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well rick, is that not on you and how you coach? As well as how you want them to play? they seem just as neutered as with the prior coach.
Tocchet deserves credit for improving the team defense. However, his teams shots per game has been lower top 5 over multiple seasons. This is not a coincidence. This was a major concern when the interview process was happening and Tochet was the front runner. I do not know exactly what the plan is for Michkov going forward. Supposedly, he is the foundation of the franchise going forward and on the second game of a back to back, it was a good idea to place him with Abols and Dvorak. I guess this is supposed to help him in his development. For the season, Michkov is playing under 15 minutes/game. He is being treated as a middle six forward on a team that has a clear abundance of middle six wingers. The organization seeks shelter for itself by stating they want to be better, but do not have to make the playoffs this year. Perfect mantra for an organization with an overwhelming amount of limited forwards to continue to play and hope to be an average team. Better to play safe players then give more minutes to players like Michkov, Grebenkin, and Andrae and see if they can lift the performance of the team.
Looking at the attendance numbers to start the season, the regime is losing the bet they are giving the fanbase an appealing product. After opening night, attendance has not broken above 18,009. Come see your future superstar play less then 15 minutes a game. Seems like a sketchy plan.
Tocchet deserves credit for improving the team defense. However, his teams shots per game has been lower top 5 over multiple seasons. This is not a coincidence. This was a major concern when the interview process was happening and Tochet was the front runner. I do not know exactly what the plan is for Michkov going forward. Supposedly, he is the foundation of the franchise going forward and on the second game of a back to back, it was a good idea to place him with Abols and Dvorak. I guess this is supposed to help him in his development. For the season, Michkov is playing under 15 minutes/game. He is being treated as a middle six forward on a team that has a clear abundance of middle six wingers. The organization seeks shelter for itself by stating they want to be better, but do not have to make the playoffs this year. Perfect mantra for an organization with an overwhelming amount of limited forwards to continue to play and hope to be an average team. Better to play safe players then give more minutes to players like Michkov, Grebenkin, and Andrae and see if they can lift the performance of the team.
Looking at the attendance numbers to start the season, the regime is losing the bet they are giving the fanbase an appealing product. After opening night, attendance has not broken above 18,009. Come see your future superstar play less then 15 minutes a game. Seems like a sketchy plan.
is it him or is it the goalie making it look better?
mind boggling.
focus is playoffs only. not anything long or medium term.
Tocchet deserves credit for improving the team defense. However, his teams shots per game has been lower top 5 over multiple seasons. This is not a coincidence. This was a major concern when the interview process was happening and Tochet was the front runner. I do not know exactly what the plan is for Michkov going forward. Supposedly, he is the foundation of the franchise going forward and on the second game of a back to back, it was a good idea to place him with Abols and Dvorak. I guess this is supposed to help him in his development. For the season, Michkov is playing under 15 minutes/game. He is being treated as a middle six forward on a team that has a clear abundance of middle six wingers. The organization seeks shelter for itself by stating they want to be better, but do not have to make the playoffs this year. Perfect mantra for an organization with an overwhelming amount of limited forwards to continue to play and hope to be an average team. Better to play safe players then give more minutes to players like Michkov, Grebenkin, and Andrae and see if they can lift the performance of the team.
Looking at the attendance numbers to start the season, the regime is losing the bet they are giving the fanbase an appealing product. After opening night, attendance has not broken above 18,009. Come see your future superstar play less then 15 minutes a game. Seems like a sketchy plan.
is it him or is it the goalie making it look better?
mind boggling.
focus is playoffs only. not anything long or medium term.
The PK has been really good so far. I don’t mind a PK not scoring goals. I thought the whole “Power Kill” mantra was silly. Allowing goalies to see the puck as opposed to expecting every player on the ice to act as a human shield seems like a better idea.
After that, yeah the offensive woes I place a lot of blame on the HC. I get the sense that he is implying not enough guys are going to the net, which he refers to as the “hard area”. Well, he inherited a roster with few net front guys to begin with, so somehow it is a shock because most of the top 6 guys with skill are below 200 lbs. Not sure it makes sense to expect most of these forwards to camp out and try to tip shots from the point. Couts and Cates, I expect could fit that bill. Grebenkin could, but Tocchet has shown an unwillingness to play him minutes. Foerster and Tippett have size, but have never really been a major part of their games. Zegras, Mickhkov, TK, and Brink will go and make plays in the center of the ice, but expecting them to camp at the crease constantly just is unrealistic. Much like the previous HC, is the current HC adjusting his style of play to his players, or do the players have to bend to his will.
