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June 22, 2025 at 11:22 am #10862
dmnted
ParticipantYou are free to disagree and be wrong.
time will tell who is wrong … in your mind I’m wrong, in mine, I’m correct.
June 22, 2025 at 1:31 pm #10879Unholy_Goalie
Participanttime will tell who is wrong … in your mind I’m wrong, in mine, I’m correct.
Time has already proven you, among many other Leafs fans and the Leafs management wrong.
When Tavares arrived he was the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL, in his prime.
What did he actually accomplish in 7 years?
No awards. Didn’t lead the league in anything. Won one playoff series. Lost seven. Less points than every other core player. Biggest defensive liability too.
How the hell can anyone possibly think he’s worth another chance at 35+ if he’s making anything more than 2 million a year as a pure passenger depth piece?
Corey Perry is the model for how Tavares would be useful to a team going forward. But not at 5-7 million a year. Not anymore.
June 23, 2025 at 8:46 am #10992senstrolltwo
ParticipantCorry Perry at 34 scored 5 goals and was always injured, Tavares just scored 38. is a Center and still a point a game.
I agree once JT is a 10 goal 30 point player, he should be getting 1mil deals. but thats not reality for him right now.JT has been exactly what you expect over the 7 years. If you were expecting awards and scoring titles, thats probably on you
June 23, 2025 at 10:04 am #11007Atomic Wedgie
ParticipantHoly poop, What the hell is going on at the old site?
I mean, I know it’s the off-season, but still.
Calgary blogger saying goodbye.
Edmonton blogger saying goodbye.
Toronto blog with 2 comments, 18 hours in.
Habs blog with 0 comments, 20 hours in.
Flyers blog with 0 comments, 22 hours in.
Ek’s main blog with 3 comments, 20 hours in.
I’m kinda digging Uggie’s theory that it is MiB and Meltzer handing out the bans – it’s really the only thing that makes sense.
June 23, 2025 at 10:50 am #11016MadamStench
ParticipantBoth sites are dead
June 23, 2025 at 11:55 am #11043Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantCorry Perry at 34 scored 5 goals and was always injured, Tavares just scored 38. is a Center and still a point a game.
I agree once JT is a 10 goal 30 point player, he should be getting 1mil deals. but thats not reality for him right now.JT has been exactly what you expect over the 7 years. If you were expecting awards and scoring titles, thats probably on you
Congrats on Tavares scoring 38 regular season goals at 34 years old. How many playoff goals did he score at 34 years old? Oh, the same as Perry? 5? With a 10 million dollar difference in salary? Wow!
Corey Perry, at 34, played 27 playoff games, scored 5 playoff goals and made it to the Cup Final. What did Tavares do against Florida? Oh right, disappeared offensively and sucked balls defensively.
Corey Perry, at 35, played 22 playoff games, scored 10 points and made it to the Cup Final on a Montreal team that beat the Leafs after they collapsed and blew a 3-1 series lead.
Corey Perry, at 36, played 23 playoff games, scored 6 playoff goals and made it to the Cup Final on Tampa Bay, that also beat the Leafs.
Corey Perry, at 38 and 39, went to the Cup Final with Edmonton, scoring a total of 11 playoff goals and 17 playoff points.All those seasons without ever making more than 1.5 AAV, sometimes as low as 775K.
I can guaran-fucking-tee you Tavares won’t be playing 119 playoff games with 28 playoff goals from 35-40, especially at 5-7 AAV a year. Why is that a guarantee? Because from the day he was drafted, up to 34, he only played 75 playoff games with 28 career playoff goals. He couldn’t do it at his best, he won’t be doing shit as he approaches 40.
If a player is the 2nd highest paid player in the NHL, there should be some kind of success otherwise that’s definitely on stupid management.
He can have his regular season stats, he’ll disappear again like he did against Florida. You keep defending a player who absolutely sucks at living up to his hype. Have fun.
June 23, 2025 at 11:59 am #11045Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI’m kinda digging Uggie’s theory that it is MiB and Meltzer handing out the bans – it’s really the only thing that makes sense.
