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6-foot-5, 225 – enough said. did “jonesy” make this trade?
my how hunter mac has fallen. poor “jonesy”
and led his team in penalty minutes. He was born to be a Flyer.
all one can do is laugh. more flyers nonsense
I guess team Canada might as well not go to the Olympics. How will they ever cope. Sidney Crosby must be beside himself that they won’t be able to replace the transcendent talent that is Tyson Foerster.
In a playoff position and yet one game out of last place. Same number of points after the same number of games as 2023 when they were also only one game out of last place.
Speaking of the Islanders, that Schaefer is a great example of an 18 year old who forced his way onto the team. Danny should take note what that looks like instead of making a farce out of Jett being the youngest player ever to wear a flyers jersey. That’s been such a joke the last 2 years it’s embarrassing. 3rd times the charm they say and eventually Danny will probably get it right.
Flyers are :
27th in goals
20th in PP (which while still bad is still better than the Torts years. At least they won’t be setting another NHL record this year, probably.)
29th in Shots/game
26th in Shots against/game
while still rocking a .890 sv%They have some nice prospects they’ve taken in the past three drafts, but yes, lets see how that plays out with those kids. And another yes, having elite talent helps you win Cups, no question, but in a salary cap world, 99.99% of the time you have to acquire them via the draft, which means you typically have to finish near the bottom of the league. As I said, you can’t have it both ways. Dallas doesn’t have any “superstars”, in my opinion, yes they have great players but they don’t have McDavid or MacKinnon on their team. They just slowly drafted well and they’ve been very competitive for awhile now. If you can’t get a superstar, be more like the Dallas Stars.
Dallas made the extremely rare Jack Eichel type move with former #2 overall draft pick CENTER Tyler Seguin 10+ years ago who instantly became the Stars franchise center but i guess that doesn’t count?
Considered one of the 5 worst trades for the Bruins because they gave up a young #1 center. Bruins ended up missing the playoffs 2 out of the next 3 years with none of the players they got in return panning out long term. Safe to say they regretted moving on from the #2 overall pick of the draft.
The anchor player makes everyone better. The Flyers don’t have that guy, they don’t want to draft that guy. They can only hope that someone else doesn’t want their #1 center, he wants to come to the Flyers, and the Flyers can make the best offer.
As mentioned, everyone has nice prospects, just like everyone has culture.
So, two points out of first place in the Metro, I did not see that happening at any point in the season after Thanksgiving. 😵💫
I expected them to be better this year but not THIS much better. I’m truly impressed.
And 2 points out of last place. The metro is 5 points from top to bottom, just how Bettman wants it. Every crappy team is overperforming based on the standings right now. Bluejackets are positioned to take a run at the Metro. lol.
Flyers are :
27th in goals
20th in PP (which while still bad is still better than the Torts years. At least they won’t be setting another NHL record this year, probably.)
29th in Shots/game
26th in Shots against/game
while still rocking a .890 sv%If the Flyers weren’t best in the league at shoot outs so far this year at 5-0, they would be last in the division. This is sounding alot like the hubris of 2023 when their record overperformed their play. Who could forget Danny boy declaring that his goal going forward was the playoffs. Yet here we are 2 years defending his failures and having collective amnesia.
https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/nhl-standings-in-november-2023
Look at that 31 points in 25 games in 2023 just like 2025. Oh my god. How did that 2023 team not go on a deep play off run! How was Torts not the hand down Jack Adams winner that year! lol. And once again 2 points out of last place ahead of the BJ.
The Flyers aren’t rebuilding, they were never trying to rebuild. They have been trying to retool to make the playoffs every year, they are just bad at it and are hiding behind the word “rebuild” which is falls apart if anyone bothers to look. Hell even Torts gave up on the team which was his last shot of coaching anything more than a beer league when he realized they needed to actually gut the team.
Stockholm syndrome is rampant among fans who don’t want to hear that they are no closer to a cup than 3 years ago. I get that living in the moment with the blinders on makes people happy but it’s not based on the reality of what it takes to be a contender.
They have made no long term progress towards being a cup contender but as long as the fans have some fresh faces to cheer for, they don’t care so why should the Flyers decision makers?
There is zero chance Jones and Briere are going anywhere, any time soon. They’re just starting the process of re-tooling the club and building some youth through the draft. Is there a long ways to go, yes, absolutely, their center depth is almost nonexistent, but they’re heading in the right direction with youth. Aren’t the Flyers one of the youngest teams in the league?
