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look at the bright side, they will be able to get him signed to a cheap ext
Well he does play the right way and just oozes culture. That’s going to cost them.
Another 35% on the Faceoffs for the team, they did that just last week as well. It’s to bad Zegras, who is listed as a center everywhere, can’t help them in the faceoff circle. Oh well, faceoffs are overrated, who needs to win them. Same with centers, just convert them all to wingers, who needs them.
Zegras has cooled off significantly in his last 10 games after the hot start. Not that Zegras isn’t a good winger but he probably isn’t as great as they thought a month ago and definitely not the center they really need. It will be interesting to see the $$$ Danny gives him on top of the standard 5 year NMC he gives everyone.
https://www.hockeydb.com/nhl-attendance/att_graph.php?tmi=7439
It looks like the fans aren’t buying the fake “rebuild” anymore.
Attendance at Flyers games have taken a nose dive to be their lowest in 3 years.
The front office needs to show something to the fans and are failing.
It’s a good thing for the players that half of them are on NMC contracts for the next 5 years.
Risto, who has already missed more games than he’s played the last 3 years, only lasted 1 game and 2 shifts after returning from his latest injury. Not counting his 2 shifts tonight he’s on pace for a little over 20 games played this year. Hopefully McDonald didn’t make the trip to the AHL yet.
Already on one of the worst contracts in the league and a player who seemingly gets injured every time he laces up the skates, he is considered a core player for the Flyers.
Once the bodies of aging players who take a lot of physical punishment start breaking down, it’s time to move on but the Flyers keep doubling down on him.
they both will at some point as all coaches and GM’s do
the flyers do not have mike tomlin type history to keep someone around that long. Shit Clarke was canned
Dan Snider never fired Clarke, that was his son Jay. Dan then fired Jay and rehired Clarke who served 19 total years as GM, not including Senior VP, etc. He retired on his own terms citing burnout and fatigue.
Tocchet wasn’t fired from his last job, he went to the team that threw the most money at him, on his own terms.
Hell, even Torts probably would’ve finished his current contract if DB had a choice in the matter. Results on the ice be damned.Short of an extremely public meltdown like Torts or DB being fired first, my guess is Toc finishes out the contract at which point he will be 66 years old.
Unless fans stop coming to games en masse DB’s job is safe for the next few years.Go team culture!
Bill when it eventually happens, who gets fired first Tocchet or Briere?
Not Bill but i can’t imagine either getting fired.
Torts. As horrible as he was in pretty much every possible way a coach can be except in dealing with the press was in no danger of losing his job. The press loved him and we got puff pieces from the 4 nations tournament about how people didn’t know “the real tortorella” who was kind to puppies and helped little old ladies across the street. Plus he wanted to bring back the “Flyers culture”. Even after it became publicly known he abused York and told the world he didn’t want to coach this team DB still lamented he wasn’t able to bring Torts back for another year.
Fletcher. He didn’t get fired for being bad at his job either. He got fired for promising results and not being media friendly. You can’t be “all in” and “bias for action” and still end up out of the playoffs.
Jones and DB are much more media friendly than Fletcher. Who can forget Jones and DB at the airport carrying Michkov’s sticks and looking like the 3 amigos. So relatable and much more available than Fletcher ever was. They also haven’t promised anything so their is really no moment to hold them accountable. By labelling everything as a “rebuild” it doesn’t really matter what they do. Half the fanbase will give them unlimited rope while calling the other half negadelphians for pointing out the inconstancies. It’s only when the entire fanbase unites against them that it’s a problem.
Tocchet. See Torts. Short of dousing himself in gasoline and lighting the match like Torts, it is unlikely that he will be fired as long as he keeps talking about culture and accountability. Even though Tocch left behind a FEMA level disaster in Vancouver he came out smelling like a rose.
The goal here is to be like Mike (Tomlin). Just good enough not get the elite talent you need and just bad enough to never be expected to win a playoff game. As the steelers have shown. Fan bases will wait nearly forever as long as you play enough meaningful regular season games and don’t have the expectations that elite talent brings.
Tony D was productive as a flyer. 40+ points. The assistant GM raved about him until he didnt, then wanted him gone. Briere is a Putz.
The EC is so bad. with the Rangers being the exception, pretty much every team is in the mix.
looking forward to danny boy getting that 4th line center and bottom pair Dman to solidify the cup run.
Just how Bettman wants it. More gate revenue in a gate revenue driven league.
The Flyers have the 3rd most OT games in the league (16) and 3rd most shootouts (8). 23 points from OT and the second most points from shoot outs with 13 (5-3). Without the early season shoot out wins, the Flyers are the Rangers.
Andrae – Maybe the Flyers “to important to the team to trade” partner might have something to do with his poor showing. At least he’ll be back on IR before the end of the week.