June 23, 2025 at 12:16 pm #11049yes its me 2050
ParticipantI’m kinda digging Uggie’s theory that it is MiB and Meltzer handing out the bans – it’s really the only thing that makes sense.
interesting theory. Ek just sabotaging his site it seems to me. How can he not know what is going on
June 23, 2025 at 12:18 pm #11050senstrolltwo
Participantsome people get ranty when you post simple facts. its nothing to get worked up about. UFAs get offered contracts based on thier reg season production.
players who score 38 goals and 74 points get paid accordinglyJune 23, 2025 at 12:24 pm #11057Atomic Wedgie
Participantsome people get ranty when you post simple facts. its nothing to get worked up about. UFAs get offered contracts based on thier reg season production.
players who score 38 goals and 74 points get paid accordinglyIt is a fact that both Mitch Marner and John Tavares will be given contracts that wildly overpay.
The only debate is whether or not the Leafs are the ones giving that contract to Tavares (Mitchy is so far gone, I can’t even see him).
June 23, 2025 at 12:36 pm #11070Unholy_Goalie
Participantsome people get ranty when you post simple facts. its nothing to get worked up about. UFAs get offered contracts based on thier reg season production.
players who score 38 goals and 74 points get paid accordinglyThe simplest of facts is that the Leafs absolutely suck at building a winning hockey team and far too many people support their methods of stupidity.
It is a fact that both Mitch Marner and John Tavares will be given contracts that wildly overpay.
The only debate is whether or not the Leafs are the ones giving that contract to Tavares (Mitchy is so far gone, I can’t even see him).
The difference being that Marner is at least a two-way player, entering his prime and Tavares is about to be 35+.
Marner, having more career playoff points and 5 straight seasons of 100 points per 82 games, is the better way to spend money.
Vegas will be very happy with Marner. He’ll be raising the Cup like Kadri did before the Leafs ever will again.
June 23, 2025 at 12:40 pm #11072dmnted
ParticipantThe only debate is whether or not the Leafs are the ones giving that contract to Tavares (Mitchy is so far gone, I can’t even see him).
I think JT is gone. He should be signed by now. Could he be looking for 3year deal worth 22.5M
June 23, 2025 at 12:44 pm #11074dmnted
ParticipantMarner, having more career playoff points and 5 straight seasons of 100 points per 82 games, is the better way to spend money.
at what cost.? He disappears when the going get tough in the playoffs. This is fact.
The current Leafs model has not work for the last decade in the playoffs. Time to change it up.June 23, 2025 at 12:49 pm #11081Unholy_Goalie
Participantat what cost.? He disappears when the going get tough in the playoffs. This is fact.
The current Leafs model has not work for the last decade in the playoffs. Time to change it up.It’s not actually a fact because this year against Florida, no other team won 3 games against them. Marner directly helped win 2 of them with a GWG and a primary assist to Matthews. That shows he’s a factor in winning games against the Champs. That’s a guy who is part of the solution, not the problem.
Marner is not the perfect playoff beast. He’s not McDavid. But not even McDavid with his absurd scoring won the Cup and beat Florida, even with Draisaitl putting up the same absurd number of points.
What Marner did do, however, was be part of the 1st line that was clearly, objectively, absolutely not part of the problem. They contained Florida’s top line defensively. And offensively, the Leafs 1st line scored ALL THREE GWGs vs Florida. You keep that line together and you improve the rest of the team by getting rid of the REAL problems like Tavares and Rielly. You could also negotiate a way to trade Nylander too but he’s in his prime so you can afford to keep him for now and still be okay so long as you get him two solid two-way players to make up for his defensive laziness.
Making change for the sake of change makes no sense, especially when that change is one of your best players. That’s like having burnt out light bulbs in your house and changing the bulbs that are still working, hoping that the burnt out light bulbs will start working properly. It won’t work.
Tavares and Rielly are the main problems. Make those REAL changes and actually improve the team.
June 23, 2025 at 12:49 pm #11082senstrolltwo
ParticipantFact is Marner has been part of the methods of stupidity in building a team.
so overpay him again?doesnt make sense to say they suck a one thing then want them to do that same thing
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