thing that really jumped out, top-end NHL speed already at such a young age; that’s impressive,” Briere said.
Did that player leave the building when Torts left? Anyway, DB and the Flyers PR dept have to much invested in this kid, i still can’t see them sending him down.
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