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  • #58211
    VonZipper
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    Dvorak 5 years? Holy crap.

    $5.15M per season over those 5 years, not to mention another player locked up long-term well into his 30s.

    #58265
    yes its me 2050
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    dvorkak
    cates
    ex selke

    that is def a cup contending center group the next 3+ years. absolutely no need to re-sign as soon as he was eligible. Hopefully they get Abols locked up on a 2 year deal. Does this qualify as big game hunting?

    “More importantly, he plays a big role in our locker room and has fit in seamlessly to our group and what we are building.”

    more culture BS. How many “room” leaders are needed?

    #58272
    Trox88
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    I guess Briere just refuses to acknowledge the likelihood of a player falling off a cliff from a production standpoint begins around 33 years old. Oh but look, they can always trade him Dvorak because by year 3 he will have a limited no trade clause. Here’s the issue just because there is an avenue to trade a player at that age, does not mean there will be a market. My current example is Garnet Hathaway.

    Full credit to Dvorak maximizing his value this half season. I guess there was no need to find out whether he could replicate production with other forwards besides just being stapled next to Zegras all season. Three years from now, the odds are extremely high Couts and Dvorak will still be on the roster anchoring the 4th line. Sure the cap is increasing, over $12 million dedicated to the 4th line seems like a bad strategy even if the cap is above $130 million. I do not recall the Panthers spending potentially 8-10% of their cap on their 4th lines.

    #58277
    yes its me 2050
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    I guess Briere just refuses to acknowledge the likelihood of a player falling off a cliff from a production standpoint begins around 33 years old. Oh but look, they can always trade him Dvorak because by year 3 he will have a limited no trade clause. Here’s the issue just because there is an avenue to trade a player at that age, does not mean there will be a market. My current example is Garnet Hathaway.

    Full credit to Dvorak maximizing his value this half season. I guess there was no need to find out whether he could replicate production with other forwards besides just being stapled next to Zegras all season. Three years from now, the odds are extremely high Couts and Dvorak will still be on the roster anchoring the 4th line. Sure the cap is increasing, over $12 million dedicated to the 4th line seems like a bad strategy even if the cap is above $130 million. I do not recall the Panthers spending potentially 8-10% of their cap on their 4th lines.

    but he wanted to be a flyer and play for coach tocchet. that means something in the flyers family.

    “jonesy” and danny boy strutting their feathers around this morning no doubt. flyers are back.

    #58308
    MBFlyerfan1
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    So now they have $16.9 million tied up in three bottom 6 centers for the foreseeable future. Two who will be in their 30’s. I understand the “cap is going up” pablum is supposed to make that more palatable. I don’t have a problem with the cap hit per-se, I just don’t like the term. I think it is 2 years too long, really 3 years, but I doubt they were going to get him for 2 years.

    Add to that the system is chock full of bottom 6 center prospects with no top line 1C or 2C anywhere to be seen, the Flyers have a problem. FA is already bare and they will have to be VERY lucky to find one via trade (without an hefty overpay) or drafting in perpetual “Bubble” land moving forward.

    #58332
    FlyerFrank
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    Add to that the system is chock full of bottom 6 center prospects with no top line 1C or 2C anywhere to be seen, the Flyers have a problem. FA is already bare and they will have to be VERY lucky to find one via trade (without an hefty overpay) or drafting in perpetual “Bubble” land moving forward.

    The Flyers are way ahead of schedule. They have a good 2 years to make that trade or signing. As it is, a big chunk players on the team up and down the lineup are having career years.

    #58336
    yes its me 2050
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    So now they have $16.9 million tied up in three bottom 6 centers for the foreseeable future. Two who will be in their 30’s. I understand the “cap is going up” pablum is supposed to make that more palatable. I don’t have a problem with the cap hit per-se, I just don’t like the term. I think it is 2 years too long, really 3 years, but I doubt they were going to get him for 2 years.

    Add to that the system is chock full of bottom 6 center prospects with no top line 1C or 2C anywhere to be seen, the Flyers have a problem. FA is already bare and they will have to be VERY lucky to find one via trade (without an hefty overpay) or drafting in perpetual “Bubble” land moving forward.

    8.75 tk
    5.1 dvorak
    7.75 ex selke
    6.2 tippet

    how much cap space do those 4 eat up the next 3+ years?

    flyers way ahead of schedule? what schedule is that? this is just another move to keep the mediocrity wheels spinning. imagine thinking dvorak is a key/core player. Flyers evalauto9ns and process are total garbage. love when peeps argue otherwise.

