Rangers: Panarin Trade Analysis

What did drury say last night regarding his issues?

That he hates Tj’s lipstick color.

The rangers really need to jettison Miller and Mika and start over. There is no way to replace Panarins in season production. Not sure why they feel the need to trade Braden Schneider. He is still young and has been playing in hell. Of course Drury is an idiot so Im sure we will get back a 5th rounder for him.

What Drury does with the vacated cap is also a factor. I want JRob. JRob, Greentree, cond 3rd for Panarin (and whatever is needed to acquire Robertson) is easier to digest.

I agree trading Schneider is a mistake.

Can anyone tell me what they see in Schneider? If a team is willing to overpay for him you take it

Playing the kids is scratching Othmann and morrow for a waiver claim and Anton blidh

Posted this in the other thread…

Lets revisit 2 trades…

Brock Nelson, locked up NTC (no team submission), netted the Isles Calum Ritchie, Oliver Kylington, a conditional 1st and a conditional 3rd.
Claude Giroux, NMC (Florida was his choice and it wasnt a secret) the Flyers got Owen Tippett, a 1st and a 3rd. Heck, the Panthers didnt even intend on resigning Giroux, they gave that up for a straight up rental.

Panarin is essentially the same age as those 2 when the trades occurred, and theres no debate that hes the better player between the 2.

So to not get, at the very least, a conditional 1st of some sort (or a conditional 2nd that could be a 1st) and a 3rd as the kicker to Greentree is not good.

What Drury should do with the vacated cap… assuming Trocheck, Schneider, Raddysh, Carrick are moved… is he should monetize it by taking other teams bad contracts, for example, get MTL to pay a 2nd to take on Laine. Get EDM to give us something to take on Mangiapane. Maybe Tampa wants to unload Bjorkstrand. This is where we should be.

picklerick wrote:

Can anyone tell me what they see in Schneider? If a team is willing to overpay for him you take it

Im with you here, key word is overpay. For example, trading Schneider to the Sharks for EDM’s 1st round pick. Other options being if the Sharks want to send Musty or Bystedt for Schneider, I think those are solid options too.

It will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation.

tbnyr94 wrote:

It will be 5 years before we sniff the playoffs again.. and if the GM in this case stands for (General Mismanager) is still here it could be much longer!
You think Yzerman trades a stud winger for a prospect and a 3rd conditional..No way! Imagine in a few years the Bruins trading Pastrnak away for this return even if he also has a NMC. Bruin fans would be out of their mind!
Again Drury created this mess by A – telling the league he wasn’t going to resign him B- Benching the player C just causing all this chaos that never needed to be. He could have waited to the real deadline not said anything try to smooth over the relationship with the players and not created this unnecessary situation.

I dont mind if we dont sniff the playoffs for 5 years as long as this is done correctly.

But do you trust Rangers management to do the right thing? They haven’t exactly instilled confidence in the fan base.

tbnyr94 wrote:

But do you trust Rangers management to do the right thing? They haven’t exactly instilled confidence in the fan base.

Absolutely not. However as I said in the previous thread… even if they dont fire Drury, as long as they fire Ortmeyer and Glass Ill feel like management recognizes the egregious issues that exist in player development on this team.

Ortmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..

tbnyr94 wrote:

Ortmeyer , Tanner Glass..talk about world class skill. What could go wrong with them evaluating talent. I think that’s why fans don’t trust the organization, it’s like how many awful moves that completely backfire do you get? There is no accountability within the organization. Nobody loses their job ..hell Lafreniere gives the puck away every game softly skates back into the zone doesn’t pick up his guy and Boom it’s in the back of the net. What happens? NOTHiNG! Doesn’t miss a shift doesn’t get benched. It’s the Ranger way..

Actually one could argue that people do lose their job…

Coaches:
Quinn, fired. Gallant, fired. Laviolette, fired. Sullivan,…

Management:
Gorton, Fired. Davidson, fired.

Leadership:
Trouba, traded. Kreider, traded. Goodrow, traded. Panarin, traded.

However…
Ortmeyer, Director of Player Development since 2017
Glass, Asst Director of Player Development since 2019

Fuck man. I just lost a whole damn long post I was about to send that I typed painstakingly on my phone. Goodbye

Rick, if u hit the back button, it will still be there to resubmit. Happens to me all the time, but I usually copy anything more than a sentence on here bc it happens constantly

I was talking more of this current iteration of the team. But yeah I get it. Drury does seem to fire a lot of people yet keep his job.
Also interesting is the fact that the supposed mutiny on Drury last year started with Panarin ..involving Trouba, Kreider. Notice who are all gone. Guess we should brush up more on the amateurs and draft at least the next 3 years anyway. There’s no easy retool. Not with this group.

It was funny when the trade came through I kept refreshing the page to see what other pieces we got. I’m like must be our WI-FI conking out because I only see Greentree and a 3rd.

tbnyr94 wrote:

I was talking more of this current iteration of the team. But yeah I get it. Drury does seem to fire a lot of people yet keep his job.
Also interesting is the fact that the supposed mutiny on Drury last year started with Panarin ..involving Trouba, Kreider. Notice who are all gone. Guess we should brush up more on the amateurs and draft at least the next 3 years anyway. There’s no easy retool. Not with this group.

It was funny when the trade came through I kept refreshing the page to see what other pieces we got. I’m like must be our WI-FI conking out because I only see Greentree and a 3rd.

I kept thinking the same thing about the trade… Im sitting here posting… just wait Im sure this is just the early call on the trade, Im sure more is coming… nope.

Well, one more year after this, Miller has a 15 team no-trade and we can get out from that. Fox becomes a 15 team no-trade the same year.

let’s just hope we stick to trading our captains

Unfortunately this is how I expect the games to go in the near future.
Without Panarin driving the play up the ice and the non existent transition game from our very slow and average D. Expect low scoring games. Hell they were putrid with him somehow.
Btw interesting Panarin now saying the Rangers never really offered him a new contract upon him speaking in LA. Belief is he wanted Kings or even go back to Russia. Not sure I believe that.

tbnyr94 wrote:

Unfortunately this is how I expect the games to go in the near future.
Without Panarin driving the play up the ice and the non existent transition game from our very slow and average D. Expect low scoring games. Hell they were putrid with him somehow.
Btw interesting Panarin now saying the Rangers never really offered him a new contract upon him speaking in LA. Belief is he wanted Kings or even go back to Russia. Not sure I believe that.

I dont believe anything anyone is saying when it comes to this trade. There was absolutely NO WAY Panarin was going back to Russia after he had to smuggle his family out of the country because of his political affiliations.

Just gonna deal with it and hope it gets better from here on.

This is a full blown tank, and honestly I hope we get the 2nd overall pick. This way its not on our GM to make the choice between McKenna and Stenberg.

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Think it’s a given will be top 5. If it wasn’t for Quick it would be 5-0 now.At least they are playing hard against a top team in East.
Please get a haul for Trocheck. But I’m not holding my breath. Need to have at least 3 #1 and 2 top prospects before deadline. Already have the 2 #1 and one prospect. Not asking for much…

Let’s not forget in all of this how bad of a coach Sullivan is

tbnyr94 wrote:

Think it’s a given will be top 5. If it wasn’t for Quick it would be 5-0 now.At least they are playing hard against a top team in East.
Please get a haul for Trocheck. But I’m not holding my breath. Need to have at least 3 #1 and 2 top prospects before deadline. Already have the 2 #1 and one prospect. Not asking for much…

Well, we got Greentree, hes a high end prospect. If we can get Stramel from Wild, hes a solid C prospect with potential to be a solid 2C… and if we can get McKenna or Stenberg in the draft… would be a solid start here. If Schneider gets moved, I have a hunch someone will overpay for him. Throw in Gabe and Laba. We dont have much on D though.

Lmao… we wont have our 2nd round pick this year due to the Nemeth trade

I’ve said that regarding the Nemeth trade/no 2nd since the start of the season. Just another brilliant decision by drury. A contract he signed Nemeth to BTW

Ah Nemeth..the gift that keeps on giving. God Drury is the worst..
If you listen to JT after the game ..( my word is he disinterested. he has no answers for why this team is not playing well.. he’s looking forward to the Olympics after his “ I don’t know yeah I literally dont know” comments
on the teams performance. (Oh captain my captain) .. if that’s not inspirational.
Between Drury and JT man I’ve never been more confident that we are screwed for the foreseeable future.

tbnyr94 wrote:

Ah Nemeth..the gift that keeps on giving. God Drury is the worst..
If you listen to JT after the game ..( my word is he disinterested. he has no answers for why this team is not playing well.. he’s looking forward to the Olympics after his “ I don’t know yeah I literally dont know” comments
on the teams performance. (Oh captain my captain) .. if that’s not inspirational.
Between Drury and JT man I’ve never been more confident that we are screwed for the foreseeable future.

Trading for JTs contract and subsequently making him captain might be the worst thing this franchise as ever done – and there’s a lot to choose from. Guy totally screamed captain material with his post game interviews.

Wow, this team will not generate anything, this will be a really terrible stretch of years. Miller is on the wrong side of 30 and cant do it by himself. We will see what Mika can do now without Panarin. This team will be a joke. Sully brings nothing as I expected.

Its ok, below stupid says Drury is a genius!!

Brukie wrote:

Wow, this team will not generate anything, this will be a really terrible stretch of years. Miller is on the wrong side of 30 and cant do it by himself. We will see what Mika can do now without Panarin. This team will be a joke. Sully brings nothing as I expected.

Its ok, below stupid says Drury is a genius!!

Were getting the tank we wanted, however… Miller, wow. Just gets worse and worse.

Just need to hope and pray we can get one of the top 2 picks. Need to hope and pray we get a massive haul for Trocheck.

We can hope for a miracle that Mika wants out of this and doesnt want to play the rest of his career on a tanking franchise. The way hes playing right now, people might be ringing his agent. Throw a little retention on that contract, could be a valuable asset. Let me live my pipedream.

Anyone else in disbelief that clown is part of Team USA brain trust as assistant GM?
Almost feel a bit dirty rooting for USA with Quinn, Sully, ( he has already checked out) and Mr Incompetent leading the charge.

If your getting rid of Panarin and Tro .. what does it matter get rid of all of them. There is literally no skater that’s irreplaceable. Even though I like Cuylle and Laba.. Robertson has much improved too. Nobody is untouchable.

tbnyr94 wrote:

Anyone else in disbelief that clown is part of Team USA brain trust as assistant GM?
Almost feel a bit dirty rooting for USA with Quinn, Sully, ( he has already checked out) and Mr Incompetent leading the charge.

If your getting rid of Panarin and Tro .. what does it matter get rid of all of them. There is literally no skater that’s irreplaceable. Even though I like Cuylle and Laba.. Robertson has much improved too. Nobody is untouchable.

I was a huge Robertson fan when we got him, with hopes that he and Schneider were the future pair of our defense behind whoever Fox was paired with… which is now Gavrikov. In all honesty, our D, is not really that far off.

However the cumulative effect of poor management, poor coaching and poor leadership has really torn this team to shreds. Sure Fox and Shesty getting hurt is a big loss, however, personally I feel it was a blessing in disguise. I feel like if Fox and Shesty didnt get hurt, Drury would still be making moves to try to salvage the season and make the playoffs.

