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underhill14
ParticipantWilly fucking Nylander!!!
PS, why do I have to prove I’m not a robot with every post??!!??!!??
anti spam measure …….
Guess my quippy prose isn’t enough evidence. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
underhill14
ParticipantWilly fucking Nylander!!!
PS, why do I have to prove I’m not a robot with every post??!!??!!??
underhill14
ParticipantFuck the Habs.
And nice to see MiB contribute and post during the game in the thread. Well done MiB!
underhill14
ParticipantMatthews!!!
underhill14
ParticipantI know I like doing line ups, but I am genuinely curious about the holes or Tree & Berubae’s logic if they don’t sign any one else and wait until TDL.
After watching a Joshua video of “what he brings to the Leafs” kinda interview, I get a strange feeling he’s going to be given a chance as the Knies of the second line.
Knies, Matthews, Domi/Marccelli
Joshua, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marccelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Boyd//PezzMcCabe, Tanev
Rielly, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStoli
WollSo that’s how I see the line up as it stands now.
If Rielly gets his shit together, I don’t mind our D at all. G is good for another year but I do think they should lock up Stoli early and trade Woll for a less oft injured solid #2 or #1B type.
Forward group I don’t really mind but there are 2 question marks for me:
1. Domi as 1RW?
2. Marccelli as 1RW?To me the bottom 6 could be wicked good if we had:
Marcelli, Roy, Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz/BoydRobertson, McMann, Kampf, Jarnkrok should all go for cap space and I saw a idea/rumor to trade Robertson for Trochek and I like that idea. He’s a no quit player.
Knies, Matthews, Trochek
Joshua, Tavares, NylanderThat top 6 could be pretty tough to handle with the bottom 6 line up from above. And, moving Jarn, Kampf, Robbie would clear more than enough space for his $5.25m.
So how confident would you fellas feel about this line up going into the playoffs:
Knies, Matthews, Trochek
Joshua/Marccelli, Tavares, Nylander
Joshua/Marccelli, Roy, Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz/BoydMcCabe, Tanev
Rielly, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStoli
WollActually, I trust that line up a helluva lot more than the last 9 seasons. You guys???
Not sure I trust it more or not. Most of the disappointing playoff no shows still remain.
Gonna be another, “lets see what they do in April” year for me. What occurs in the reg season simply wont matter to me.
One thing I know for sure…is with every win, the Marner haters will go on about how he’s not missed, and with every lost the Marner lovers will go on about how its the end of the world.For now, I’m on the Leafs will miss his reg season points…but it wont be the end of the world…or cost them a playoff spot.
Unless Matthews goes down for an extended period of time
Technically there are only two playoff no shows on the team: Marner and an injured Matthews (which I think is a big problem that’s been hidden for seasons).
The bigger problem for me was the bottom 6 not contributing and Stoli getting fucked in the ear by Bennett. I feel both of those issues have been solved in a few ways.
Marner, the dry-haired motivational speaker, is out so I am very interested to see how this all pans out. Don’t care about individual points or winning divisions. I want a playoff team that is just doing their thing during the season and then kicks some some serious ass in the playoffs. Plain and simple. I think this team is closer to that than it has been for a few years.
underhill14
ParticipantIF Joshua works out I share your thoughts that this proposed lineup should be more trustworthy than last few seasons. They need scoring from the back end (more – like they had in round 1 this year although that level may not be sustainable or achievable again) and of course secondary scoring as always.
Thanks for the only response Cushie <thumbsup>
underhill14
Participant$1.8M and change for Nicky Bobby. Meh.
glad it was settle prior to going to arbitration.
does he and Kampf + get traded for Trocheck????Yes guy!!!
underhill14
ParticipantWhat an F’n loser.
Seems to be the 2nd one here, probably by the same person. Who has time in their life for this nonsense?someone envy’s CC handle. like AA
I say enough stupid shit on my own. Fake account seems like overkill
I can confirm the bolded as fact for CC. 😉
underhill14
ParticipantROFL, we all know your playbook by now. This is from whatever page describes what to do when someone makes a point you can’t debate or defend.
Wrong. I could eviserate his and your idiotic headline click bait point of view of events but this is a hockey forum. You started it and I’m ending it. Stick to hockey.
Fuck off UG, you’re a useless tool. You couldn’t eviscerate shit. Pathetic PoS.
I think we should all meet at a public place…see who spouts the same bullshit in-person as they do on the boards. It sure as shit wouldn’t be you, pussy.
underhill14
ParticipantKadri is out there as a name. Send Calgary Hildebeast, Robertson and a prospect or pick to retain some salary, 25%.
Too bad we couldn’t trade for a few years of Patty Kane. Detroit is light on D, send them Rielly for P Kane and a Pick.
Dump Jarn, Kampf, and any other scraps to below the Cap teams.And viola, Cap Compliant and Balanced ready for the playoffs and a fucking CUP!!!
