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You really can’t make this stuff up. Crest and culture are the way to build a winner. This is the most out of touch franchise in all of sports. Obe that includes the jets, browns, raiders, pirates, and others
The organization just might wanna think about continuing to acquire talent through the draft, that might be more important. That being said, there’s nothing wrong with your coach wanting your players to be proud of the crest they’re representing. I would think every team wants that from their players.
You really can’t make this stuff up. Crest and culture are the way to build a winner. This is the most out of touch franchise in all of sports. Obe that includes the jets, browns, raiders, pirates, and others
The organization just might wanna think about continuing to acquire talent through the draft, that might be more important. That being said, there’s nothing wrong with your coach wanting your players to be proud of the crest they’re representing. I would think every team wants that from their players.
flyers love fans like you. you eat that culture shit up.
after all these years drafting they still can’t ice a good 4th line.
I guess the hope is when Risto returns he can help solidify the 3rd pair, which is a black hole. Juulsen and Zamula just get exposed way too much. If any of the top 4 miss significant time, the team is in deep trouble. York needs to get back sooner then later. I would hope Briere would take this winger surplus depth to address the blueline. I would assume he will try for Hughes first and is waiting to see how that plays out. I would hope Rutherford resolves the Hughes situation before the Olympic break, bot who knows.
Risto is really good. He’s a Top 4 guy here and for a lot of other teams too. He’ll make a difference. Juulsen had a rough 1st period. An errant pass led to the first goal and his penalty led to the 2nd. I’d be shocked if Hughes gets dealt anywhere this season.
We can debate whether is a top 4 Dman as far as play and production. Risto is now 31 and who has played over 70 games once since the ’20-’21 season. I think it is fair to question whether Risto really can be reliable for the duration of his current contract. The better hope I believe is Andrae solidifies his place in the top 4 with the current organizational depth chart.
As far as Hughes, VAN is basically a capped team who is now second worst in the league. Hughes has shown very little eagerness to extend with VAN this summer. In theory, VAN should be able to get better assets from a team that would have Hughes for two potential playoff runs as opposed to one. 1st round picks are nice, but if you are VAN how much value is there with multiple picks in the 20s in a particular draft. I believe when Hughes gets traded it will be similar to the Tkachuk trade with FLA. What would be different in a potential Hughes trade is he has term left on his contract. Tkachuk was traded during the summer when he could sign an extension with FLA. Rutherford should be able to do better from an asset standpoint trading Hughes before this trade deadline. What is the benefit of VAN keeping him past the deadline? Difficult to make the playoffs this season being so low in the standings. Unlikely, Rutherford can build a roster over the summer that can compete with EDM, ANA, or Vegas for next season to just even compete in the division. My personal belief is Rutherford would be foolish not to deal Hughes soon.
Once Hughes is traded, then I believe the next domino to fall would be BUF. Byram or Power would be my guess for the next young Dman with term left to potentially be traded.
We can debate whether is a top 4 Dman as far as play and production. Risto is now 31 and who has played over 70 games once since the ’20-’21 season. I think it is fair to question whether Risto really can be reliable for the duration of his current contract. The better hope I believe is Andrae solidifies his place in the top 4 with the current organizational depth chart.
As far as Hughes, VAN is basically a capped team who is now second worst in the league. Hughes has shown very little eagerness to extend with VAN this summer. In theory, VAN should be able to get better assets from a team that would have Hughes for two potential playoff runs as opposed to one. 1st round picks are nice, but if you are VAN how much value is there with multiple picks in the 20s in a particular draft. I believe when Hughes gets traded it will be similar to the Tkachuk trade with FLA. What would be different in a potential Hughes trade is he has term left on his contract. Tkachuk was traded during the summer when he could sign an extension with FLA. Rutherford should be able to do better from an asset standpoint trading Hughes before this trade deadline. What is the benefit of VAN keeping him past the deadline? Difficult to make the playoffs this season being so low in the standings. Unlikely, Rutherford can build a roster over the summer that can compete with EDM, ANA, or Vegas for next season to just even compete in the division. My personal belief is Rutherford would be foolish not to deal Hughes soon.
Once Hughes is traded, then I believe the next domino to fall would be BUF. Byram or Power would be my guess for the next young Dman with term left to potentially be traded.
For the bulk of his career, Risto has been durable. He played roughly the same number of games last year as York and had a better season.
If I’m VAN, I want two players, a center and a Dman, both younger than Hughes who can step in and play today plus a pick or prospect, maybe both. That’s where I’m starting anyway. VAN still has pending UFAs to get something for before Hughes has to go, plus some teams will have to wait until off season to make their best offer because of the cap.
Vancouver is a shit franchise like the flyers. So far from contending. If you trade hughes you take the best package regardless of position.
Hughes should get a haul by a competent GM if he is traded by the deadline. 2 playoff runs can easily get a contending team over the hump. If a team is close, they may have no problem overpaying a little. As they should. Good GM’s find a way so the cap shouldn’t be any issue.
