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Two – two. Best of 3. Whoever wins game 5, wins the series. It’s going to be difficult to win 2 straight.
Montreal just went from drafting 1st overall to the Conference Finals in how many years You’re missing something. Montreal had all of their first rounders plus 1st rounders they acquired when they did their rebuild. The Habs could control the narrative due to being able to manipulate their positioning in the draft, to fall further down and draft in the top 5. The Leafs don’t have this for the next 2 years. They can’t just bottom out and get a top 5 pick by tanking and playing their AHLer’s. Those picks are gone. No one’s gifting you a top 5 pick without a substantial piece going the other way. Damage control for 2 years in necessary. Keep those picks later in the draft and deny your conference foes a star player due to fucktard Treliving. The Leafs need to play their cards, this year. Run Matthews with whoever they draft and Knies. Try and salvage a playoff spot, or at least be in contention and keep that pick from being the next Tukka Rask, or Dougie Hamilton. It’s stupid to kill yourself for the vultures to pick your dried bones. Besides, MLS&E will never allow it, due to needing playoff ratings.
The Leafs could be back in contender status in 3-4 years if they sell hard enough and the team would be filled with guys under 25 and on ELC which gives them a lot of flexibility with trades, free agents and contract extensions.
That’s not possible, if you’re giving up top 5 picks 2 years in a row. What makes it any different to sell their top players, namely Woll, Matthews and Nylander? That doesn’t get you 12 picks, at most 5 or 6 and those picks won’t be in the top 10. Sure, you could swap out a couple of your defensemen, like OEL and McCabe and you might get a couple of picks in the later part of the first round. Is that going to get you over the top in 3 or 4 years? Not a chance. You have to keep Knies, so he’s really the only untouchable. Their best bet is swapping players like Cowan for a player like Mason MccTavish. Cowan is going to become a great second line winger, however a McTavish will become a pretty decent second line center. Positional players are important. Building from the Goal outwards. The Leafs have the assets in goal, with or without Woll or Stolarz. The real kicker is finding decent free agents to keep the team afloat for the next 2 years, then they can actually bottom out and grab some top 10 picks. I’m not against moving the 1st overall for the 3rd overall, if it nets a top prospect or another 1st round pick in the top 15. The tearing it down to the foundation and expecting a rebound in 3 to 4 years would be all but impossible. My thoughts are to make your trades, get your draft capital, backfill through free agency and deny the Bruins and Flyers top end transitional players that you’ll spend 20 years competing against. Better to let them pick around 20 and get serviceable players and not star players. You’re beating yourself going forward to allow this to happen. It’s only due to abject stupidity that the Leafs have found themselves in this position. There is a bigger picture here. You can’t be the cause of strengthening your Conference foes, just to tear it down for 4 years and expect a roster of players under 23 to take you to the playoffs. It’s unsustainable.
Yawn…. New day, different shit show on here. Nothing new learned, nothing new to debate about. Name calling….blah, blah, blah. Most of us couldn’t care less. It’s finally summerlike outside, the Stanley Cup playoffs are almost done. The Marlies are entertaining us. The Jays…not so much. One team takes home the big prize, the Stanley Cup. The rest start planning for next year. Leafs? Still figuring out who the coach is, who to draft first, and who to look at in free agency. Soon, the trade market opens up. Meanwhile, we sleep. We can look up and see the Chemtrails and watch for the not so elusive Lone Star Ticks, courtesy of Bill Gates and his Genocidal Maniacs at the World Economic Forum. Then training camp starts and we settle into another season, with many unknowns. It’s the circle of life….for Leafs fans.
Again, this team needs to rebuild. Promote John Gruden, give a few of the Marlies a chance next year and tear it down.
Why this doesn’t work. They don’t own their own 1st rounders for the next 2 years. Bottom out and the Flyers and Boston get to draft top end talent in the first round. Guess what, you’ll be lining up against those two teams 7 or 8 times during the regular season. Did you see, the other day, when the Leafs shipped off a 1st to Carolina to take on the Marleau contract? Guess who they got, Seth Jarvis. So why would you want to subject this at a grander scale going forward? What if both years, they give up top 3 picks? Do you not think that this won’t haunt them? It’s a travesty to go down that road. Yes, you can make trades to get more draft picks, sign free agents to quasi replace those top assets that you must trade for a rebuild. The Leafs can’t allow their team to go to the bottom of the NHL for the next two years. Unless you can find a way to trade for your own 1st rounders, a total rebuild can’t occur. Just more years of wandering in the desert. See the Buffalo Sabres and their 15 years out of the playoffs. Rogers will not allow this to happen, so you might as well get used to a rebuild on the fly.
At least there will be a little more traffic. I’m sure it picks up, once the Playoffs end and the draft gets closer. Free Agency will happen and by the 15th of July, this site will barely move due to summer and all. At least it’s not going to be a morgue in here, since the Leafs won the draft lottery and there’s hope for a brighter future. Besides, the Marlies are also doing great things. Sure, it’s not NHL hockey, but the young players like Cowan and Danford are shining brightly. Learning to win at every level is important for development. Cowan has won it all in Junior, in London. Danford has been close in his time in the OHL. Two decent players that should be good, NHL caliber players for the next 10 years. Cowan as a second line winger and Danford as a 2nd pairing defenseman. Nothing wrong with that, for 2 late 1st rounders.
Congratulations to the Marlies. Heading off to the Calder Cup. Watched that game and they worked their asses off to get to the finals. I liked Danford’s game tonight. He was solid.
They might as well go out and get the best deal for Knies. I’m sure he feels slighted and now won’t trust the management. A quiet auction should occur and if something significant appears, make the trade. I’d like to keep him, but he’ll be off somewhere else, once his contract is over. The Leafs are in no position to compete for a Cup anyways, so just go after draft capital. 2 firsts and prospect should suffice.
I get that the playoffs haven’t finished, but getting the coaching staff set up should be paramount before the draft. You can make deals with teams finished with the playoffs. If a team has a UFA that you want to acquire, you dangle a player to get permission to speak with the UFA. If you can acquire them, you can sign them before anyone else gets a chance.
These fucking captcha’s are driving me nuts today.
Outside of Danford, Cowan and the Russian goalie, there really isn’t much in the way of young talent on the Marlies. Just a group of blue collar guys, trying to win for each other. Nothing wrong with that. If they win the Calder Cup, some might get a longer look at training camp, or maybe another team might take a flyer on one and insist on them as a throw in, if there’s a trade. Honest hockey players, unlike their mercenary cousins who play with the Leafs. The NHL guys, with their big money are glorified performers who’ll probably never go hungry. In reality they see themselves as actors in the big show, performing for the trained seals that pay the ridiculous money to see them do their skills competition. Enjoy these guys on the Marlies who play for the love of the game.