Knies, Mattews, P. Kane
Kadri, Tavares, Nylander
Domi, Roy, Maricelli
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
OEL, Carlo
Benoit, Myers/Danforth/???Stoli
WollDepending on the leftover Cap space look for an upgrade for a bottom RHD…Myers should do
You must be smoking Leafs laced fentanyl to come up with this retarded shit.
Hahaha, of all guys spewing this insult, YOU?!?! With all your hot takes?!?!?! And you had a chance to simply disagree and post your own suggestions, instead typical UG two-year old insult shit.
Hahahahahahahhaahhahhahhahah, get fucked you whinny little bitch. Put your cheeto stained thumb back in your stupid pie-hole and go cry for another month in mommy’s basement wearing your poop stained Marner onesie.
Fucking internet tough guys.
underhill14
ParticipantKadri is out there as a name. Send Calgary Hildebeast, Robertson and a prospect or pick to retain some salary, 25%.
Too bad we couldn’t trade for a few years of Patty Kane. Detroit is light on D, send them Rielly for P Kane and a Pick.
Dump Jarn, Kampf, and any other scraps to below the Cap teams.And viola, Cap Compliant and Balanced ready for the playoffs and a fucking CUP!!!
Knies, Mattews, P. Kane
Kadri, Tavares, Nylander
Domi, Roy, Maricelli
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
OEL, Carlo
Benoit, Myers/Danforth/???Stoli
WollDepending on the leftover Cap space look for an upgrade for a bottom RHD…Myers should do
underhill14
ParticipantSo yesterday was the final nail in the coffin for the HB Leaf thread eh? Good job Putz.
Ek saying a NEW HB is coming, thanks for your patience.
Hurry up and get the bugs out of this shit MIB!!!
Also, UG come on dude, STFU with the incessant negative nancy shit!!! Mancy Marner is getting his monthly cramps in Vegas now, go take him some Midol in the Vegas thread…pop of few while you’re at it, your constant ragging is tired. Please dude, enough.
Sittler is gone.
Salming is gone. (RIP)
Wendel is gone.
Gilmour is gone.
Sundin is gone.
Tucker is gone.
Kadri is gone.
Marner is gone.…and the list goes on.
Move the fuck on!
WHO DO THE LEAFS NEED NOW TO WIN THE FUCKING CUP??? That’s the only relevant conversation filled with subjective opinion on all sides that matters right now. And remember, subjective is on your side too UG.
underhill14
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?
3/4LD = ?I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
I’m pretty sure Maccelli was gotten to be in the top-6 as a Marner-lite replacement. I think Treliving is looking for another top-6 forward but if he fails, my suspicion is that Domi gets that look. Then he should still be seeking to bolster that third line with a properly complimentary checking forward.
With Rielly . . .the simple way I look it is that the problem with defenseman who can’t play defense is always that they can’t play defense. But how much are they giving you in that trade off? Like Jake Gardiner had one year where the trade off was wonderful (I think he was third pairing with Carrick or something like that) – but most other years were absolutely terrible. In the end it wasn’t a trade off anyone wanted to be making.
You take a guy like Bouchard and look at his xG with a star partner like Ekholm and you can see that his xGF and xGA differential was 3.26 – 2.22; when he was with Kulak it was 2.95 – 2.17. Bouchard is exceptionally offensive with poor defensive skills – and he is very puck reliant (ie, if he has the puck he’s pretty good, but without it, we see how bad he is).
Now compare that to Rielly with Carlo and you see 2.91 – 2.07, which is very similar to Bouchard with Kulak. Rielly with Tanev was 2.77 – 1.92 which makes sense when you consider that Tanev is more defensive but less offensive. It would be great if we had a guy like Ekholm, but that was definitely Ken Holland’s masterpiece in Edmonton. It was a brilliant trade.
It’s something we know, but if you had just guys like Tanev, for instance – lots of blocked shots, lots of closed lanes but not a ton of puck retrieval or zone exit passes. Guys like Morgan Rielly – as much as he drives me crazy, too, are a necessary evil. So you insulate them with a guy like Carlo and I think you can potentially maximize their value.
I say this because I have to remind myself of this all the time. Morgan Rielly drives me fucking crazy.
Great post as always Monkey, makes a ton of sense…especially the bolded. 😉
One side of me really thinks D is not the problem…Rielly’s alcohol and coke issues aside, I kid sort of…but the D is really close.
Also, I’m willing to risk a Maccelli experiment on 1st line RW cuz I know Domi did really well there so there’s a back up plan.
I do think a really good 2nd line LW…who could do a 1st line RW duty…is the only missing piece to take next season to the next level.
That’s where I’m at.
underhill14
ParticipantToo much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>
How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:
Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
MyersStolarz
Woll1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?3/4LD = ?
I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???
I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???
underhill14
ParticipantSend Rielly to Van for Jake DeBrusk.
Knies, Matthews, Domi/Macelli
DeBrusk, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Macelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, PezzMcCabe, Tanev
OEL, Carlo
Benoit, Myers/Topi Niemela/Matt BenningAddition by substraction.
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