I watched an interview with Rupper about Jason Robertson. He was talking about the Rangers trading for him. Rupper made a good point. JRob is a RFA now and then a UFA soon, why would he want to play for a coach and GM who didnt take him on Team USA for the Olympics? Yes he would have to report but not have to resign here. Interesting point.

Yeah good point about JRob..although I believe Guerin has final say. Usually lots of cash tends to sway players. But I think there is too much stain on the last 2 years here. Players talk about that stuff all the time. Panarin chose LA because of what Gavrikov told him. Could you imagine what players are thinking when they see Drury on Team USA? Oh isn’t he the GM of the one of the most disappointing teams in the league and your team no longer competes especially at home? Having Sully there isn’t a good look either and forget Quinn 🙂 Just remember Drury drove the Hartford Wolf Pack into the abyss for 4 years before coming here.
I still can’t fathom Drury not asking for at least a second rd pick since we don’t have one for 2 years! You think Kings would have hung up the phone being on the cusp of acquiring the Rangers leading scorer last 7 seasons! Just seems like that’s something he should have inquired about. ( spoiler alert Kings are average even with Bread and don’t see them winning a round so forget about better compensation from that deal)

Brukie wrote:

I watched an interview with Rupper about Jason Robertson. He was talking about the Rangers trading for him. Rupper made a good point. JRob is a RFA now and then a UFA soon, why would he want to play for a coach and GM who didnt take him on Team USA for the Olympics? Yes he would have to report but not have to resign here. Interesting point.

Going after Robo would be a huge mistake, and it would be a huge mistake on Robo’s part to come here. He would be wasting his prime years here.

tbnyr94 wrote:

Yeah good point about JRob..although I believe Guerin has final say. Usually lots of cash tends to sway players. But I think there is too much stain on the last 2 years here. Players talk about that stuff all the time. Panarin chose LA because of what Gavrikov told him. Could you imagine what players are thinking when they see Drury on Team USA? Oh isn’t he the GM of the one of the most disappointing teams in the league and your team no longer competes especially at home? Having Sully there isn’t a good look either and forget Quinn 🙂 Just remember Drury drove the Hartford Wolf Pack into the abyss for 4 years before coming here.
I still can’t fathom Drury not asking for at least a second rd pick since we don’t have one for 2 years! You think Kings would have hung up the phone being on the cusp of acquiring the Rangers leading scorer last 7 seasons! Just seems like that’s something he should have inquired about. ( spoiler alert Kings are average even with Bread and don’t see them winning a round so forget about better compensation from that deal)

But then why would Gavrikov sign here? That doesnt make sense.

https://x.com/eklund/status/2020185682883322255?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

EK using AI images of players that he can just get real pictures of. Look at laf LOL

lol Laf’s helmet 😂

Rangers should be in on all trash contract players other teams are trying to free themselves of.

As far as LAF goes… unless someone is willing to overpay, thinks the Rangers are holding him back and believes he can be more than a 50pt player, I would be in no rush to move him yet. He may not be the generational 1st overall pick that people thought he could be, however… hes still a middle 6 mainstay, who plays 80 games a year, who can contribute and who can play with a physical edge.

Look at the haul Kraken got for Bjorkstand and Gourde, two 1sts and a 2nd. Im not saying were gonna get some crazy haul like that, but to say that LAF isnt worth a late 1st I think is a bit of a stretch. The issue will always be that he went 1st overall. If LAF was drafted anywhere after the 5th pick, no one would say a thing.

Is it possible they strip JT of the captaincy after the break?

No lol. Would just be another black eye for drury.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

No lol. Would just be another black eye for drury.

That being said, he is useless as a Captain. What a terrible situation.

Here is a good example of how stupid the Drury is a genius comment is.

Since taking over before the 2021 draft, Drury has brought in John Lilley as director of player personnel and amateur scouting while replacing multiple scouts and coaches, but he’s kept Jed Ortmeyer as director of player development and Tanner Glass as Ortmeyer’s top assistant.

The results haven’t improved. Of 31 picks made across five drafts with Drury at the helm, no selection has played more games (48) or produced more points (14) than 2022 fourth-round center Noah Laba.

What a winner!!!

Brukie wrote:

Here is a good example of how stupid the Drury is a genius comment is.

Since taking over before the 2021 draft, Drury has brought in John Lilley as director of player personnel and amateur scouting while replacing multiple scouts and coaches, but he’s kept Jed Ortmeyer as director of player development and Tanner Glass as Ortmeyer’s top assistant.

The results haven’t improved. Of 31 picks made across five drafts with Drury at the helm, no selection has played more games (48) or produced more points (14) than 2022 fourth-round center Noah Laba.

What a winner!!!

You know Im driving that Ortmeyer / Glass bus. Ive said it before, if they fired Drury, Id be all over trying to hire Gregory Campbell (assistant GM with Panthers) to be GM here.

Where is everyone? I guess only fair weather fans. I guess it will be like this for a few years now.

What’s there to talk about, it’s the Olympic break. Not much going on. Anyone think anyone has a chance to beat Canada?

Brukie wrote:

On paper, Canada has the best team, incredible talent. Its up to team USA to make up goals because they left the better goal scores at home in favor of JT Miller and Trocheck. I love Trocheck but in this tournament, I want Caufield or JRob.

I feel like Troch is a player you want for so many situations. But, Miller over Robertson is nuts.

As for not being around, on top of being tired of the endless frustration from our team and the added frustration of this website, I just had my shoulder surgery yesterday. So, good chance I’ll be around more in the near future.

Tonybere wrote:

Brukie wrote:

On paper, Canada has the best team, incredible talent. Its up to team USA to make up goals because they left the better goal scores at home in favor of JT Miller and Trocheck. I love Trocheck but in this tournament, I want Caufield or JRob.

I feel like Troch is a player you want for so many situations. But, Miller over Robertson is nuts.

As for not being around, on top of being tired of the endless frustration from our team and the added frustration of this website, I just had my shoulder surgery yesterday. So, good chance I’ll be around more in the near future.

Hoping for a quick recovery Tony

Yeah this site is frustrating but the Buzz is a spam center now. No one is ever on there.

Thank you, sir!
It’ll be a long road. But, at least I’m on my way now.

Did anyone read the Hockey News article about how the Rangers mistreat their prospects? The organization basically puts a muzzle on prospects and is controlling of their players. In fact, Ken Campbell lead writer for THN had contacted OHL’s Windsor Spit Fires about the deal for Liam Greentree after the trade and appparently the Rangers have a gag order and forbid them from talking to the kid about the Panarin trade? Campbell said they are the only organization in the NHL that does this and control their prospects to a detriment.
Campbell said “ No wonder they are 3rd to last place in the league”.

The fact that Robertson and Caulfield are not on the team for the sullen JT Miller is a testament how the US mismanagement of their roster continues.
Olympic Roster fodder:

Jason Robertson 32g 66 points plus/minus 20

Cole Caulfield 32g 57 points plus minus 19

JT Miller 14g 37 points plus minus -22

Which one would u have selected? LOL

tbnyr94 wrote:

Did anyone read the Hockey News article about how the Rangers mistreat their prospects? The organization basically puts a muzzle on prospects and is controlling of their players. In fact, Ken Campbell lead writer for THN had contacted OHL’s Windsor Spit Fires about the deal for Liam Greentree after the trade and appparently the Rangers have a gag order and forbid them from talking to the kid about the Panarin trade? Campbell said they are the only organization in the NHL that does this and control their prospects to a detriment.
Campbell said “ No wonder they are 3rd to last place in the league”.

This doesnt surprise me one bit with how our prospects have looked.

Can u post the link to the article?

I can try: this probably won’t work..https://x.com/Ken_Campbell27/status/2020234853934137439?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2020234853934137439%7Ctwgr%5E13f5cdbc477f5c8c9cc2f265458edf788380a93a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyhockeyinsider.com%2Fnhl-team%2Fnew-york-rangers%2Fseveral-clear-reports-surface-that-indicate-how-the-new-york-rangers-organization-mistreats-their-prospects

Here is more of it.https://x.com/scottcwheeler/status/2020285264392749401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2020285264392749401%7Ctwgr%5E770782f621f2f7b06fdff65612be6c4bf0e23341%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nyhockeyinsider.com%2Fnhl-team%2Fnew-york-rangers%2Fseveral-clear-reports-surface-that-indicate-how-the-new-york-rangers-organization-mistreats-their-prospects

How long has this gag order been in effect? I know the organization set up more restrictions last year after the Panarin payoff.

Not sure..but the tone of the article seems like it’s been this way for many years.
Just another example where we think we are the smartest team in the room. But I see where Panarin incident certainly didn’t help matters.

On a side note.. It’s nice watching some fun competitive hockey. So far Slovakia is going toe to toe with Finland. 1-1 heading to 3rd.
Slovakia only with 5 NHL players.. Finland has 24.

I only watch highlights so far. But this Canada/Czechia game is nice hockey to watch!! I’ll have to try to catch more of the other countries.

Hows rushing that Panarin trade looking now with Fiala expected to miss the rest of the season?

It’s even more frustrating that the Clown GM didn’t get a first rdr. Kings arent exactly a lock to make the playoffs. ( 3 pts out of Wildcard) Fiala is a huge loss. He drives to the net which Kempe and Panarin are more perimeter although Kempe is really solid everywhere. So yeah we had an opportunity but our General Mismanager frittered it away. I’m so sick of the way this organization does things. Haven’t seen an article yet saying the Panarin deal was good for the Rangers. But hey Panarin had him over a barrel. That Drury gave him access to.

that was some OT winner for the womens gold. Sorry Tony!

Hello

picklerick wrote:

Hello

hello

Hi

picklerick wrote:

Hi

Hey Rick, Im here, I was on Jans Olympic thread.

Place is a ghost town

Brukie wrote:

picklerick wrote:

Hi

Hey Rick, Im here, I was on Jans Olympic thread.

Place is a ghost town

doesn’t help none of those blogs were pushed to the forums. if the blog isn’t on the forum i feel no one comments/it’s much harder to get a thread going. I had no idea he was publishing olympic blogs because i just come straight to the rangers forums lol

Did anyone see the Fox interview? I got a little sense there maybe a strained relationship here with the team now. Maybe Im reading a little too much into it.

Brukie wrote:

Did anyone see the Fox interview? I got a little sense there maybe a strained relationship here with the team now. Maybe Im reading a little too much into it.

No he seems unhappy.

Miller needs to sit for the season and heal/contemplate whether or not he wants to be a captain

The org is a joke

Apparently I was logged out at some point, so anytime I came to check in no new blogs were posted so I didn’t bother to try and find which blog everyone was taking in. I logged in today and now all the new blogs popped up. This site is terrible/very difficult to keep up conversation. I’m glad they boo’d Drury last night, too bad the weasel wasn’t on the ice so they could’ve boo’d him more.

picklerick wrote:

Brukie wrote:

Did anyone see the Fox interview? I got a little sense there maybe a strained relationship here with the team now. Maybe Im reading a little too much into it.

No he seems unhappy.

