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Actually I can see it just fine. An injured Matthews can still shoot, his problem was only hitting the net properly, and JT shoots just fine, so those two actually strengthen my argument.
Marner is Gretzky man. With one exception. Gretzky could see a guy diving down to lay on or pin or block a puck ahead of him doing so by about 1 second and simply stick handled the puck away from being caught up in it whereas Marner doesn’t see it and always gets caught up in it. It’s why Marner always disappears in games 5,6, & 7. It’s when the ref whistles go away.
I’m not trying to be an ass here, I’m saying this with respect to Marner’s talent, but what it’s missing is Gretzky’s ability to see things before they happened.
Actually, I don’t think you do.
Matthews missed 15 games. Marner still scored without him. Matthews scored a career low in goals and Marner had a career high in assists and points so no, your argument is weak. He can make strong players stronger and any contender will already have that. He’s not going to join a lottery team and even having a guy who can score 30 goals on his line, he literally proved this last season he can still get 75 assists and 100+ points.
If Marner couldn’t see things coming, he wouldn’t be a leader in takeaways, playing on the PK and a Selke nominee. Your analysis is wrong. He sees the play just fine. He’s part of the reason the Leafs won 3 games against the Panthers with a GWG and two primary assists on GWGs. His team around him in Toronto was just not as good as Florida.
NOPE. WRONG. AGAIN.
You do not trade the less expensive scoring winger who controls play on his own and can produce points without others. You trade the ridiculous expensive passing/playmaking winger, especially since your leading scorer has proven he doesn’t need his help to get 40-50 and play a solid (maybe best in league) 2-way game.
Another sign you know not what you say – Marner plays against top lines by default. His centre is 34. That’s why. Coaches don’t match up wingers to other teams top lines. Why? Cause a winger has A FUCKING FRACTION of the responsibilities 5v5 that the centre does. If Marner played with JT and Willy with 34 – WILLY would be the winger on the ice against top lines. So dumb bud. Jesus at least try to get the game beyond a fat guy in mommy’s basement that plays EA Sports hockey.
- Another sign you are useless in terms of understanding what you watch – is that you feel cause Mitchy kills penalties it makes him a good 5v5 defensive player. Nope. Means he is great at PK work in a set structure where there is not as much pace and thinking. Special teams is just that – special teams. It’s not hockey.
Not a ‘hockey dumb’ point but just plain dumb – you mention I am part of the problem. That’s the deluded world you live in young man. I, like everyone else here have absolutely nothing to do with the NHL Club or its players. You racist pedo incels are nuts eh. You feel like you are making decisions? At least you can spell your own name (I assume). How are you walking up stairs? Actually you don’t walk up stairs – mommy brings you your stuff to basement. My 600lb Rare Jewel Life – coming this fall on TLC.
The fact you can’t see that roster composition
is the problem is not surprising. I mean you weren’t ever a player. At any level. They don’t make skates with the load rating for your rotund (sit in front computer all day) physic.Can your first line in response please point out the posting error (text size differential) and some spelling? I’d rather you say something correct vs you talking about a game you can’t see.
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Actually I can see it just fine. An injured Matthews can still shoot, his problem was only hitting the net properly, and JT shoots just fine, so those two actually strengthen my argument.Marner is Gretzky man. With one exception. Gretzky could see a guy diving down to lay on or pin or block a puck ahead of him doing so by about 1 second and simply stick handled the puck away from being caught up in it whereas Marner doesn’t see it and always gets caught up in it. It’s why Marner always disappears in games 5,6, & 7. It’s when the ref whistles go away.
I’m not trying to be an ass here, I’m saying this with respect to Marner’s talent, but what it’s missing is Gretzky’s ability to see things before they happened.
Exactly.
Marner is a great regular season player and a good game 1 to 4 playoff player, but the leafs cant afford to have two players like that on the team making $13+m.
Sure the leafs will miss marner during the reg season, and marner will do great with his new team during the reg season. Marner really stepped up in Matthews absence during the reg season and carried the team but he never did that in the playoffs.
Its been 9 years, time for some sort of change and change doesnt have to come this off season. In fact I hope the leafs dont blow all their cap this off season unless they sign a bunch of one year deals if possible.
IF Ekblad is available…sign him. Stack up the D, give guys like Tanev and OEL rest while pushing Morgan down to the 3rd line to excel….the hopefully trade next off season.