The issue going forward is this brand of hockey is boring with the occasional elevated shooting % game. From the current list of top 9 forwards on the NHL roster and the AHL, the regime would have to severely reshape the forwards to play Tocchet’s style of hockey he seems intent on installing. So far at the gate, the fanbase does not seem overly enthused with this HC and brand of hockey. The supposed future star of the team has played like 1 shift in 4 OT games. Even watching the games at home, I want to see the potential star play as much as possible in another regular season that it is a fact this team is not a serious contender. He has already “earned” that right to play more from his rookie season last season. He deserves the chance to play out of his slump because if Michkov does not pan out as at least a PP/game player, this rebuild or retool is finished. Martone turning out to be a stud and the consummate scoring power forward will not be enough to carry the team to being a contender if Michkov does not work. The rest of the forward group is not talented enough to make up that gap if Michkov cannot elevate to near elite level. TK going into his 30s is not going to find enough consistency to be that guy. Foerster could be a really good two way forward, but his playmaking ability is not top tier. Brink doubtful becomes even a 60 pt guy. Zegras has shown 60 point ability in the past. Tippett will be 27 is this going to be year 1 of consistently being a 30 goal scorer- highly uncertain. Couts is an older fine 3C. Cates is a younger, but not exactly young anymore fine 3C.
https://www.thefourthperiod.com/nov-2025/kings-exploring-market-for-winger
Well, the Flyers are certainly a team LA needs to call. Considering this is Kopitar’s last season and if they want any chance to finally go thru EDM, I would expect the Kings would be looking for a scoring forward. Need to pull off another Zegras trade because the spending spree in the summer of ’26 in free agency is already a bust.
Well, the Flyers are certainly a team LA needs to call. Considering this is Kopitar’s last season and if they want any chance to finally go thru EDM, I would expect the Kings would be looking for a scoring forward. Need to pull off another Zegras trade because the spending spree in the summer of ’26 in free agency is already a bust.
thing is danny boy “loves” his roster. Making an actually hockey trade is difficult on his end.
keep in mind they want to make the playoffs. doubt move anyone unless a player who can play right now comes back in any deal. don’t see the flyers doing much while “in” the playoff race. if anything, they made trade a pick/prospect to improve. many teams want to add. We shall see if danny boy is smart and/or shrewd. sham they ould have zero interest in moving ex selke. with so many teams needing a center he may have inflated value.
The PK has been really good so far. I don’t mind a PK not scoring goals. I thought the whole “Power Kill” mantra was silly. Allowing goalies to see the puck as opposed to expecting every player on the ice to act as a human shield seems like a better idea.
After that, yeah the offensive woes I place a lot of blame on the HC. I get the sense that he is implying not enough guys are going to the net, which he refers to as the “hard area”. Well, he inherited a roster with few net front guys to begin with, so somehow it is a shock because most of the top 6 guys with skill are below 200 lbs. Not sure it makes sense to expect most of these forwards to camp out and try to tip shots from the point. Couts and Cates, I expect could fit that bill. Grebenkin could, but Tocchet has shown an unwillingness to play him minutes. Foerster and Tippett have size, but have never really been a major part of their games. Zegras, Mickhkov, TK, and Brink will go and make plays in the center of the ice, but expecting them to camp at the crease constantly just is unrealistic. Much like the previous HC, is the current HC adjusting his style of play to his players, or do the players have to bend to his will.
The issue going forward is this brand of hockey is boring with the occasional elevated shooting % game. From the current list of top 9 forwards on the NHL roster and the AHL, the regime would have to severely reshape the forwards to play Tocchet’s style of hockey he seems intent on installing. So far at the gate, the fanbase does not seem overly enthused with this HC and brand of hockey. The supposed future star of the team has played like 1 shift in 4 OT games. Even watching the games at home, I want to see the potential star play as much as possible in another regular season that it is a fact this team is not a serious contender. He has already “earned” that right to play more from his rookie season last season. He deserves the chance to play out of his slump because if Michkov does not pan out as at least a PP/game player, this rebuild or retool is finished. Martone turning out to be a stud and the consummate scoring power forward will not be enough to carry the team to being a contender if Michkov does not work. The rest of the forward group is not talented enough to make up that gap if Michkov cannot elevate to near elite level. TK going into his 30s is not going to find enough consistency to be that guy. Foerster could be a really good two way forward, but his playmaking ability is not top tier. Brink doubtful becomes even a 60 pt guy. Zegras has shown 60 point ability in the past. Tippett will be 27 is this going to be year 1 of consistently being a 30 goal scorer- highly uncertain. Couts is an older fine 3C. Cates is a younger, but not exactly young anymore fine 3C.