Miller needs to sit for the season and heal/contemplate whether or not he wants to be a captain

The org is a joke

Doing a so called “Retool” with Miller, Mika and maybe even Igor isnt going to get us to the Cup. By the time the new prospects start to bloom, at least 2-3 years from now these guys will be in their mid 30’s and at the bottom end of their careers. Gotta try to convince them to waive and ship them out. Do a proper rebuild.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Apparently I was logged out at some point, so anytime I came to check in no new blogs were posted so I didn’t bother to try and find which blog everyone was taking in. I logged in today and now all the new blogs popped up. This site is terrible/very difficult to keep up conversation. I’m glad they boo’d Drury last night, too bad the weasel wasn’t on the ice so they could’ve boo’d him more.

I have to agree, there are too many blogs forums or whatever you want to call them. The site needs to be able to have people only post on one active blog at a time. Like if Jan writes an article, only be able to post one that article. People dont need to have multiple placers to post. Its not that serious.

Im missing the old days of the Buzz!!!

Brukie wrote:

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Apparently I was logged out at some point, so anytime I came to check in no new blogs were posted so I didn’t bother to try and find which blog everyone was taking in. I logged in today and now all the new blogs popped up. This site is terrible/very difficult to keep up conversation. I’m glad they boo’d Drury last night, too bad the weasel wasn’t on the ice so they could’ve boo’d him more.

I have to agree, there are too many blogs forums or whatever you want to call them. The site needs to be able to have people only post on one active blog at a time. Like if Jan writes an article, only be able to post one that article. People dont need to have multiple placers to post. Its not that serious.

Im missing the old days of the Buzz!!!

this site is so jacked.

forums: this is the newest blog in here.
writers page > click on Jan: newest blog is an olympic one.
home page of this entire site: newest jan blog is about duguay which is newer than the olympic one above.

what is the deal here lol.

looks like we picked up someone off waivers and sent othmann down. sigh.

Looking like Othman’s time here is limited. Another first round pick we busted on now.

Lias Kravtsov Kakko Laf Othmann.

7, 9, 2, 1, 16.

Busted on every single one. It’s not the players, it’s the organization.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Looking like Othman’s time here is limited. Another first round pick we busted on now.

Lias Kravtsov Kakko Laf Othmann.

7, 9, 2, 1, 16.

Busted on every single one. It’s not the players, it’s the organization.

Ive been pressing the issues with development for a couple years. The team cannot move forward with Ortmeyer and Glass running player development.

Jan, the “newest” forum is almost a month old. The site constantly logs you out, difficult to keep conversations because you never know which is the latest forum (it doesn’t even go to the top of the forums you have to search for it), every time I submit a post I have to copy it because after submitting the first time 10/10 it “loses connection to the internet” and I have to go back and resubmit. This whole forum vs blog thing is terrible especially when not all blogs get a forum. It might be time to consider a move back to the buzz as much as I hate to say that.

That’s not goalie interference…….

nyrangers9479 wrote:

That’s not goalie interference…….

Agreed on both things, the Buzz and the interference call

If Tj was here he would say they are on the way back.

This team is just miserable. LOL

Im talking with someone and spitballing some ideas… what do you guys think of the framework of this trade, atleast in a preliminary sense…

To CAR: Trocheck and Schneider
To NYR: Nikishin, Nadeau and a 1st round pick

Seems a little light

This place is a ghost town

Epic performance tonight.. Was I the only one watching that saw Lafreniere hit Merzlikins in the head on the disallowed goal?
Dave Maloney still is talking about the skate interfering. The fact that Albert and Dave went on for about 15 minutes about it not being goalie interference lol.
Drury should never be allowed to step foot in the Garden again. ( Taking a team that was a few bounces away from the SCF just 2 years ago and turning it into this mess..) I will say it again they won’t make playoffs for 5-8 years on the conservative side.

Sullivan was the wrong coach also. This team is terrible, unfortunately Drury has traded Trouba Kreider Panarin for peanuts. That will hurt in the long term on this “retool”. He’s a clown

tbnyr94 wrote:

Epic performance tonight.. Was I the only one watching that saw Lafreniere hit Merzlikins in the head on the disallowed goal?
Dave Maloney still is talking about the skate interfering. The fact that Albert and Dave went on for about 15 minutes about it not being goalie interference lol.
Drury should never be allowed to step foot in the Garden again. ( Taking a team that was a few bounces away from the SCF just 2 years ago and turning it into this mess..) I will say it again they won’t make playoffs for 5-8 years on the conservative side.

Yeah Laffy hit him in the head and Dave was going on about the skate. Im shaking my head like, what dont you see??

The playoff drought will be a while for sure, at least 3-5. Miller isnt a leader, now he blamed the fans for booing!!! Mika resurgence is useless but only for his trade value. Its going to take time unless we can trade Miller, Mika and Fox. Fox because why keep him around for a few years if we arent contending?

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Sullivan was the wrong coach also. This team is terrible, unfortunately Drury has traded Trouba Kreider Panarin for peanuts. That will hurt in the long term on this “retool”. He’s a clown

Drury is the worst GM in any sport. Id love to play him in cards, guy just announces his hand. We traded away all of our top players, Borgen is whats left. Useless

Don’t forget the great Vaakaneien.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Don’t forget the great Vaakaneien.

How did I forget him??? LOL

This is Tj’s genius at work!!!

I told him that would age badly.

Don’t forget Vakainenen and Parsinnen! ( Who Drury had to have) reports were Drury had been trying to get both of these guys for a while now!
Again Drury thinking he’s the smartest guy in the room.
Now it appears he’s overplayed his hand for Trocheck. ( we will see)
Anyone with his track record under any other owner would have been shown the door..But not us!
I have never seen a GM who has NEVER made a trade where we could actually say the Rangers did a great job there!
It’s criminal that he’s in charge of this ( re tool) it’s a rebuild ..but whatever. Dark days ahead.

I’d say the K Miller trade was good/fair value. Same could be said for the Lindgren trade.

Wild traded a 2028 2nd round pick to NSH for Michael McCarron… If thats the case, we should get a 1st for Carrick.

I’ve been saying for a while Carrick would get us a 2nd. 1st is a stretch, I’d be happy with a 2nd. He should be the one getting the Steven McDonald award also this year, no one on the team more deserving.

And there ya go! McCarron to Wild takes Trocheck out of the equation.
Drury overplayed his hand. Now it’s basically Carolina or Detroit..possibly Pittsburgh.
Was hoping for Yurov and a 1st but that’s over now.
Also JT Miller on IR.
Brisson and Morrow sent down
Up is Chmelar and old friend just mentioned him in my last post.. Parssinen.

tbnyr94 wrote:

And there ya go! McCarron to Wild takes Trocheck out of the equation.
Drury overplayed his hand. Now it’s basically Carolina or Detroit..possibly Pittsburgh.
Was hoping for Yurov and a 1st but that’s over now.
Also JT Miller on IR.
Brisson and Morrow sent down
Up is Chmelar and old friend just mentioned him in my last post.. Parssinen.

How does 4th line McCarron take Trocheck out? This doesnt really do anything for them and their lack of top line center play. Wild next 3 games are against Bolts, Knights and Avs. They’ve already lost 2 straight, they may lose the next 3. Trading for Hughes was an all in move, they dont look like a cup team. They need to win if they plan on keeping Hughes. Theyre gonna end up playing the Stars or Avs in the first round, theyre not beating either as is. I think the McCarron move could be a set up for something larger, maybe Thomas? I dont think they trade Yurov for Trocheck, but they would for Thomas.

JT’s vagina must be sore again.

Does anyone elses post not get posted? After I said the other day I wasnt having the same problems as others, the last 2 days Ive had many problems.

Brukie wrote:

Does anyone elses post not get posted? After I said the other day I wasnt having the same problems as others, the last 2 days Ive had many problems.

Its happened to me a bunch of times, and when you try to post it again, it says its a duplicate post even though it never did.

The wild have nothing to offer. No 1st this year and no 2nd for the next 3 years. Yurov doesn’t move the needle enough for me. I want a trade with DET TB or BOS.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

The wild have nothing to offer. No 1st this year and no 2nd for the next 3 years. Yurov doesn’t move the needle enough for me. I want a trade with DET TB or BOS.

I dont think Wild want to trade Yurov anyway. Stramel is risky like Greentree is for us prospect wise because you find yourself putting a lot of faith in potential.

As far as Tampa goes, O’Reilly is possibly the better prospect, but they dont have a 1st until 2028.

Boston is interesting because they have 2 1sts this year, their own and Toronto’s, if theyre willing to part with a pick that definitely swings the needle. As far as prospects, Lohrei would be great, Poitras and Lysell are no better than all the other guys who are kind of mid.

Detroit, Im not as high on Kasper as everyone else (same with MBN) and I dont see Yzerman trading Danielson for Trocheck.

Ill mention them because theyre in play, but unless Carolina is sending Nikishin in a package, I dont want anything else they got (Nadeau, etc…). I just feel like if there was any chance of Canes trading Nikishin, it would have been done in the Miller trade.

So Tyler Myers traded for a 2nd and a 4th. How do we not get a 1st for Schneider if hes on the move?

Regarding the Trocheck trade, we HAVE to hit a home run. We also don’t have to trade him if the return isn’t there. No need to make a trade just to make a trade. Let’s see what the moron does

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Regarding the Trocheck trade, we HAVE to hit a home run. We also don’t have to trade him if the return isn’t there. No need to make a trade just to make a trade. Let’s see what the moron does

Yea I wrote that in PuckGM just now.

“Unless Detroit is sending us Danielson or Boston is sending us Lohrei and Poitras (or maybe Carolina is sending Nikishin), I personally have fallen out of love for trading Trocheck also. His value wont drop.

With Thomas, Kadri, ROR and Schenn out there… its tough to say if he should slow play his hand. But making a deal for the sake of making a deal would be an egregious mistake.”

aecliptic wrote:

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Regarding the Trocheck trade, we HAVE to hit a home run. We also don’t have to trade him if the return isn’t there. No need to make a trade just to make a trade. Let’s see what the moron does

Yea I wrote that in PuckGM just now.

“Unless Detroit is sending us Danielson or Boston is sending us Lohrei and Poitras (or maybe Carolina is sending Nikishin), I personally have fallen out of love for trading Trocheck also. His value wont drop.

With Thomas, Kadri, ROR and Schenn out there… its tough to say if he should slow play his hand. But making a deal for the sake of making a deal would be an egregious mistake.”

Im thinking the other GM’s know Drury now and will just low ball him. They know he needs to make moves so why would they overpay? Drury painted himself into a corner.

Well, is that really a fact. Lets look at the 2 trades he made so far.

— KAndre – a 1st, a 2nd and Morrow. Did we get low balled or did we do well here? I think we all were surprised with the pull so Im gonna say he did well.
— Panarin – Greentree, 3rd and 4th. Unfortunately Panarin had a NMC. Do I feel like we could have done better? Sure. However Panarin set the terms. If you wait until after the Olympics and the Kings find themselves losing more games, they may decide to not trade for him at all since theyre out of it. Now we lose him for nothing. So, not ideal, but could have been worse.