TDA. It wasn’t so long ago the Flyers were turning themselves into pretzels trying to explain how great a player he was and how all his problems were overblown and he was worth the 3 draft picks. The first NHL player to have his contract bought out 2x. DB and Flahr were here for that. He get’s kicked out of the NHL, then get’s kicked out of the KHL, and of course comes back to the NHL and scores against the Flyers.
His contract that Flahr signed him to was such an outlier that the Flyers are responsible for roughly 40% of TDA’s CAREER EARNINGS.
[Hockey News Hub] This explains why Tony DeAngelo left SKA via MatchTV (translated)
byu/Perryplat199 inhockeyRasmus Ristolainen (upper body) is on IR. He did not accompany the team on the current road trip.
Risto over the last 3 years
played 107 games
missed 106 games and counting indefinitely. What reason would he have to be on the roadtrip. Proof of life?Widely recognized as one of the worst contracts in the NHL. 0 playoff games played in his 13 yr career
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10116169-the-worst-contracts-on-every-nhl-team-for-the-2023-24-seasonAnother core Flyers player that DB doesn’t want to trade.
Flyers’ rebuild timeline remains unclear as team reaches mediocrity
The Flyers now have several players locked into long-term, no-trade contracts through at least the 2030 season, including forwards Travis Konecny, captain Sean Couturier, Christian Dvorak, Owen Tippett, and defenseman Travis Sanheim. They also have defenseman Cam York locked up until the 2030 season; however, he does not have a no-trade clause in his contract, according to Puckpedia.com, nor does center Noah Cates, who is signed until the 2029 season.
The Flyers have seven roster spots locked up long-term. Along with this, the Flyers are likely to re-sign newly acquired center/wing hybrid Trevor Zegras, who is currently leading the Flyers in points, to a long-term deal. Matvei Michkov is also another untouchable, according to the Flyers, so he can be penciled into the future long-term as well. Along with Michkov, forward Tyson Foerster (24) is another player that the Flyers are not looking to move on from any time soon.
Even if the Flyers wanted to take a step back it’s to late. With the number of existing long-term contracts and impending long-term contracts, half the team is locked up or will be locked up through 2030. Anyone with trade value has a long term contract, most with no trade clauses. Ristolainen will finish his career in the most Risto and Flyer way possible. As a Flyer defenseman on LTIR.
Other than Martone coming up this is probably your team for the next 3-5 years. Maybe he can be a franchise center because Dvo sure as hell isn’t it.
ever notice how JJ and Doucher are not very complimentary towards MM unlike last year. What has changed?
only a fn idiot head coach would move MM from right to left wing. All to accommodate brink and tippet. The fact briere seems to be on board with the head coach is telling.
John Tortorella’s Role for the Flyers Only Intensifies After His Press Box Visit
Tortorella was not present behind the bench and it was later revealed that he was sitting side-by-side with Daniel Brière. The Flyers got heavily outplayed, the likes that we haven’t seen a Tortorella-led team play in recent weeks, but somehow managed an overtime point.
The same thing happened the following game against Buffalo but with Brière traveling elsewhere, Tortorella watched from the locker room instead. He did make his return behind the bench in their last game against Pittsburgh.Remember 2023 when DB let Torts play GM, and let someone else coach the team, the job he was paid to do? What competent team let’s their coach spend the game in the locker room instead of coaching the team? I have not heard of any other team, other than this DB led team, letting their healthy coach, do this.
The stupid shit this team has done under DB and Torts was legion including Torts essentially quitting while DB whined about wanting him to come back but not being able to bring him back. I feel that Tocch has the same free reign Torts had.
There was zero need for Noah Juulsen to fight Jack McBain midway through the third period. Actually, it wasn’t so much the fight itself. It was the initial roughing penalty to preceded the fight. Yes, Juulsen was defending Drysdale. However, midway through the third period of a two-goal game is not the time to leave your team shorthanded.
The Juulsen penalty was a must-kill. It wasn’t. Guenther’s power play tally gave Utah life. Before that, the third period was under control. Now Philly was in hang-in mode. They still should have won, 5-3.The Flyers and their old time hockey mentality.
The lineup decisions were crap as well. Whether you might win an extra game or two in Jan. of a throwaway year is irrelevant. Play Zegras exclusively at center because that’s where you need to know if he can play long term and Michkov at RW because that’s where he needs to be long term. If Brink has to play his off wing than so be it. One of those is face of the future for the franchise and he’s basically been told to eat crap and smile all year from the coach.
I hate the Michkov narrative this FO/coach keeps putting out. I am not as concerned about his point production as his usage and TOI. Let the kid learn from his mistakes and stop trying to put a round peg in a square hole. The issues with Michkov are overblown by the coach. One might say Tocch has a bug up his posterior regarding Michkov. His underlying metrics are some of the best on the team.