Even if everything does work they aren’t a contender. Can you tell me who the Franchise center or franchise dman is on this roster? Not who is the best center or dman on the team, but who is their Austin Mathews, Connor McDavid, Barkov, Crosby, Makar, Ekblaad, etc? The answer is those players aren’t on the roster and that there are no realistic plans to acquire that talent.
What they can be, if everything works out, is “in the mix” to make the playoffs. That’s their ceiling. Making the playoffs would be their Stanley Cup. They can spin that to keep the fans attention and make money. That is their only goal. I don’t even think it will be possible for the next guy to do an actual rebuild even if they want to as the team has cried wolf too many times.
tocchet is torts with just better communication skills.
They may figure something out….but the mix of this team does not seem to be working minus cates/brink/tyson. Glad Zegras is here. I know it wasn’t the trade, but seeing how Cutter is doing so far; Zegras putting up points makes it easier to swallow I guess.
I know you can’t hit on every draft pick. But it seems like we are shooting below par when it comes to our 1st and early 2nd round picks. Just hope we win the lottery this year.
So do they try and extend Brink? From an on ice performance standpoint makes sense. However, Zegras is adding to the glut of wingers because the HC seems determined not to allow him to be a full time center. The extensions of TK and Tippett were they the right move? TK’s has a NTC and Tippett has a limited no trade this summer. I guess they could make Martone “earn it” next season by starting him in the AHL or on the 4th line. Did I mention Grebenkin is a unique forward who wins board battles at a rate that only Foerster can match.
Full credit to the top 4 Dmen carrying the load. Would be nice to use some of these wingers and get a Dman who can move Seeler down to the 3rd pair. I am not hopeful they can solve the center problem other then continue to draft them and hope to develop. Players like Eichel only become available under extraordinary circumstances. That is not a viable plan.
So do they try and extend Brink? From an on ice performance standpoint makes sense. However, Zegras is adding to the glut of wingers because the HC seems determined not to allow him to be a full time center. The extensions of TK and Tippett were they the right move? TK’s has a NTC and Tippett has a limited no trade this summer. I guess they could make Martone “earn it” next season by starting him in the AHL or on the 4th line. Did I mention Grebenkin is a unique forward who wins board battles at a rate that only Foerster can match.
Full credit to the top 4 Dmen carrying the load. Would be nice to use some of these wingers and get a Dman who can move Seeler down to the 3rd pair. I am not hopeful they can solve the center problem other then continue to draft them and hope to develop. Players like Eichel only become available under extraordinary circumstances. That is not a viable plan.
no fn way to both.
flyers have no plan. their big free agency plan has been blown up. Who will they sign as the next hayes.
So do they try and extend Brink? From an on ice performance standpoint makes sense. However, Zegras is adding to the glut of wingers because the HC seems determined not to allow him to be a full time center. The extensions of TK and Tippett were they the right move? TK’s has a NTC and Tippett has a limited no trade this summer. I guess they could make Martone “earn it” next season by starting him in the AHL or on the 4th line. Did I mention Grebenkin is a unique forward who wins board battles at a rate that only Foerster can match.
Full credit to the top 4 Dmen carrying the load. Would be nice to use some of these wingers and get a Dman who can move Seeler down to the 3rd pair. I am not hopeful they can solve the center problem other then continue to draft them and hope to develop. Players like Eichel only become available under extraordinary circumstances. That is not a viable plan.
no fn way to both.
flyers have no plan. their big free agency plan has been blown up. Who will they sign as the next hayes.
If Briere does not move Tippett before his modified NTC clause kicks in it will be a mistake. He will be 27 soon, and he might get 30 goals in a season. However, his playmaking ability or defensive awareness is not going to improve. TK is sunk cost at this point, who will only be moved if he asks to go. A new coaching staff playing him in all situations even at the expense of giving shifts to players who need to develop for the team to be a contender. He is not going anywhere anytime soon.
On a somewhat separate note, still wait and see what the regime does with Dvorak. Clearly, the HC values him this season, which makes me believe why would he not want him next season. A smart GM trades him for assets at the deadline because this team is not a serious contender this season or next season with Dvorak in a top 9 role. For me the choice is easy, see how it plays out.
TK is a loser. Tippet should have never been given 8 years. horrible contract.
dvorak will get 3/4 years at 4.5 per. another flyers special. he “wants” to be here.
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