Im gonna look at the KAndre trade and say thats more like what Drury is trying to pull off for Trocheck and Schneider.

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by aecliptic.

STL Blues trade Parayko to the BUF Sabres for a 2026 1st and Radim Mrtka

If Im Drury, before I consider trading Schneider, I dangle Scott Morrow out there to see what the market looks like for him. I dont think Morrow’s offense is good enough to make up for his deficiencies defensively to be a mainstay defenseman, but someone out there might believe they can make it work.

So another RHD traded, Weegar to Utah for Maatta, a prospect and three 2026 2nd round picks.

Well, as much as we hate Drury, lets look at the amazing deadline Bowman and Oilers are having…

The Oilers have traded:
– a 2027 1st round pick (conditional), as a result of this trade, the 2026 1st round pick that the Sharks own is now completely unprotected
– a 2028 2nd round pick
– Andrew Mangiapane

Oilers received:
– Connor Murphy
– Jason Dickinson
– Colton Dach

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 5 days ago by aecliptic.

Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lol

tbnyr94 wrote:

Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lol

In regards to Giroux vs. Panarin… Ill use the Knights vs. Kraken analogy for this. Because it wasnt necessarily a common move, when Giroux got traded, I think the thought process initially was well we have to give proper value despite the clause, right? As was with the Knights, teams werent quite sure how to approach expansion and the Knights absolutely poached everyone and so when it was time for the Kraken, GMs were prepared and that didnt happen again. And so… when Panarin came around, GM didnt feel entitled to give any more than Greentree and a couple of mid-late picks. If Holland says “thats the offer, take it or leave it”, what are you gonna do? Threaten to not trade Panarin and let him walk for nothing? That would have made you a lot happier right? That Drury stood his ground..!? PS: Go watch highlights of Greentree from this season.

Does it matter that its a late 2026 1st round pick? These 2026 1st round picks are very valuable, plus we also got their 2026 2nd as well. With how badly teams are trying to acquire RHD, Id try to dangle Morrow and see if we could get another 2nd round pick for him.

But Ill be honest, we dont trade Trocheck, I wont be disappointed about it. I would rather keep him than trade him for the sake of trading him.

Schneider, with these RHD trades, could pull a 1st round pick. I doubt it. But I could see a 2nd, a 3rd and a prospect.

If McCarron can pull a 2nd round pick, theres absolutely no reason why Carrick shouldnt… and I said this before, everyone laughed, that ya’ll would be surprised what these bottom 6 glue guy centers can pull.

aecliptic wrote:

tbnyr94 wrote:

Regarding Panarin.. we all know he totally misread the room which Drury is apt to do. Like I mentioned prior yeah Panarin had the Rangers over a barrel with the NMC.. only wanting to go to LA etc. Didn’t stop the Flyers from receiving a first and 3rd and Owen Tippet for Giroux. He had the sane parameter in the deal only wanting to go Florida and was a UFA. That is what the return should have been. But then announcing to the league that Panarin is available and we are not resigning him took all the leverage away.
Drury sat Panarin which made the situation untenable. Having to get rid him for 10 cents on the dollar. Not having a second round pick and not demanding a second rounder in return from LA just shows how clueless this guy is with asset management.
As for The K’Andre deal..You’re getting a pick at the end of the first rd and Morrow really struggles in his own end as you mentioned ( He’s young so hopefully he will improve, time will tell)
Waiting for Rangers trades with this guy at the helm is torture.
Trocheck, Schneider , Carrick maybe JBrodz should definitely be dealt ..but it’s scary thinking of the return?
Btw non Ranger related ..How did the Pens get Girard and 2nd rounder for Brett Kulak? Seemed like that should have been an even up deal.
See how it easy it is to get second rd picks? But Panarin couldn’t fetch one..lol

In regards to Giroux vs. Panarin… Ill use the Knights vs. Kraken analogy for this. Because it wasnt necessarily a common move, when Giroux got traded, I think the thought process initially was well we have to give proper value despite the clause, right? As was with the Knights, teams werent quite sure how to approach expansion and the Knights absolutely poached everyone and so when it was time for the Kraken, GMs were prepared and that didnt happen again. And so… when Panarin came around, GM didnt feel entitled to give any more than Greentree and a couple of mid-late picks. If Holland says “thats the offer, take it or leave it”, what are you gonna do? Threaten to not trade Panarin and let him walk for nothing? That would have made you a lot happier right? That Drury stood his ground..!? PS: Go watch highlights of Greentree from this season.

Does it matter that its a late 2026 1st round pick? These 2026 1st round picks are very valuable, plus we also got their 2026 2nd as well. With how badly teams are trying to acquire RHD, Id try to dangle Morrow and see if we could get another 2nd round pick for him.

But Ill be honest, we dont trade Trocheck, I wont be disappointed about it. I would rather keep him than trade him for the sake of trading him.

Schneider, with these RHD trades, could pull a 1st round pick. I doubt it. But I could see a 2nd, a 3rd and a prospect.

If McCarron can pull a 2nd round pick, theres absolutely no reason why Carrick shouldnt… and I said this before, everyone laughed, that ya’ll would be surprised what these bottom 6 glue guy centers can pull.

Im torn on Trocheck, I love his play, he is a playoff player that any team would want but they really need to trade him. With all the talk around him, can you imagine he doesnt get traded now? He knows he is a short timer here, he will most likely be moved in the off season, why bother keeping him around? To win another few games? We need to lose games at this point, not win.

Id rather keep anyone under 25 and rebuild from there. No need to trade any of them because you dont know how a 2nd round pick will turn out. Problem is we need to rebuild right, get rid of the over 30 vets and take it from there.

I gotta say, EK is an idiot!!!

He reported that Buffalo GM Kevyn Adams traded for Colton Parayko.

Talk about being stupid.

So the new article is or is not accessible via forums? I’m just about done here

Is not. This is the only forum for the last month+. I posted in a blog a couple blogs ago and got a response from Bill but he seemed aggravated with what I said. Jan said he’d make sure each blog has a forum, but that has yet to happen. Then someone said they’re having issues with the forums they’re trying to resolve. This site is somehow worse than the buzz. I want it to succeed and have offered multiple suggestions, but not a single thing has changed. Very difficult to have flowing conversation on here.

I truly don’t understand why it’s only hockey websites that have these issues. One of life’s great mysteries. I do appreciate the communication from the guy who runs it, though

Roy got a 1st. Insane how bad Drury is at trading

I’m able to see the new blog in the forums – unsure why you guys aren’t. It’s 2 below this one since this was most recently commented on.

https://x.com/eklund/status/2029702564824940660?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

Oh no shit EK?? Really lol???

I logged out, logged back in, and the new forum was there. I commented in the forum, left. Came back on the site, and now that forum isn’t there anymore even though I know it is bc I commented in it.

U guys just want to make a discord or something to talk hockey? This is insanity

Maloney, “the contending teams blue lines are on the bigger side rather than the smaller side”

I’ve been saying this forever!!!!

Just goes back to what most of us have been saying .. Drury sucks as President and GM.
I don’t care that Greentree is a solid prospect. ( he’s playing the OHL which is a highly offensive league)
So yes when Panarin a 5x 30 goal scorer and 49 goal scorer doesn’t fetch a second rd pick but Nicolas Roy gets a first???
Yeah makes me think Drury is a clown.
Panarin had the most points of players that have been traded thus far.
What a good GM should have done is said so you’re going to deny your fan base a chance to watch Artemi Panarin this season playing with Kempe and Kopitar over a second rd pick or god forbid a first rd pick? How about calling Hollands bluff? He has no negotiating skills whatsoever..he has been so heavy handed as our General Mismanager. He’s basically alienated half the team going back to last year. Yet the one who created this disaster is in charge of (retooling ) this tire fire? Just doesn’t seem right..

As far as the site, yeah it’s definitely hit or miss. You do have to login multiple times but once you see your logged in you can just hit submit and it posts.

Good for Chmelar!
God the Leafs are trash too!

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Roy got a 1st. Insane how bad Drury is at trading

So what youre saying is you would have been happy with a 1st round pick for Trocheck?

Carrick to buffalo

Carrick to Sabres! Good dude.. great team player..would have gotten the Steven McDonald Extra effort award in my book.

Sorry didn’t see trade posted already.

Aecliptic, no. But Roy gets a 1st, we get garbage for Panarin. Carrick for a 3rd and 6th. wtf is that. Mccarron got a 2nd. I would’ve kept Carrick for a 3rd and 6th, garbage return yet again.

I hate this team, they cant even get it right. I cheer for them to win, they lose, I cheer for them to lose, they win.

tbnyr94 wrote:

Just goes back to what most of us have been saying .. Drury sucks as President and GM.
I don’t care that Greentree is a solid prospect. ( he’s playing the OHL which is a highly offensive league)
So yes when Panarin a 5x 30 goal scorer and 49 goal scorer doesn’t fetch a second rd pick but Nicolas Roy gets a first???
Yeah makes me think Drury is a clown.
Panarin had the most points of players that have been traded thus far.
What a good GM should have done is said so you’re going to deny your fan base a chance to watch Artemi Panarin this season playing with Kempe and Kopitar over a second rd pick or god forbid a first rd pick? How about calling Hollands bluff? He has no negotiating skills whatsoever..he has been so heavy handed as our General Mismanager. He’s basically alienated half the team going back to last year. Yet the one who created this disaster is in charge of (retooling ) this tire fire? Just doesn’t seem right..

As far as the site, yeah it’s definitely hit or miss. You do have to login multiple times but once you see your logged in you can just hit submit and it posts.

I agree with you on this but Panarin did have leverage but you mean to tell me you couldnt get Panarin to go to any other team within the 4k miles of the 2 coasts?? Drury over played his hand with the “Letter”

What a dummy, we will be in hockey purgatory for 5-8 years!!

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 4 days ago by Brukie.

I read an article where Emily Kaplan was saying drury backed himself into a corner with a lot of these trades and gms not willing to overpay because he showed what he was doing. Said he made a tough situation for himself

nyrangers9479 wrote:

I read an article where Emily Kaplan was saying drury backed himself into a corner with a lot of these trades and gms not willing to overpay because he showed what he was doing. Said he made a tough situation for himself

This is Drury the genius at work here, announces to the world that we are retooling the roster, trades the team leading scorer for a prospect and a 4th liner for a 3rd rounder and then holds pat?? What an idiot!!! Yeah he planned ahead!!

Ha, Nick Foligno to the Wild will take them out on Trocheck. Way to go CLOWN Drury!!! So basically anyone bidding on Trocheck will be bidding against themselves!!!

Yep..What a clown..( you beat me to it Brukie)
Heard the Wild offered Stramel , Carson Lambos a D prospect and 1st this year and 2nd next.
Also saw Trocheck scrubbed his New York Rangers social media. So now again Drury causes all this unnecessary BS.
He almost has to trade him now for again ( not equal value) because he created this animosity in the room.
Get ready for Yzerman to come fleece him.

He has no clue how to work with leverage.
Like I mentioned..watching this clown working the phones is like watching a car accident.. You wince and look away.

Being that MN doesn’t have a 1st…..

It was probably the 27 First rd pick. Point is pretty moot now.