Marner wants to much money and seems like a bitchy kid, had him and matthews not demanded so much money on their 2nd contracts (and dubas caving in), I think marner could have retired a star in this town.
But ego seems to have gotten in the way.you are the one saying the leafs are done and he is leaving.. jfc
If he wants to leave, nothing they can do… and prefect time to rebuild.you talk out both sides of your mouth
Pretty logical that he’s going to leave after they let his best line mate walk for nothing and the team goes into decline because they already can’t beat the best teams in the division and have little to no hope of improving with free agents.
That’s right, there is nothing they can do. Because the franchise is run by morons. They had a chance to do it right and they’re in the midst of throwing it away.
Marner is a great regular season player and a good game 1 to 4 playoff player, but the leafs cant afford to have two players like that on the team making $13+m.
Then trade Nylander. Where did he go after Game 3? He was AWOL and didn’t even have to play vs the top line.
Marner had a GWG and two primary assists vs the Panthers. He directly helped win 3 games and defensively kept their top line in check.
That’s the player you keep.
IF Ekblad is available…sign him. -FakeChange
So let a 100 point player who helps you win games vs the Panthers in the playoffs walk for NOTHING but sign a player who scored 3 goals and 33 points last year?
Ekblad is a big, big mistake. He’s never healthy with a history of concussions, he just got suspended and he doesn’t even score as much as Rielly.
The Leafs can’t afford to sign another 7 year deal for a guy who is going to be 30-37. The Leafs blueline is already old and broken enough as it is.
You gotta admire at least the commitment of UG though eh! Guy is proven wrong all day long and just keeps coming up with more stupid hockey takes day after day. That is either commitment or just a young man who just plum has no life.
I do like how he goes in and edits posters names though. That is neat. Super high IQ move there for sure. That is a Jr’C’ level brain if I’ve ever seen one.
Game 3 Marner blah blah – did fuck all. Mitch did 2 things all series:
1. Floated a puck without looking at the net (that was screened) and it found its way in.2. Had a giveaway (not caused by anyone just bad outlet) land on his stick and turned and shovelled the puck 2 feet along the ice (like a Jr C player could even do) to the player who scored. That’s 14 sheets worthy for sure!
Was the Leafs PK good in the post season?
#rememberclutterbuck
#thesaviourUg
Marner had a GWG and two primary assists vs the Panthers. He directly helped win 3 games and defensively kept their top line in checkOooh game 3.
Look back over these post or look up some facts (which i know you dont like)….over the past 9 years marner has like 1 goal 8 assist or something like that in games 5-7.
In series clinching games, marner has 5 assist.Nylanders stats are better…2 goals 11pts
Oooh game 3.
Look back over these post or look up some facts (which i know you dont like)….over the past 9 years marner has like 1 goal 8 assist or something like that in games 5-7.
In series clinching games, marner has 5 assist.Nylanders stats are better…2 goals 11pts
Or, use your brain, which I know is difficult for you and look at the most recent data which is Marner played better vs. Florida than Nylander did.
Florida is who they need to beat to win the East and possibly the Cup.
And Marner, had a GWG and two primary assists on GWG vs Florida. Literally involved in winning THREE games against Florida, something no other team did this year, not even McDavid or Kucherov.
Keep doing what you cultists do best; lie to yourself.
What happened to the formatting on page 12 of this thread ? lol
It’s as messy and terrible as a specific posters constant terrible takes, whining and temper tantrums.
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Or, use your brain, which I know is difficult for you and look at the most recent data which is Marner played better vs. Florida than Nylander did.
Florida is who they need to beat to win the East and possibly the Cup.
And Marner, had a GWG and two primary assists on GWG vs Florida. Literally involved in winning THREE games against Florida, something no other team did this year, not even McDavid or Kucherov.
Keep doing what you cultists do best; lie to yourself.Ah so ignore 9 years of data and pick one game he was good. For $13m plus he should be doing more than 1 goal and 2 assist…same with Matthews
Keep on whining.
- Another sign you are useless in terms of understanding what you watch – is that you feel cause Mitchy kills penalties it makes him a good 5v5 defensive player. Nope. Means he is great at PK work in a set structure where there is not as much pace and thinking. Special teams is just that – special teams. It’s not hockey.
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