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  • in reply to: Flyers Off Season Discussion: #23665
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    in reply to: Flyers Line Combinations #23643
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    Tocchet might want 2 scoring lines and a checking line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Zegras-Tippett
    Dvorak-Cates-Brink

    Tocchet might want 3 balanced lines and put his three best right hand shots on right wing. He can do that.

    Bump-Couturier-Konecny
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett
    Michkov-Cates-Foerster

    Tocchet might want to leave two lines that worked well late last year together and piece together a third line. He can do that.

    Michkov-Couturier-Konecny
    Foerster-Cates-Brink
    Dvorak-Zegras-Tippett

    A lot of options. None bad.

    None good. Coots is probably a good 3C who can play up and down the lineup at this point in his career on a contender and he may still be the best the Flyers have. He did have a bit of a revival last year as the team fell apart around him but I doubt at age 33 with his injury history that if they lean on him to hard that he’ll produce and more importantly, stay healthy.

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    In each of the two previous campaigns, he topped the 30-goal mark despite missing 22 games due to injuries in 2022-23 and a half-dozen games the next year.
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    However, there is one legitimate concern with the player. Konecny’s all-out style play is a necessity for him to be effective.

    It makes you wonder how long his body will hold up as he starts that 8 year contract. Will he still be the same player in 3 years or will he be in decline?

    in reply to: Jett Luchanko Thread #23463
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    Did you read who actually wrote the article?

    No other opinion on Jett, Jetts treatment by the org, or Jett’s future?

    Yes, i screwed up but it wasn’t worth even going back and editing the post. Bill wrote the first article and he posted both articles in the thread.

    Other than me misattributing the article, thoughts?

    in reply to: Jett Luchanko Thread #23409
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    So much for all the Jett hype. Maybe the poor kid, if not incessantly hyped up and used as a pawn, can be properly developed. It’s a shame he wasn’t drafted by a team run by professionals.

    in reply to: Flyers Off Season Discussion: #23406
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    Don’t forget that FLA team is better as a team than the sum of its’ parts.

    Have you seen their parts? How many teams have better parts than the Panthers?

    Nobody is disputing you need team buy-in, but that goes for every team. It’s not unique to the Panthers as i mentioned in an earlier post.

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    Not implying any correlation one way or the other, but it should also be pointed out that 3 months after the Flyers trade Claude Giroux, “culture change” became the franchise’s message of choice.

    “If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table.”

    The Flyers have neither the skill nor the front office so all they can do is pound the table.

    in reply to: Jett Luchanko Thread #23256
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    Unless he blows the doors off everyone at camp, he should go back to Juniors. He did NOT accomplish this last preseason. What I saw was a kid who started to get overwhelmed towards the end of camp as teams started to ramp up their intensity, then I saw a kid who was completely overmatched at the NHL level before being benched and ultimately sent down when the team couldn’t hide it anymore. Torts either got entranced by his obvious speed and it blinded him to all the other shortcomings, or the team was trying to save face when they didnt pick Zeev Buium because Andrae was already on the roster.

    He produced 6 assists in the AHL playoffs, though for the most part completely disappeared against Hershey. One would think that a high pick who is supposedly NHL ready would look a lot better than he did when, once again, the intensity ramped up.

    My hope for his is that he somehow gets traded out of Guelph to a team that can contend, where he doesn’t have to be the sole decent player on his roster. This is one of those instances where the 19 year old rule hurts a player. I wonder if Europe is an option?

    One thing for sure is that I don’t think he is NHL ready. Hopefully he surprises everyone and makes me eat my words.

    That was such a bullshit excuse by Briere and if he truly thinks that way, pure incompetence. Andrae was never looked at as a future franchise defenseman, Buium was and is projected to be that. They weren’t competing for the same roster spot. Buium is also 6′ despite the size comment.

    Flyers were drafting for perceived need, instead of BPA. As it is, both #1 center and #1 defense still need to be desperately addressed.

    It felt like to me they were trying to save face because if anyone truly thought Jett was ready for the NHL last year, they were incompetent talent evaluators but that is possible. Remember Torts wanted TDA because he passed the “eye test”, until he played for the Flyers. Torts was instrumental in Drysdale also because he also passed the “eye test” until he came to the Flyers. I think we’re seeing a theme behind the Flyers poor roster decisions over the last few years. Meanwhile the analytics department are collecting checks on the beach.

    in reply to: Flyers Off Season Discussion: #23190
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    It’s also true some top rated players in the league haven’t won Cups either. The Flyers clearly need another Top 4 Dman. No question about that. Willing to find out what Zegras can do as the offensive 1C which he clearly will be. It’s a team game. The Flyers will be noticeably better this year.

    True. It takes more than just talent but it can’t be done without it. The Flyers tend to forget that.

    in reply to: Flyers Off Season Discussion: #23172
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    Every team has their own version of culture, it’s just nobody cares because they aren’t the reigning Stanley Cup winner.

    Like the Avalanche who won a few years ago have their culture if you google it : hard work and winning mentality. lol. Who knew? who cares? Turns out the Panthers aren’t unique in having culture or in how they define it. You win you get the puff pieces.

    Same google search changing one word.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=florida+panthers+team+skill&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1155US1155&oq=florida+panthers+team+skill&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiPAjIHCAIQABiPAtIBCDUwMjRqMGo5qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    Skill, coaching, execution. Without the skill and the coaching they are the Buffalo Sabres no matter how much everyone loves each other. Without Barkov, Ekblad, Tkachuk, Bob, and even Maurice are they successful no matter how often they have group hugs and hit people? No.

    Winning the Stanley cup takes a lot of different things coming together at the right time, Skill (the cornerstones and supporting players), coaching, execution, and sacrificing for the team.

    Let’s get our MacKinnon/Makar, Barkov/Ekblad, etc before putting the culture cart before the horse because without that, the rest is just something that comes out of the other end of the horse.

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