This whole Panarin deal is even more nuts.. he wants to go only to LA? Which is odd..he never once mentioned the LA area as a destination.
Soo he wanted to go to a contender? Well the Kings are not making the playoffs. I find it hard to believe that if CD would have held onto him through the Olympic deadline ( which he self imposed) you couldn’t have gotten him to add other teams to his list ( maybe someone who is in the playoffs) . You still only want the Kings Artemi? They are selling off assets.
Again had he not painted himself into a corner Panarin was still with the team, GM’s wouldn’t have been lining up.. sorry just don’t buy a recent conversation with Gavrikov spurned him on to La and LA only.

It’s amazing he overpays for guys when he has all the leverage.. yet you get a prolific scorer in AP and get a good prospect( but who knows) for him.
I’d like to know who still thinks this clown is doing a good job. ( besides Dolan)

But hey at least we still don’t have a second rd pick?

I thought Sather was the worst GM in Rangers history..( Drury ..hold my beer)

Hearing Trocheck ..according to Emily going to Carolina for Kotkaniemi plus..
Hold onto your butts..

If kotkoniemi is the main piece coming back ……

Here is the move we have been waiting for: Derrick Pouliot to Chicago for Aidan Thompson

Trocheck staying

Official?

Now that trocheck is officially staying…. His value will never be higher than it was leading up to the deadline. He’s going to play and therefore we will win more games than if he was traded, worsening our lottery chances. What a complete disaster

Wow, Drury put the for sale sign out there for the world to see and of course got fleeced!!! All I am reading about is how 1st round picks are flying around and Panarin only got a prospect????

Tell the world Trocheck is being traded and hold him out, only to have him NOT get traded??? What a dummy!!!

FIRE DRURY!!!!

Where is Tj, I really want to ask him if Drury is still his guy or what??

picklerick wrote:

Now that trocheck is officially staying…. His value will never be higher than it was leading up to the deadline. He’s going to play and therefore we will win more games than if he was traded, worsening our lottery chances. What a complete disaster

Just when you thought it couldnt get any worse, It does.

Right? Please find me a Drury apologist.. lol
Our retool consisted of acquiring Greentree and 2 3rd’s one 4 and a 6 and Aiden Thompson
Look out now! Drury calling this a retool is like calling a woman half pregnant..:)
What a crap show.. Even Jan was ripping him for the Carrick deal ..
It’s unreal how bad things are here. Our top 3 centers will be at least 34 in 2 years..
Yet we are retooling ..
Everyone said Drury needs to hit it out of the park in Trocheck deal.
He never even made it to the ballpark.

He is incredibly incompetent!

I hate this guy man. Absolutely hate him

Othmann traded to Calgary..not sure return

Othmann for Jacob Battaglia LW/C 43 pts in 58 for Windsor
64th pick in 24 draft. Have a strange feeling this won’t speed up the “ retool” but hey who knows? 🙂

Another 1st round forward that failed to develop under drury

I understand that people are mad about the Trocheck situation, but personally, Im not bothered by it. Would ya’ll would have been happy with a mediocre return as long as a 1st was attached to it? Nope. You guys would have complained about the return regardless of what it was. The way I see it, Drury was not going to trade Trocheck unless a legit player was coming back to NY… ie Yurov, Kasper, Nikishin (maybe Nadeau), Lohrei/Poitras… but no one was willing to part with them.

My theory on the Carrick situation is two fold. Drury knew Guerin wanted Trocheck, but also wanted a depth C. So he tried to use Carrick to leverage Guerin to trade Yurov, he didnt want the additional 2nd in 2028 and still get a mediocre return for Trocheck. So Guerin traded for McCarron and said hey, we dont need Carrick anymore, deal is still as it stands.

People say Trochecks value is at its highest now, but apparently no one was willing to pony up. However, I dont think Trocheck’s value will take much of a hit. Matter of fact, he still becomes a useful trade piece for us in the offseason if lets say we try to pull the rights to Robo or Dorofeyev. People are getting way too dramatic about this.

The Carrick trade on its own, I think Drury was given a choice of either a 2nd round pick in 2029 or a 3rd round pick in 2026, and with the depth this draft is supposed to have, he wanted the pick now.

As far as Schneider goes, what are we going to get in return for Schneider that would be better for us next year? We retain his rights and could potentially trade him at the draft.

What I got from this, Drury isnt interested in getting prospects and potential. He wants young players he can plug in immediately. Im not mad about it.

Was the letter necessary? Absolutely not. That was a huge fumble. However Im only looking at this from a phone booth sized sample of just this last month. Doesnt change my opinion on everything else.

People need to chill out though, I dont think this deadline was as bad as people make it out to be.

• This reply was modified 2 weeks, 3 days ago by aecliptic.

This is where I disagree with you. You cant go out an announce you are trading a player, hold him out of the line up and not trade him. Drury did this before and it back fired. It affects the player and it could possibly affect the room, the room is still probably toxic and he is just encourages more toxicity.

Second off, either Drury is over valuing Trocheck or other GMs think they can fleece him, which is bad on both fronts. If other teams think Drury is an idiot, which Im sure most do, then there are other player and options out there, Trocheck isnt the only player that has to be traded. If Drury thinks Trocheck is worth more then thats a bigger problem because he will never get traded.

As for stock piling picks, who cares about 3rd to 7th rounders. The chances of them making an impact are less that 20 or so percent. You need 1st and second rounders and you need to develop them, which the Rangers cant.

I found this draft player playing percentage stats which is what Im talking about.

1st ROUND PICKS [1267 players]

MIN. 1 GAME : 1131 (89.30%) 0 GAME : 136 (10.70%)
100+ GAMES : 872 (68.80%) < 100 : 395 (31.20%)
500+ GAMES : 524 (41.40%) < 500 : 743 (58.60%)

2nd ROUND PICKS [1317 players]

MIN. 1 GAME : 887 (67.40%) 0 GAME : 430 (32.60%)
100+ GAMES : 503 (38.20%) < 100 : 814 (61.80%)
500+ GAMES : 219 (16.60%) < 500 : 1098 (83.40%)

3rd ROUND PICKS [1286 players]

MIN. 1 GAME : 662 (51.50%) 0 GAME : 624 (48.50%)
100+ GAMES : 362 (28.10%) < 100 : 924 (71.90%)
500+ GAMES : 129 (10.00%) < 500 : 1098 (90.00%)

4th ROUND PICKS [1291 players]

MIN. 1 GAME : 528 (40.90%) 0 GAME : 763 (59.10%)
100+ GAMES : 274 (21.20%) < 100 : 1017 (78.80%)
500+ GAMES : 105 (8.10%) < 500 : 1186 (91.90%)

5th ROUND PICKS [1305 players]

MIN. 1 GAME : 431 (33.00%) 0 GAME : 874 (67.00%)
100+ GAMES : 194 (14.90%) < 100 : 1111 (85.10%)
500+ GAMES : 63 (4.80%) < 500 : 1242 (95.20%)

6th-7th ROUND PICKS [2528 players]

MIN. 1 GAME : 697 (27.60%) 0 GAME : 1832 (72.40%)
100+ GAMES : 330 (13.00%) < 100 : 2199 (87.00%)
500+ GAMES : 128 (5.10%) < 500 : 2401 (94.90%)

Aecliptic. I don’t disagree about not trading him if the right deal wasn’t in place. But you don’t go announce to the league you’re going to trade him, hold him out of the lineup, and then not trade him. You don’t send a letter out saying you’re retooling, and your retool consists of (3) 3rd round picks, (1) 6th round pick and a prospect.

I’m opposed to trading Schneider, and don’t like we traded Othmann. He trades for these bums, Borgen, Uro, Parsenin etc, his value of players is then worst in the league. He needs to be gone. Based on how he values players, he probably had a home run package and turned it down bc of how he views players based on past trades. Blais, Brisson, the list goes on and on.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Aecliptic. I don’t disagree about not trading him if the right deal wasn’t in place. But you don’t go announce to the league you’re going to trade him, hold him out of the lineup, and then not trade him. You don’t send a letter out saying you’re retooling, and your retool consists of (3) 3rd round picks, (1) 6th round pick and a prospect.

I’m opposed to trading Schneider, and don’t like we traded Othmann. He trades for these bums, Borgen, Uro, Parsenin etc, his value of players is then worst in the league. He needs to be gone. Based on how he values players, he probably had a home run package and turned it down bc of how he views players based on past trades. Blais, Brisson, the list goes on and on.

This is where the last part of my post hits on the fact that sending the letter was a massive blunder, and I said it 2 years ago when all the Trouba stuff started going public. Then you got the stuff with Goodrow. Then you got the media harassing Mika if he’d waive his NMC. Now we have the letter, Panarin and Trocheck. His first year as GM, he was so tight lipped and actually made a couple good moves and we got into the ECF. However, I think this quick success went to his head cause hes become a real idiot with how hes conducting himself.

Despite all that, Im not mad at how the deadline went. As far as Trocheck goes, I think hes a gamer, I dont think this will affect him. His kids will be so excited that hes staying in NY for now that I think this will be just fine.

I think Drury thinks he can do better in the off-season. The way thinks are looking on the west coast is very very interesting. Its looking pretty much a lock that the Wild and Stars will play each other in the first round. Both teams have players of interest for the Rangers. Stars get bumped in the first round, questions start circling around Robo. Wild get booted in the first round, questions start circling if theyll ever be good enough to be anything more than an early exit playoff team and that will affect Hughes decision to stay or go. Dorofeyev is a RFA, with how cap strapped Vegas always is, he might be available. The East is wide open I feel, and if Carolina cant make it to the ECF then they need to take a long hard look in the mirror. Wings and Sabres will find out where they stand on a playoff level.

Thats how I feel about it, and I dont think it will affect Trocheck’s value. Trocheck is still under contract for 3 more years after this on one of the sexiest AAV’s for what he can provide.

Schneider, I think the fans blew that up far more than anything. I dont think Drury made any serious indication that he would trade him, I think Fans just assumed he would be part of the retool because he might fetch something significant. He might have been listening to offers, but unless it was significant he had no intention of moving him.

Which is the route Drury should have taken in general instead of sending that dumb letter. “I like the core of players we have, I think its a solid foundation to build on next year, of course if someone calls with an offer to blow me away Id listen. Despite the rough year, we’ve dealt with significant injuries to key players that have attributed to that. I whole heartedly believe we are better than the standings show.” Should have been the most ambiguous response ever.

Generally speaking now, as far as Raddysh, whats the point in trading a proven depth player for a 4th rounder? Doesnt do anything for us. Same goes for Brodz and Vaak, etc…

Brukie wrote:

This is where I disagree with you. You cant go out an announce you are trading a player, hold him out of the line up and not trade him. Drury did this before and it back fired. It affects the player and it could possibly affect the room, the room is still probably toxic and he is just encourages more toxicity.

Second off, either Drury is over valuing Trocheck or other GMs think they can fleece him, which is bad on both fronts. If other teams think Drury is an idiot, which Im sure most do, then there are other player and options out there, Trocheck isnt the only player that has to be traded. If Drury thinks Trocheck is worth more then thats a bigger problem because he will never get traded.