Vancouver is a shit franchise like the flyers. So far from contending. If you trade hughes you take the best package regardless of position.
Hughes should get a haul by a competent GM if he is traded by the deadline. 2 playoff runs can easily get a contending team over the hump. If a team is close, they may have no problem overpaying a little. As they should. Good GM’s find a way so the cap shouldn’t be any issue.
Hahaha! The Flyers are playing .611 hockey, VAN is playing .417 hockey WITH one of the 5 best Dmen in the league. How does that happen? I thought only teams with elite, difference-making needle movers could win in the NHL. The teams are nothing alike. You don’t what the best offer is until you’ve seen all the offers.
Vancouver is a shit franchise like the flyers. So far from contending. If you trade hughes you take the best package regardless of position.
Hughes should get a haul by a competent GM if he is traded by the deadline. 2 playoff runs can easily get a contending team over the hump. If a team is close, they may have no problem overpaying a little. As they should. Good GM’s find a way so the cap shouldn’t be any issue.
Hahaha! The Flyers are playing .611 hockey, VAN is playing .417 hockey WITH one of the 5 best Dmen in the league. How does that happen? I thought only teams with elite, difference-making needle movers could win in the NHL. The teams are nothing alike. You don’t what the best offer is until you’ve seen all the offers.
2 shit franchises. that is 100% fact. get back to me when the flyers win anything of substance.
really? no shit holmes. whatever it is you don’t limit yourself to accepting a dman and center (like you said). if that isn’t the best package.
As this season progresses, I hope Briere does not pay Dvorak for a career year. Great job by Dvorak taking advantage of his opportunity this season. His career best is 38 points and he turns 30 in February. Dvorak is going to want a multi year deal for his next contract. It would make zero sense to sign an over 30 year old center to a multi year when there already is an over 30 year old center with multiple years left on his contract. Considering this current team is not a real Cup threat, stocking up on over 30 year old center seems like bad business.
As this season progresses, I hope Briere does not pay Dvorak for a career year. Great job by Dvorak taking advantage of his opportunity this season. His career best is 38 points and he turns 30 in February. Dvorak is going to want a multi year deal for his next contract. It would make zero sense to sign an over 30 year old center to a multi year when there already is an over 30 year old center with multiple years left on his contract. Considering this current team is not a real Cup threat, stocking up on over 30 year old center seems like bad business.
4 years for 18-20 million. done deal. book it.
As this season progresses, I hope Briere does not pay Dvorak for a career year. Great job by Dvorak taking advantage of his opportunity this season. His career best is 38 points and he turns 30 in February. Dvorak is going to want a multi year deal for his next contract. It would make zero sense to sign an over 30 year old center to a multi year when there already is an over 30 year old center with multiple years left on his contract. Considering this current team is not a real Cup threat, stocking up on over 30 year old center seems like bad business.
4 years for 18-20 million. done deal. book it.
Dvorak signed 1 yr @ 5.4 million. With the cap rising, I would assume his agent has little interest in lowering that cap with a multi year extension. Considering the lack of center depth in the free agent market, pretty certain Dvorak will be coveted. I agree probably trying to get at minimum a 3 year deal considering his age. This would be an awful decision by the organization unless they trade Cates to improve the roster, which I doubt is going to happen.
– Whoever is the best skating coach in the NHL or wherever, they need to hire him/she asap to work with MM. whoever the current guy is doesn’t seem to be helping much.
– Flyers in the cat birds seat. They should be the favorite coming out of the east. They have an arsenal of assets to use to make moves to strengthen the team. That doesn’t even include getting a legit top 4 dman in RR back in a week or the likely addition of martone in April.
– What will danny boy do to get the “boys” some extra help that they have earned. Brayden Schenn (NMC) perhaps? A Tyler Myers (NMC)? Brady Skjei (NMC)? Would they go for it with a ROR trade? Stay tuned flyer fans.
Dvorak signed 1 yr @ 5.4 million. With the cap rising, I would assume his agent has little interest in lowering that cap with a multi year extension. Considering the lack of center depth in the free agent market, pretty certain Dvorak will be coveted. I agree probably trying to get at minimum a 3 year deal considering his age. This would be an awful decision by the organization unless they trade Cates to improve the roster, which I doubt is going to happen.[/quote]he wants to play for tocchet. you think it is a coincidence he took #22……..
what’s interesting to me is the 3 players responsible for the season so far are external players. is that a good thing? not seeing much progression from the internal players from last year.
MM will be traded. I have no doubt at all. Whether the deadline (as part of a hughes deal) or the summer is the question to me.
God forbid they sell high on Dvorak and get a 1st.
Tocchet has only won one playoff series as a bench boss across nine seasons (excluding this one): with the Vancouver Canucks in 2024. That team, mind you, had a 103-point center, an 89-point center, a Norris Trophy-winning defenseman, and a Vezina Trophy finalist between the pipes. There’s an argument to be made that his system limits ceilings.
I understand a lot of people want to write about hockey but if Tocchet’s systems limit ceilings, how did all that happen in Vancouver?
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