You may be right on DB and Jones but some are now questioning the, as you accurately call it, re-tool which has been misleadingly called a rebuild for 2.5 years. DB has been here for 3 offeseasons and 3 drafts, there’s a reason the center depth is nonexistant and he’s the reason. Jett is projected to be a 3rd line center and that is his crown jewel. How can they be headed in the right direction when their only plan for addressing the hard positions which DB has neglected is praying to the heavens that a franchise center or franchise Dman are available for trade, the Flyers are able to make the best offer, and they want to come here? Good luck. Doesn’t sound so much different than Fletcher. Hayes was the best center available at the time and they paid whatever it took to get him. Does DBs plan sound much different?
https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/what_is_the_state_of_the_flyers_rebuild/s1_16958_43119476
The Flyers have not undergone a full “rebuild” under Briere and Jones, even though the duo has not been afraid to use the word in the media. The Flyers have gone more in the direction of a “retool on the fly” under the new regime, holding on to younger assets and players that preceded the regime change.
Once thought to have gone the way of the dodo, full rebuilds have resurfaced recently as a formidable option for reigniting franchises in turmoil. Due to the early successes of the Anaheim Ducks, Chicago Blackhawks, and San Jose Sharks during the 2025-26 campaign, it has left many questioning the path the Flyers have taken since the new regime took the reins of the front office more than 18 months ago.I feel the end for this regime is getting closer as multiple outlets are now questioning the Flyers after being in lockstep through the New Err of Orange – Tortorella edition.
What do you get the rudderless franchise that has everything for the holidays? A partnership with a casino of course! The Mohegan will part of all digital and in game advertising while offering multiple promotions at the rink as well as offering exclusive Flyers parlays. The gambling scandals may be more entertaining than the on ice product.
flyers do a great job at developing and bringing along dman. would dahlin flourish in philly?
I dont think they will move martone. MM 100% they will move for a #D like hughes.
Remember tocchet played for the flyers when they hated russians. he has that ingrained in him as well lol!!!
That made me laugh. Flyers have spent more on trying to buy a defense than probably anyone else in the history of the NHL.
Speaking of Russians poor Greb. It’s got to be humiliating being sat for NicD and that awesome 4th line. NicD who doesn’t even have a SOG all year. That kid needs to get as far away from the Flyers and Tocchet as he can ASAP.
Rather move heaven and earth for Dahlin, then Hughes. I believe once he gets out of BUF, he will be a perennial Norris top 3 candidate. Maybe Briere can start by offering the greatest 3rd line in hockey as the foundation of the trade. I just don’t see BUF being satisfied with prospects and picks. I would try to avoid including Michkov or Martone in a trade, but I would think about depending on what other assets are involved.
If you truly believe that then he is worth more than either Michkov or Martone. Norris caliber dmen are worth more than good/potentially good wingers. They could always try to draft one but that’s crazy talk. Everyone knows the only way to get your #1 center and #1 dman is to trade for them, nobody actually does a rebuild.
he has not done an amazing job.
he is riding the coattails of a goalie having a career year so far; does that sound familiar? 23/24 he also rode the coattails of some players having career years. that year is an outlier for his entire coaching career.
I wonder who will last longer, Danny or Tocchet.
its not clear he isn’t a good fit at center as they never game him any chance to find out. that is what a smart rebuilding organization would have done.
Yea, you can’t count 2 games as “giving him a chance”. Is him playing winger the best fit in the short term while trying to win this year? Possibly but that just reflects the total disconnect with what they are saying vs what they are doing because they need to find out if he can play center for the long term even if playing winger this year gives them a short term boost.
With the Flyers only being 1 point out of last place it’s scary how far they could fall if he wasn’t doing a good job. But seriously everyone is in the mix, it’s november and the overtime point system is keeping everything close as the NHL prefers. What should be scary is that the Flyers are one of the worst offensive teams in the league even with that offensive 6 goal outburst the other day. Without that they might be the worst and as mentioned, without Vlader playing way way way beyond anything he’s ever done before so far this season, there’d be hope for a top 3 draft pick.
God forbid they actually try to do a rebuild and draft a center like Bedard or a top defenseman but it’s easier to bullshit about rebuilding than doing what CHI did.
But hey, i hear the Flyers are going to trade half the team for Quinn Hughes because apparently the Flyers have so many great picks and players Vancouver would be fools to say no.
Flyers reportedly interested in acquiring Quinn Hughes from Canucks
The Flyers will try every way but the right way to build a team and interestingly enough they keep calling their way “the right way” even as it continues to fail.
You play with the team you’re given. Considering what a crappy lineup he has, he’s actually done an amazing job having them be competitive. During the 2023/24 season in Vancouver he had some higher-end offensive guys, they were +56 in goal differential, they finished 7th in GF and 5th in GA, again, you coach they guys your given. As for Zegras, he’s already been shifted to the wing, with 289 games under his belt and this being his sixth season, it’s clear he’s not a good fit at center, long term.