As for stock piling picks, who cares about 3rd to 7th rounders. The chances of them making an impact are less that 20 or so percent. You need 1st and second rounders and you need to develop them, which the Rangers cant.

Dude, you know how I feel about the developmental side of things. Ive been driving that wagon to fire Ortmeyer and Glass for years.

As far as Trocheck goes, I think hes a gamer, I dont think this will affect him. His kids will be so excited that hes staying in NY for now that I think this will be just fine. I put this in my previous post but it was more of a response to you.

Was Drury over valuing Trocheck? Schenn is older and not as good as Trocheck at this point and got a 1st, 3rd, Drouin (who is a cap dump, is ass and always injured), and an unsigned prospect. Youre telling me that Trocheck isnt worth a 1st and Yurov? Lets look at Kadri… 1st, 2nd, Olofsson (zero valuAe addon, just for cap purposes), a prospect (Curran, unsigned good year in WHL but that doesnt mean much), 20% retained on remaining contract. Again, nothing major in this trade. Would you have taken that package from Avs, sans the retention? I dont think Drury was overvaluing Trocheck, I just think he didnt want a whole bunch of quantity/projects added on to the 1st rd pick.

On another note, was thinking about this, lets say we end up with the 3rd or 4th pick, I would consider trading back a few picks. Belchetz looked like a stud before the clavicle injury, to unite him (6’5, 225) and his teammate Greentree (6’3, 215) on the Rangers could be real interesting.

I talked about Belchetz about a month ago, I’d love to get that kid

nyrangers9479 wrote:

I talked about Belchetz about a month ago, I’d love to get that kid

Gonna be quite the dilemma if they have to decide between Malhotra or Belchetz. We really have nothing in the pipeline center wise.

If the Rangers keep fkn around like this they’re gonna NYGiants themselves.

Gonchars nephew having quite a year in OHL. Needs to put on like 25 lbs though.

Anyone been following Fortescue and Emery? They had a little bit of hype behind them, hows that looking?

Been checking out all these unsigned prospects. The Wolfpack might be getting a serious influx of kids next year. Greentree, Lamb, Fortescue, Aspinal, maybe Gonchar, maybe Battaglia, possibly whoever we draft this year with our 1st round picks.

I was thinking about this whole RFA thing, and thought about how the whole Marner thing went down last off-season. Maybe Drury has something up his sleeve.

First move. What if we trade a cost controlled, low AAV 2C to Vegas, who needs all the help they can get to stay under the cap for Dorofeyev? Straight up. Hes due a massive raise, one that the Knights cant afford. Trocheck <> Dorofeyev

Second move. Trading Panarin to the Stars for Robo made no sense for Dallas. However, what if we trade Greentree to Dallas for Robo? Dallas has some cap space, but can they afford to pay another guy 14 million? Thats pretty much all the cap space they have for next year.

So now, when you look at the overall situation. Rather than trading Trocheck for a 1st, 3rd and a prospect, we get Dorofeyev, a 30+ goal scorer. Despite the controversy surrounding the initial return, the end game turns Panarin > Greentree > Robo. Another 30+ goal scorer.

Just messing with an idea.

Kreider would on pace for 57 pts and 31 goals this season if he played a full 82 games. The fact Drury traded that for a 3rd round pick is absolutely insane. The more I think about the position he’s put this franchise in the more aggravated I get he still has a job. And even firing him, the damage is done. He has destroyed this team for years to come.

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Kreider would on pace for 57 pts and 31 goals this season if he played a full 82 games. The fact Drury traded that for a 3rd round pick is absolutely insane. The more I think about the position he’s put this franchise in the more aggravated I get he still has a job. And even firing him, the damage is done. He has destroyed this team for years to come.

What he does this off-season will determine whether he really has destroyed it. Hes gonna have a very high draft pick and some solid assets to work with.

As far as Kreider goes, despite the fact that Ive always been a bit of a Kreider hater, the fact that there was no market for Kreider and he settled for what he got was definitely a massive blunder. Again, this stemmed off of him opening his mouth about changes and all.

aecliptic wrote:

I was thinking about this whole RFA thing, and thought about how the whole Marner thing went down last off-season. Maybe Drury has something up his sleeve.

First move. What if we trade a cost controlled, low AAV 2C to Vegas, who needs all the help they can get to stay under the cap for Dorofeyev? Straight up. Hes due a massive raise, one that the Knights cant afford. Trocheck <> Dorofeyev

Second move. Trading Panarin to the Stars for Robo made no sense for Dallas. However, what if we trade Greentree to Dallas for Robo? Dallas has some cap space, but can they afford to pay another guy 14 million? Thats pretty much all the cap space they have for next year.

So now, when you look at the overall situation. Rather than trading Trocheck for a 1st, 3rd and a prospect, we get Dorofeyev, a 30+ goal scorer. Despite the controversy surrounding the initial return, the end game turns Panarin > Greentree > Robo. Another 30+ goal scorer.

Just messing with an idea.

This is inline with a TJ trade idea. Would you do those trade if it was reversed? Nobody in the world would trade a bonafide star for a prospect. There will be so much more needed there. Why would Vegas trade a 25yo 30+ goal scorer for a 33yo 50 point player? Trocheck was never a second line center, he is a 3rd line center. Vegas always finds a way. to make it work.

Drury has nothing up his sleeve nor in his head.

Drury is our Mike Milbury

aecliptic wrote:

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Kreider would on pace for 57 pts and 31 goals this season if he played a full 82 games. The fact Drury traded that for a 3rd round pick is absolutely insane. The more I think about the position he’s put this franchise in the more aggravated I get he still has a job. And even firing him, the damage is done. He has destroyed this team for years to come.

What he does this off-season will determine whether he really has destroyed it. Hes gonna have a very high draft pick and some solid assets to work with.

As far as Kreider goes, despite the fact that Ive always been a bit of a Kreider hater, the fact that there was no market for Kreider and he settled for what he got was definitely a massive blunder. Again, this stemmed off of him opening his mouth about changes and all.

There was no rush to trade CK20 or Trouba or Goodrow, he just wanted to trade them and got nothing in return. Thats an idiot. What does Drury have to work with? What assets? An under performing Laffy and Schneider? One player isnt going to fix this team, if that was the case, Panarin would have be able to fix the team himself. Unless Miller, Mika and Fox waive, the Rangers dont have anything of value.

Brukie wrote:

aecliptic wrote:

I was thinking about this whole RFA thing, and thought about how the whole Marner thing went down last off-season. Maybe Drury has something up his sleeve.

First move. What if we trade a cost controlled, low AAV 2C to Vegas, who needs all the help they can get to stay under the cap for Dorofeyev? Straight up. Hes due a massive raise, one that the Knights cant afford. Trocheck <> Dorofeyev

Second move. Trading Panarin to the Stars for Robo made no sense for Dallas. However, what if we trade Greentree to Dallas for Robo? Dallas has some cap space, but can they afford to pay another guy 14 million? Thats pretty much all the cap space they have for next year.

So now, when you look at the overall situation. Rather than trading Trocheck for a 1st, 3rd and a prospect, we get Dorofeyev, a 30+ goal scorer. Despite the controversy surrounding the initial return, the end game turns Panarin > Greentree > Robo. Another 30+ goal scorer.

Just messing with an idea.

This is inline with a TJ trade idea. Would you do those trade if it was reversed? Nobody in the world would trade a bonafide star for a prospect. There will be so much more needed there. Why would Vegas trade a 25yo 30+ goal scorer for a 33yo 50 point player? Trocheck was never a second line center, he is a 3rd line center. Vegas always finds a way. to make it work.

Drury has nothing up his sleeve nor in his head.

Where is Vegas going to find 11m per year to pay Dorofeyev?

Didnt Vegas get at 100+ pt player in Marner for a 3C in Nicholas Roy? How is this any different? Id argue Trocheck is a far better player than Roy.

LAF right now has 17 points in his last 20 games, since January. Hes definitely opened his game up a bit. Schneider has also looked better. They are still trade assets. as is Trocheck. Sure we need help in a variety of ways, but we do have tradeable assets as well as a lot of cap space. Thats why I say its not over yet, we will see what he does this off-season. I remain incredibly unhappy with how we got here, but these are the cards we’ve been dealt and we have no choice but to watch it all unfold.

Kreider was a blunder.
Trouba, look it was a bad trade, but there were days, weeks where people wanted him off the team, were willing to trade him for a bag of pucks… then he gets traded for a bag of pucks and people arent happy.
Same with Goodrow, people wanted him off the team. Said his cap hit was too high to justify his place in the lineup. However the way this was handled set of a chain reaction of really horribly managed moves.

aecliptic wrote:

LAF right now has 17 points in his last 20 games, since January. Hes definitely opened his game up a bit. Schneider has also looked better. They are still trade assets. as is Trocheck. Sure we need help in a variety of ways, but we do have tradeable assets as well as a lot of cap space. Thats why I say its not over yet, we will see what he does this off-season. I remain incredibly unhappy with how we got here, but these are the cards we’ve been dealt and we have no choice but to watch it all unfold.

Kreider was a blunder.
Trouba, look it was a bad trade, but there were days, weeks where people wanted him off the team, were willing to trade him for a bag of pucks… then he gets traded for a bag of pucks and people arent happy.
Same with Goodrow, people wanted him off the team. Said his cap hit was too high to justify his place in the lineup. However the way this was handled set of a chain reaction of really horribly managed moves.

All of Chris “Milbury” Drury trades have been unforced, rush trades for no reason. Goodrow was brought here to be a playoff guy, that was it, Chris “Milbury” Drury gave him the contract. In the playoffs, Goodrow had 6 goals on 4th line minutes, Mika and Panarin combined for 9 with PP time, Goodrow did the job that he was suppose to do.

Ha Tj popped in on another thread and is off course pulling his chain over this mini win streak.

Still loves Chris “Milbury” Drury

Which thread?

Can someone post a link to the newest forum. Only forums 1+ month old are appearing for me. I’ve logged in and out numerous times. This site is tough

nyrangers9479 wrote:

Can someone post a link to the newest forum. Only forums 1+ month old are appearing for me. I’ve logged in and out numerous times. This site is tough

This is the only thread i see us chatting on – Brukie is referencing Jans most recent blog from a few days ago. TJ is commenting in the comment section there.

In response to Brukie – no idea why TJ defends him so much. It’s Chris Drury – he’s not some Rangers legend. Dude had a decent career but did nothing as a player for us during his tenure. It’s not like it’s messier/leetch/lundqvist running things where defending them nonstop would make more sense lol.

Ohhhh I found you guys!😬

This site is like navigating a corn maze in the dark while you’re drunk

I love Brukies play by play of me 😂it’s really flattering how much I’m in your head

Anyway, I’m encouraged by Laf, Perrault and Cuylle (since the Olympics). It’s at least something to take positive for the season and into next season. It’s really genius since he traded Panarin how they’ve all improved.

And yes, it’s not as bad as you all make it to be.

As far as me defending Drury…I’ll lay it out as I still don’t understand what you guys miss in all this (the last two years).

