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Unholy_Goalie wrote:

underhill14 wrote:

Kadri is out there as a name. Send Calgary Hildebeast, Robertson and a prospect or pick to retain some salary, 25%.
Too bad we couldn’t trade for a few years of Patty Kane. Detroit is light on D, send them Rielly for P Kane and a Pick.
Dump Jarn, Kampf, and any other scraps to below the Cap teams.

And viola, Cap Compliant and Balanced ready for the playoffs and a fucking CUP!!!

Knies, Mattews, P. Kane
Kadri, Tavares, Nylander
Domi, Roy, Maricelli
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz

McCabe, Tanev
OEL, Carlo
Benoit, Myers/Danforth/???

Stoli
Woll

Depending on the leftover Cap space look for an upgrade for a bottom RHD…Myers should do

You must be smoking Leafs laced fentanyl to come up with this retarded shit.

Hahaha, of all guys spewing this insult, YOU?!?! With all your hot takes?!?!?! And you had a chance to simply disagree and post your own suggestions, instead typical UG two-year old insult shit.

Hahahahahahahhaahhahhahhahah, get fucked you whinny little bitch. Put your cheeto stained thumb back in your stupid pie-hole and go cry for another month in mommy’s basement wearing your poop stained Marner onesie.

Fucking internet tough guys.

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Kadri is out there as a name. Send Calgary Hildebeast, Robertson and a prospect or pick to retain some salary, 25%.
Too bad we couldn’t trade for a few years of Patty Kane. Detroit is light on D, send them Rielly for P Kane and a Pick.
Dump Jarn, Kampf, and any other scraps to below the Cap teams.

And viola, Cap Compliant and Balanced ready for the playoffs and a fucking CUP!!!

Knies, Mattews, P. Kane
Kadri, Tavares, Nylander
Domi, Roy, Maricelli
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz

McCabe, Tanev
OEL, Carlo
Benoit, Myers/Danforth/???

Stoli
Woll

Depending on the leftover Cap space look for an upgrade for a bottom RHD…Myers should do

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Big23Questions wrote:

So yesterday was the final nail in the coffin for the HB Leaf thread eh? Good job Putz.

Ek saying a NEW HB is coming, thanks for your patience.

Hurry up and get the bugs out of this shit MIB!!!

Also, UG come on dude, STFU with the incessant negative nancy shit!!! Mancy Marner is getting his monthly cramps in Vegas now, go take him some Midol in the Vegas thread…pop of few while you’re at it, your constant ragging is tired. Please dude, enough.

Sittler is gone.
Salming is gone. (RIP)
Wendel is gone.
Gilmour is gone.
Sundin is gone.
Tucker is gone.
Kadri is gone.
Marner is gone.

…and the list goes on.

Move the fuck on!

WHO DO THE LEAFS NEED NOW TO WIN THE FUCKING CUP??? That’s the only relevant conversation filled with subjective opinion on all sides that matters right now. And remember, subjective is on your side too UG.

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monkeypunk wrote:

underhill14 wrote:

Too much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>

How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:

Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz

McCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Woll

1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?

3/4LD = ?

I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???

I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???

I’m pretty sure Maccelli was gotten to be in the top-6 as a Marner-lite replacement. I think Treliving is looking for another top-6 forward but if he fails, my suspicion is that Domi gets that look. Then he should still be seeking to bolster that third line with a properly complimentary checking forward.

With Rielly . . .the simple way I look it is that the problem with defenseman who can’t play defense is always that they can’t play defense. But how much are they giving you in that trade off? Like Jake Gardiner had one year where the trade off was wonderful (I think he was third pairing with Carrick or something like that) – but most other years were absolutely terrible. In the end it wasn’t a trade off anyone wanted to be making.

You take a guy like Bouchard and look at his xG with a star partner like Ekholm and you can see that his xGF and xGA differential was 3.26 – 2.22; when he was with Kulak it was 2.95 – 2.17. Bouchard is exceptionally offensive with poor defensive skills – and he is very puck reliant (ie, if he has the puck he’s pretty good, but without it, we see how bad he is).