    Cant wait for the berglund is a potential #1 center article to come out or what not

    playoffs > cup in flyers land

    #58339
    FlyerFrank
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    8.75 tk
    5.1 dvorak
    7.75 ex selke
    6.2 tippet

    how much cap space do those 4 eat up the next 3+ years?

    Next year, about 28% for 4 of your top 9 forwards. Will get lower after that as the cap goes up.

    flyers way ahead of schedule? what schedule is that? this is just another move to keep the mediocrity wheels spinning. imagine thinking dvorak is a key/core player. Flyers evalauto9ns and process are total garbage. love when peeps argue otherwise.

    Cant wait for the berglund is a potential #1 center article to come out or what not

    playoffs > cup in flyers land

    You keep making these claims, the Flyers keep playing .600 hockey. That will get them into the playoffs.

    #58350
    yes its me 2050
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    8.75 tk
    5.1 dvorak
    7.75 ex selke
    6.2 tippet

    how much cap space do those 4 eat up the next 3+ years?

    Next year, about 28% for 4 of your top 9 forwards. Will get lower after that as the cap goes up.

    flyers way ahead of schedule? what schedule is that? this is just another move to keep the mediocrity wheels spinning. imagine thinking dvorak is a key/core player. Flyers evalauto9ns and process are total garbage. love when peeps argue otherwise.

    Cant wait for the berglund is a potential #1 center article to come out or what not

    playoffs > cup in flyers land

    You keep making these claims, the Flyers keep playing .600 hockey. That will get them into the playoffs.

    its not about position its the quality of players. 28% and not one even close elite player in that group. I love will the cap goes up so that justifies it mind set. if your already using that nonsense then it was a bad deal from the start

    get back to me in april. every team in the east conf is above .500. very little separation. go flyers brick by brick

    if the flyers miss the playoffs, since they control their own destiny, would it be an organizational failure at this stage?

    #58355
    FlyerFrank
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    its not about position its the quality of players. 28% and not one even close elite player in that group. I love will the cap goes up so that justifies it mind set. if your already using that nonsense then it was a bad deal from the start

    get back to me in april. every team in the east conf is above .500. very little separation. go flyers brick by brick

    if the flyers miss the playoffs, since they control their own destiny, would it be an organizational failure at this stage?

    Konecny is scoring at .9 PPG and is a +11, Tippett is on pace for 26 goals, Dvorak is having a career year. Hate to tell you, but those are not unreasonable cap hits in today’s market. Couturier got himself a nice deal, for sure. Get back to me in three years. Hahaha!

    April gets closer every day.

    Depends on how it happens if it does at all. Flyers still aren’t deep, so the wrong injury to the wrong guy could still derail them. That would not be an organizational failure at this point.

    #58433
    Flyers4Ever
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    Another win, but haters gonna hate! 🤷🏽‍♂️

    #58468
    yes its me 2050
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    its not about position its the quality of players. 28% and not one even close elite player in that group. I love will the cap goes up so that justifies it mind set. if your already using that nonsense then it was a bad deal from the start

    get back to me in april. every team in the east conf is above .500. very little separation. go flyers brick by brick

    if the flyers miss the playoffs, since they control their own destiny, would it be an organizational failure at this stage?

    Konecny is scoring at .9 PPG and is a +11, Tippett is on pace for 26 goals, Dvorak is having a career year. Hate to tell you, but those are not unreasonable cap hits in today’s market. Couturier got himself a nice deal, for sure. Get back to me in three years. Hahaha!

    April gets closer every day.

    Depends on how it happens if it does at all. Flyers still aren’t deep, so the wrong injury to the wrong guy could still derail them. That would not be an organizational failure at this point.

    TK contract is fine (though not an elite player). Tippet not so much. he may be the most irrelevant 20 goal scorer in flyers history. love pace. he is s future 40 goal scorer who hasnt even cracked 30.

    sitting n 3rd place and if they miss isnt a failure? interesting take since the playoffs were the goal from day 1.

    #58469
    yes its me 2050
    Participant

    Another win, but haters gonna hate! 🤷🏽‍♂️

    the pat to represent the EC in the cup finals goes through philly.

    can’t wait to see briere work some magic at the deadline.

    #58494
    FlyerFrank
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    sitting n 3rd place and if they miss isnt a failure? interesting take since the playoffs were the goal from day 1.

    If they get swamped by injuries, no failure. If they don’t and the wheels just fall off the wagon then yes.

    #58504
    yes its me 2050
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    sitting n 3rd place and if they miss isnt a failure? interesting take since the playoffs were the goal from day 1.

    If they get swamped by injuries, no failure. If they don’t and the wheels just fall off the wagon then yes.

    Fair enough

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