– They lost back to back seasons where they kind of choked, vs NJ (up 2-0 heading home) and then Florida series. Maybe it wasn’t a choke but it’s was clear as day how far behind they were to be true contenders after that series ended. It was a miracle they won 2 games they did.

– so knowing that he decided to basically blow up what he could, and it was mostly the leadership. Yea it got ugly, but how would it not get ugly? These guys all had clauses but you can’t just live with those results and not do anything about it. Running it back wasn’t an option. As far as the returns he got, they had no power there really. It was ultimately addition by subtraction anyway, and also cap space. The kicker is to a man we all said yea it’s time to move from these guys. Especially Goodrow and Trouba

-now this year..they start off very slow offensively, but defensively they were pretty good. Which was obviously an improvement from last season. The problem was they couldn’t score, none of them could. Then they lose arguably their two best players for long periods of time, Fox and Shesty. That’s 22 million dollars of hockey players, and the life and blood of the team. Boom season is derailed. Is that Drurys fault? No it isn’t. Point is, they could’ve been a playoff team if that doesn’t happen. They were the best road team in the NHL and that doesn’t happen by accident. The home thing was frustrating as hell but somewhat unexplainable. No one could figure that one out

– as far as Kreider and Panarin, specifically, they needed to move on from them because of the young wingers who needed to take the next step. Laf, Cuylle and Perrault. It’s fairly obvious now how that roster construction was holding them back, don’t believe me? Look what they’ve done since Panarin is gone. They’ve been awesome, all 3 of them. Panarin return? Again it’s the same thing, his hands were tied. It’s kind of crazy they got back Greentree because he forced his way to LA. He’s what we crave in a hockey player if he can develop

-Trocheck. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he trades him for less then his worth he’s a fool, if doesn’t trade him at all he’s a fool. This is what I mean, he cannot win with this fanbase. The one guy who constantly rips him a new one didnt even want the guy heavily rumored we’d get, Stramel 🤦‍♂️ so at least now he still has him and can figure out what to do. Trocheck is still a really good player that they could use. IMO I don’t even think they trade him, or ever really wanted to. Nest season the cap space is plentiful and they could be right back in the thick of it with some better health where they might regret trading him

You either believe in them or not. I realize I’m the only one who does around here. Maybe Aec and Rick have come around some. It’s not as bad as most of you relentlessly talk about tho, and not one shred of what I just said is false. They are all facts

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This line of LAF Zib Gabe is fkn’ cookin’ on all cylinders.

aecliptic wrote:

This line of LAF Zib Gabe is fkn’ cookin’ on all cylinders.

Something to be hopeful about thank god

slimtj wrote:

As far as me defending Drury…I’ll lay it out as I still don’t understand what you guys miss in all this (the last two years).

– They lost back to back seasons where they kind of choked, vs NJ (up 2-0 heading home) and then Florida series. Maybe it wasn’t a choke but it’s was clear as day how far behind they were to be true contenders after that series ended. It was a miracle they won 2 games they did.

– so knowing that he decided to basically blow up what he could, and it was mostly the leadership. Yea it got ugly, but how would it not get ugly? These guys all had clauses but you can’t just live with those results and not do anything about it. Running it back wasn’t an option. As far as the returns he got, they had no power there really. It was ultimately addition by subtraction anyway, and also cap space. The kicker is to a man we all said yea it’s time to move from these guys. Especially Goodrow and Trouba

-now this year..they start off very slow offensively, but defensively they were pretty good. Which was obviously an improvement from last season. The problem was they couldn’t score, none of them could. Then they lose arguably their two best players for long periods of time, Fox and Shesty. That’s 22 million dollars of hockey players, and the life and blood of the team. Boom season is derailed. Is that Drurys fault? No it isn’t. Point is, they could’ve been a playoff team if that doesn’t happen. They were the best road team in the NHL and that doesn’t happen by accident. The home thing was frustrating as hell but somewhat unexplainable. No one could figure that one out

– as far as Kreider and Panarin, specifically, they needed to move on from them because of the young wingers who needed to take the next step. Laf, Cuylle and Perrault. It’s fairly obvious now how that roster construction was holding them back, don’t believe me? Look what they’ve done since Panarin is gone. They’ve been awesome, all 3 of them. Panarin return? Again it’s the same thing, his hands were tied. It’s kind of crazy they got back Greentree because he forced his way to LA. He’s what we crave in a hockey player if he can develop

-Trocheck. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he trades him for less then his worth he’s a fool, if doesn’t trade him at all he’s a fool. This is what I mean, he cannot win with this fanbase. The one guy who constantly rips him a new one didnt even want the guy heavily rumored we’d get, Stramel so at least now he still has him and can figure out what to do. Trocheck is still a really good player that they could use. IMO I don’t even think they trade him, or ever really wanted to. Nest season the cap space is plentiful and they could be right back in the thick of it with some better health where they might regret trading him

You either believe in them or not. I realize I’m the only one who does around here. Maybe Aec and Rick have come around some. It’s not as bad as most of you relentlessly talk about tho, and not one shred of what I just said is false. They are all facts

Don’t you ever get tired lol

TJ, there really is no point in conversing with you anymore on these topics. The fact you still continue to defend him, and use genius shows you’re just being a troll at this point.

If you want to say we needed to move on from Kreider and Trouba (which I didn’t and don’t agree with but that’s fine), you don’t announce it to the league so you only get pucks back for these guys. They’re still valuable players, as shown by Kreider being on pace for 30+ goals again and Trouba having a great season including 10 goals and being on pace for 40 points. It’s horrendous asset management.

Trading for Miller if this was the end goal and giving up the 12th overall pick was a MASSIVE mistake. Nesbit (who was taken with that pick by the Flyers) is a 6’4 center that plays physical. I’d much rather have that sitting in the pipeline than watching 32 year old JT miller on the decline in his career.

He’s gotten a prospect and (3) 3rd round picks for Carrick Panarin and Soucy. wtf is that???? Other GM’s are laughing at this clown. He needs to be fired but unfortunately the damage has already been done. Not having the 34/35th pick this year and we gave up the 42nd pick last year just for someone to take Nemeth’s contract???? Absolutely atrocious.

Wait you don’t like Drury? I had no idea 🤣

How bout the Mika line recently? Genius move trading Panarin so they can grow into bigger roles. Simply. Genius.

If youre the LA GM and Panarin says I only want to play there…why give them anything?

Ok I’ll be the troll that believes in the teams direction. That’s me, a true Ranger fan 🖕Trolling TJ I like it

Btw, How does it feel to support pedophilia? Congratulations

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Perrault is going to be a very good player. I’ve said over and over Laf isn’t as bad as he seems, goes back to the overall development of players in this organization. Burying them on the 3rd line with no PP time isn’t how u develop someone. I was against trading Laf, said it numerous times this year.

Giroux said he’s only going to FLA. But guess what? They didn’t say they’re trading him no matter what. So guess what FLA gave up? 1st 3rd and Tippett. Kind of hard to do when you tell the entire league you aren’t resigning him. No leverage, no need for other teams to think “hmmm, maybe if we don’t offer something good they’ll keep him?” Nope, took that thought completely out by telling everyone he’s gone no matter what.

You can’t just go trading away players for absolutely nothing bc ur an imbecile and don’t like them. He’s done a ton of damage to this franchise. This is the last time I’m replying to you, you’ve become a tom level troll. Everyone’s been getting along great in here, not going to ruin it with your trolling.

I’ll support the rangers GM while you support pedophilia.

slimtj wrote:

pedophilia.

WTF?

Brukie how does it feel to support someone who supports pedophilia? And don’t act like you have no idea what I’m talking about. I know you’re dumb, but you ain’t that dumb

I mean the least we can do is make these people feel uncomfortable about voting for them🤷🏻‍♂️

This board has needed a topic change, so I’m bringing the juice. Freshly squeezed and all

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Ok, back to hockey talk…

Lets say we end up out of the top 2 spots, which I feel is looking more and more likely… Who do we like in the draft?

If we end up 3rd, do we draft Verhoeff? Do we trade back and ask a kings ransom for a potential franchise RHD?

Beyond that, Ive heard management really like Smits.

I really like going for Malhotra and feel like this would be the best choice for us if hes here. I feel like wingers can be found, but franchise centers are not so easy and we have nothing in the pipeline at C.

Belchetz we’ve talked a bit about, I like him, would be cool to unite Greentree with his teammate here. I wonder if he drops in the draft because of the clavicle injury. That could be a real tactical move if he drops back a few spots.

Get this clown out of here

So you do support pedophilia got it. Support the murder of innocent Iranian children too? An entire elementary school of em, “because they missed”.

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slimtj wrote:

So you do support pedophilia got it. Support the murder of innocent Iranian children too? An entire elementary school of em, “because they missed”.

Terrible tragedy.

Yeah I cant believe people voted for him. His own daughter in her diary said Joe use to take showers with her.

Brukie wrote:

slimtj wrote:

So you do support pedophilia got it. Support the murder of innocent Iranian children too? An entire elementary school of em, “because they missed”.

Terrible tragedy.

Yeah I cant believe people voted for him. His own daughter in her diary said Joe use to take showers with her.

Silence is compliance Brukie

Interesting, I wonder why Shesty is wearing an all white helmet.

Maaaaaybe Drury gets some credit for picking up Kartye. I’ve probably come to the wrong place tho. I do realize he gave up Buch a few years ago 🤣

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slimtj wrote:

Maaaaaybe Drury gets some credit for picking up Kartye. I’ve probably come to the wrong place tho. I do realize he gave up Buch a few years ago

Tj, you are boasting about the GM of a team that is sitting in a lottery spot!!! ROTFLMAO!!!

You cant make this shit up!!!

slimtj wrote:

Maaaaaybe Drury gets some credit for picking up Kartye. I’ve probably come to the wrong place tho. I do realize he gave up Buch a few years ago

we need a larger sample size TJ. Gustafson was good for half a season then was absolute trash – i think you wanted to sign him for like 5 years at the time lol. nice to see kartye doing well, but i assume he’ll go back to his normal pace. seems a lot of times players rack up points immediately after trades then settle down. strome’s on a heater in calgary after being traded and having a horrid season.

nice seeing laf/gabe racking up points/playing well but wtf is this team doing… we need to LOSE games. franchise can’t even tank correctly lol

So… Was bread the problem lol

meltingplastic wrote:

Not sure I 100% agree with the sheath and fox thing but I’ll admit I haven’t watched enough games to truly say anything there.

The bread thing, to me at least, is up in the air until we see Laf do this for at least a full season. If making him a top line player was what he needed to get off his ass, great. But I’m not convinced just yet.

Now the JT Miller thing really concerns me as it’s not just an on ice product issue. Maybe him being away from the boys has helped as well. Either way, unfortunately we will continue to not fail hard enough for McKenna

What happened with Miller?

Brukie wrote:

meltingplastic wrote:

Not sure I 100% agree with the sheath and fox thing but I’ll admit I haven’t watched enough games to truly say anything there.

The bread thing, to me at least, is up in the air until we see Laf do this for at least a full season. If making him a top line player was what he needed to get off his ass, great. But I’m not convinced just yet.