Or maybe Tocchet is given to much credit for reaching the playoffs 2 times in 9 years. If you want to give him credit for the good year, then he deserves credit for the bad year that followed.
https://sports.yahoo.com/article/flyers-hire-rick-tocchet-analyzing-190007180.html
As recently as March of this year, Tocchet admitted to trying to “re-program” Elias Pettersson, even after the star Swede scored 102 points under his watch just over a year prior.
“You’ve got to play north hockey. Regroup hockey, taking the puck back, won’t win in the NHL,” Tocchet had said. “I think sometimes Petey likes to regroup, slow the game down. I’m not sure how many years ago doing that might’ve worked, but now you have to play a more north style, and we’re just trying to re-program his brain when it comes to that, and he’s buying into that. That’s why I think he’s getting better at that, but there is another level for us and our team.”
Pettersson, of course, scored only 45 points last season, marking easily the worst full season of his NHL career from an offensive standpoint.
And, speaking of Pettersson, another mark against Tocchet is the widely-reported rift between the former and J.T. Miller, which culminated in Miller’s trade to the New York Rangers on Jan. 31.
It was a problem when Boudreau arrived in Vancouver, and it was a problem when Tocchet arrived in Vancouver.
But it only boiled over under Tocchet’s watch, and the Canucks failed to address it before first setting half their season on fire.Sounds a bit like what he is trying to do with Michkov. The point is he doesn’t care if a guy scores a 100 points if it’s not his way.
Seravalli critiqued the Flyers’ urge to take steps forward in 2025–26. A glass-half-empty way of looking at it is that they’ve returned to murky-middle status: not good enough to make the playoffs, but not bad enough to pick high in the draft.
Seravalli describes them as, “A team that’s not capable of getting to the bottom, that has not necessarily orchestrated this order correctly.” He continued, “Your only job this year, instead of trying to be competitive, should be to gain one of those five to six franchise-changing players that exist in the 2026 NHL Draft.”He went on to say that the Flyers’ season will be a failure should they fail to make that draft-day splash. That starts with their offseason. “They got a little ahead of their skis in terms of trying to inch this forward in a year where you didn’t need to. It’s an unforced error.”
No matter what you may think of Seravalli, this is the first time in 3.5 years someone on Comcast’s payroll has had the guts to say something like this.
The rebuild is just starting, don’t buy into their verbal diarrhea about it being over and them hoping the worst is behind them. They secretly want to finish at the bottom again, they just won’t outwardly say it because they still want fans to believe. Exciting times…Lets Go Flyers!!!
Or they are just incompetent ex-flyers over their heads feeding at the trough as long as they can. Say what you want about CHI but they did an actual rebuild instead of a rebrand, were honest with their fans, and now have one of the best young exciting centers in the league, lots of young possibly elite talent on rookie contracts and a clean cap sheet to market and build around. The Flyers have a 32 yr old coming off of multiple back surgeries in the middle of a very bad 8 year contract and multiple other 8 year contracts. Their crown jewel prospect at center is a projected 3rd line energy player who was overdrafted but he is a 200 ft player who lives in the weight room. Go Flyers?
The Flyers have done everything possible to avoid being in position to draft a Bedard type player. Hell it took Torts 3 years to realize that he couldn’t yell and berate the team into the playoffs and once he did, he flipped the team the middle finger and rode off into the sunset. He literally said he doesn’t want to coach a team in the position the Flyers are in which lends credence that either they are incompetent or delusional.
It’s been 3 drafts and the foundational pieces should be there and there are none. There is nobody in the system that is going to ride in and save the day at the top of the lineup for the next 10-15 years. They actively avoided drafting a potential franchise dman. Michkov and Martone may end up being good/great complementary pieces but that #1 center and #1 dman are giant black holes for the next GM to worry about.
Is Bonk even still alive? Him and Risto seem to be in witness protection.
Also Zegras and Drysdale both finish their 2nd contracts this year, they will both be playing for new 8 year contracts.
https://onpattison.com/news/2025/nov/16/fourth-and-long-flyers-bottom-line-may-need-a-makeover/
Now, with the Flyers believing they can make it into the playoff field, there’s more of an onus of a need to provide more from the fourth line.
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All told, being 2-3-1 in those six games isn’t awful, but what is a noticeable trend from both is concerning – the Flyers look slow and gassed by the third game. They shouldn’t be. They are the fourth-youngest team in the NHL, so they should have reserve fuel that most other teams do not.And yet, they don’t.