Now compare that to Rielly with Carlo and you see 2.91 – 2.07, which is very similar to Bouchard with Kulak. Rielly with Tanev was 2.77 – 1.92 which makes sense when you consider that Tanev is more defensive but less offensive. It would be great if we had a guy like Ekholm, but that was definitely Ken Holland’s masterpiece in Edmonton. It was a brilliant trade.

It’s something we know, but if you had just guys like Tanev, for instance – lots of blocked shots, lots of closed lanes but not a ton of puck retrieval or zone exit passes. Guys like Morgan Rielly – as much as he drives me crazy, too, are a necessary evil. So you insulate them with a guy like Carlo and I think you can potentially maximize their value.

I say this because I have to remind myself of this all the time. Morgan Rielly drives me fucking crazy.

Great post as always Monkey, makes a ton of sense…especially the bolded. 😉

One side of me really thinks D is not the problem…Rielly’s alcohol and coke issues aside, I kid sort of…but the D is really close.

Also, I’m willing to risk a Maccelli experiment on 1st line RW cuz I know Domi did really well there so there’s a back up plan.

I do think a really good 2nd line LW…who could do a 1st line RW duty…is the only missing piece to take next season to the next level.

That’s where I’m at.

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Too much tax talk, but also much better than usual in here! <thumbsup>

How ’bout a serious discussion on the two/three elements left for the Leafs to crush it next season:

Knies, Matthews, ??? (Domi)
???, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Marcelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz

McCabe, Tanev
???, Carlo
Benoit, OEL
Myers

Stolarz
Woll

1RW = ? (Domi IMO)
2LW = ?

3/4LD = ?

I kinda believe if Leafs can dump Rielly and upgrade that LD position, the Leafs’ D is solid as fuck. Better than it’s been in a long, long, time. (If Rielly stays it will still survive, the D was the least of our problems last season). So who is a skull crushing LD the Leafs could trade for???

I think the forward group is only a 2LW away from solid but you could make the argument for a 1RW, P Kane would’ve been so good there…Domi or Marccelli(sp?) can fill that role well enough…I’m feeling Domi will do really well there. So who is the 2LW???

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Send Rielly to Van for Jake DeBrusk.

Knies, Matthews, Domi/Macelli
DeBrusk, Tavares, Nylander
McMann, Roy, Macelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz

McCabe, Tanev
OEL, Carlo
Benoit, Myers/Topi Niemela/Matt Benning

Addition by substraction.

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Dozzer wrote:

underhill14 wrote:

I was enjoying the cry fest a few days ago but UG is fucking relentless. He needs to STFU about it already. It’s done. Marner is gone.

I’m so hoping that when the leafs face the knights this year that Knies just levels Marner lol

Hahaha, thanks cuz that’s my new hope now too….but he has to put it over the glass in fear too!

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Unholy_Goalie wrote:

UG how about you STFU already. He’s traded.

Go spew your Marner jizz fest in the Vegas thread. Marner #93 Vegas Golden Knights.

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Dozzer wrote:

Marner is talented but UG’s crying is making him gone so fucking worth it that I’m loving it lol

I was enjoying the cry fest a few days ago but UG is fucking relentless. He needs to STFU about it already. It’s done. Marner is gone.

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gravyface wrote:

Knies Matthews Macelli
McMann Tavares Nylander
Domi Roy Jarnkrok
Lorentz Loughton Kampf
Pezzetta

Not quite good enough IMO.

McMann is not top 6, Macelli might be. Having 2 question marks in the top 6 is not a good move. My guess is there is one more piece coming in and where there is smoke there is fire: Kadri?!? (or a top 6 RW for Knies/Matthews)

Then the line up could be:

Knies, Matthews, Domi/Macelli
Kadri, Tavares, Nylander
McMann (Cowen), Roy, Macelli/Domi
Lorentz, Laughton, Pezz

That’s a better balance of talent.

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