Now the JT Miller thing really concerns me as it’s not just an on ice product issue. Maybe him being away from the boys has helped as well. Either way, unfortunately we will continue to not fail hard enough for McKenna

What happened with Miller?

no idea, but i did see he is replacing Gabe on PP1 in practice.. Grade A coaching by Sullivan. smh

We are so back baby. This is officially hockeybuzz’s spiritual successor now. Thx TJ

slimtj wrote:

Do you get banned or something?

And for the record I told my ex wife the same thing. Fkin MAGA cvnt

Ha, I can see she was the smart one in the ex relationship!!! LOL

Next year, and beyond that, is promising. We now have one of the youngest rosters in the NHL, and cheapest to be honest. Our cap space is ridiculously plentiful. The contracts that are perceived as bad really aren’t even an issue because of this. This is where the disconnect is with you guys and Drury. You’re (most of you) so wrapped up in 2-3-4-5 years ago and aren’t seeing the big picture. They went from an east west identity, and being a buyer and contender, to seller and builder. Building a more north south identity. I also think this was why they hired Sullivan, who you also have no patience with🤦‍♂️ You can see at times this year that they can be a really good team (if you’re actually fair when assessing them). There are obviously holes that need to be addressed and they must have a better hit % on these draft picks. But things are finally looking up imo. This is a massive draft year for Drury and staff. I hope they draft for speed over anything else, if I had one thing to pick on it’s we’re still pretty slow overall as a team

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slimtj wrote:

Do you get banned or something?

And for the record I told my ex wife the same thing. Fkin MAGA cvnt

I’m talking about you losing your mind

slimtj wrote:

Next year, and beyond that, is promising. We now have one of the youngest rosters in the NHL, and cheapest to be honest. Our cap space is ridiculously plentiful. The contracts that are perceived as bad really aren’t even an issue because of this. This is where the disconnect is with you guys and Drury. You’re (most of you) so wrapped up in 2-3-4-5 years ago and aren’t seeing the big picture. They went from an east west identity, and being a buyer and contender, to seller and builder. Building a more north south identity. I also think this was why they hired Sullivan, who you also have no patience with You can see at times this year that they can be a really good team (if you’re actually fair when assessing them). There are obviously holes that need to be addressed and they must have a better hit % on these draft picks. But things are finally looking up imo. This is a massive draft year for Drury and staff. I hope they draft for speed over anything else, if I had one thing to pick on it’s we’re still pretty slow overall as a team

Tj, the eternal optimist!! I admire your dedication but you are a snap judgement person. They won a few games and some players are experiencing some success but it is such a small sample size, its way to early to make any kind of determination. Things are looking up? Its been 5 games, when you are on the bottom, you can only look up. Mika is having a good year after 3 years of decline, will he replicate it next year? Miller has looked terrible and will be 34, will he have a bounce back year? Gavrikov is having a career year, will he replicate it next year? The Rangers have 2 first rounders and a second, 4 third rounders. After the second round only 30 percent of the players play 100 games, so the majority of those players are 3rd or 4th line players who take longer to develop. By the time those players are ready, Mika and Miller will be in the last years of their contracts. Not a good look. This team will miss the playoffs the next 2 years and will not be a contender for at least another 5.

picklerick wrote:

slimtj wrote:

Do you get banned or something?

And for the record I told my ex wife the same thing. Fkin MAGA cvnt

I’m talking about you losing your mind

Hmm and I thought you’d be one of the people who didn’t support pedophilia 🤷🏻‍♂️ amazing how the bad guy is the one who doesn’t condone it. The country is in the pooper

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Matthews should request a trade. That team is pathetic.

This team really doesn’t want a top 5 pick

picklerick wrote:

This team really doesn’t want a top 5 pick

Its honestly really weird. Theyre not winning games with luck either, theyre beating teams outright. However, if this costs them a top 5 pick, I will definitely be annoyed.

aecliptic wrote:

picklerick wrote:

This team really doesn’t want a top 5 pick

It’s honestly really weird. Theyre not winning games with luck either, theyre beating teams outright. However, if this costs them a top 5 pick, I will definitely be annoyed.

They definitely need something to feel good about but goddamn let us get mckennna or stenberg

slimtj wrote:

So Brukie says they shouldn’t go and get draft picks. Thats some hot take

Dopey, you need RIF, where did I say that?You like just making shit up.

aecliptic wrote:

picklerick wrote:

This team really doesn’t want a top 5 pick

Its honestly really weird. Theyre not winning games with luck either, theyre beating teams outright. However, if this costs them a top 5 pick, I will definitely be annoyed.

This was a lucky win, thank you Igor.

Forgive me for saying this…

Drury has a knack for drafting mid round guys…Laba, Chmelar, maybe Lamb, maybe Aspinall…so maybe those mid rd picks he trades for is a sort of strategy a genius would take up 🤔

slimtj wrote:

Hmm it’s almost like I said with him playing all season they may have made the playoffs

Spin that beeyatch

Where were the Rangers in the standings before he got hurt?? Oh thats right sitting outside a playoff spot. Jeez, dont let the facts get in the way of your wet dream.

Was it really luck or Igor just being Igor?

slimtj wrote:

I mean the facts are there was still 40 something games left

It’s one thing to say they stink like last year yes they fkin stunk to high heaven. This year they don’t when fully healthy. You’re just afraid to admit the GM has the right idea, and they’re good because it would blow up your whole routine here

I’ll be here next year shoving your pedophilia supporting ass in it, and I can’t wait.

And btw, Mika has had one..ONE..bad season (everybody did). It’s not some 3 year decline that you made up. Go look it up

Spin that beeyatch

Remember, the Democratic party had those Epstein files for 4 years and voted AGAINST releasing them. Including AOC. If Trump was guilty of anything, they would have released them back when Joe was in office. From what I see of the files, its all Democrats, ha including Whoopie!!!

You ignorance is bliss.

He had 2 bad seasons but either way, he isnt a gamer, he proved that in the playoffs.

aecliptic wrote:

Was it really luck or Igor just being Igor?

Either way, this team has already proved, we cant win when your goaltender has to win every games for you.

Brukie wrote:

aecliptic wrote:

Was it really luck or Igor just being Igor?

Either way, this team has already proved, we cant win when your goaltender has to win every games for you.

But isnt it atleast a little bit of a relief to see how well they’ve played since the break and that LAF and Gabe are totally killing it right now? Schneider has looked tons better. Kartye, who the fk is this guy?

There comes a point where I feel like you guys would rather see this team absolutely fail with Drury rather than be proven wrong and have him win a Cup. I, as much as the next guy, have not been happy with his decisions and for me, this coming off-season will be the final straw.

So the fact that trump is named in the files 30,000 times, grabs pussy because they let you when you’re famous, found civilly liable for rape has been accused by multiple women, bought ms teen USA pageant and said to Stern that he wushed he could bang his daughter …..etc etc – all just smoke!? But its the Dems LMFAO!

🤡

LGR!!

ah back to the good ol’ days in here! 😀

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Greschnergy4 wrote:

So the fact that trump is named in the files 30,000 times, grabs pussy because they let you when you’re famous, found civilly liable for rape has been accused by multiple women, bought ms teen USA pageant and said to Stern that he wushed he could bang his daughter …..etc etc – all just smoke!? But its the Dems LMFAO!

LGR!!

You do know that NYS changed its laws in order to charge Trump? Civil court is much different than criminal court. Hell, I could win a guilty verdict for stalking of you having that Carol Alt picture you have hanging in room still. never said I liked the guy, I really never did but he was a better choice over Harris. Its funny though, CLinton is in those files more over than Trump along with some embarrassing pictures but I dont hear any calls for his head? Multiple people, including Clinton have said they never saw or heard of about Trump doing anything wrong.

You didnt answer my question, if Trump was guilty of anything why didnt Biden release those files under his watch?

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Because you are a slow adult I will explain- Trump/Epstein Island was not Partisan. and BTW, not that I am a supporter of the Clinton’s but Bill did in fact testify before congress and preferred to do it in a public hearing but that idea was rejected

Greschnergy4 wrote:

Because you are a slow adult I will explain- Trump/Epstein Island was not Partisan. and BTW, not that I am a supporter of the Clinton’s but Bill did in fact testify before congress and preferred to do it in a public hearing but that idea was rejected

Wow, thats some explanation, lots of depth to it, makes zero sense. You truly are an idiot. keep stroking your guitar and playing with your Legos, you will continue to be a strain on society. Im getting a clearer picture of you now, white, 6ft white hair, beard medium build, glasses and when interviewed you just keep repeating, Trump is a fascist, Trump is a racist and not give an example of how.

Brukie wrote:

Greschnergy4 wrote:

Because you are a slow adult I will explain- Trump/Epstein Island was not Partisan. and BTW, not that I am a supporter of the Clinton’s but Bill did in fact testify before congress and preferred to do it in a public hearing but that idea was rejected

Wow, thats some explanation, lots of depth to it, makes zero sense. You truly are an idiot. keep stroking your guitar and playing with your Legos, you will continue to be a strain on society. Im getting a clearer picture of you now, white, 6ft white hair, beard medium build, glasses and when interviewed you just keep repeating, Trump is a fascist, Trump is a racist and not give an example of how.

You forgot pedophiliaholic. Like yourself. Why don’t you go rape your daughter, or cheer on the grande orange doing it 🙏🏻

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Once again Tj, you show what kind of low life, POS you truly are.

there’s a new forum for the new blog if we all want to migrate there… lol

smh tj. I stayed off this politics stuff because I want no part of it. However, the problem I have with society now-a-days, is back in the day, you had to back up your words. Unfortunately, theres no repercussions for saying stupid things.

aecliptic wrote:

smh tj. I stayed off this politics stuff because I want no part of it. However, the problem I have with society now-a-days, is back in the day, you had to back up your words. Unfortunately, theres no repercussions for saying stupid things.

Typical keyboard warrior, all he says is stupid shit, along with Gresh and his idiot brother. They type away because there isnt any repercussions on here. In person, there are.

Politics are fine if you have a reasonable conversation, most can, some can not but its Tj, what kind of human being are you telling a man to rape his daughter? What kind of demented mind do you have? In person, he wouldnt be able to walk away.

So… back to hockey. The Ducks scratched Mason McTavish, and that situation might be interesting. He was in a lot of trade rumors before the Ducks eventually resigned him. Should we be kicking tires on him next season? They have no RHD signed beyond this season, a package consisting of Schneider and the 2026 CAR 1st?

aecliptic wrote:

So… back to hockey. The Ducks scratched Mason McTavish, and that situation might be interesting. He was in a lot of trade rumors before the Ducks eventually resigned him. Should we be kicking tires on him next season? They have no RHD signed beyond this season, a package consisting of Schneider and the 2026 CAR 1st?

Im not OB with trading Schneider. RH D men are a premium too. We still have a glut of C’s in Miller, Mika and Trocheck. Have to see what the return of a possible Trocheck trade will be.

We should be all over Mctavish. Drury has set the precedent of what a top 3 pick should cost, so Borgen and a 3rd get it done?

Jan Levine: Rangers Win 4th in a Row over Wild

Link to the newest forum. I don’t understand why sometimes it shows up, then won’t show up the next 10’times I come on this site; then show up again. Wish Bill could give us some answers on it.