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July 12, 2025 at 6:10 am #16183
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ParticipantCap space matters but I can see the Flyers getting a 3rd round pick for Dvorak at the deadline if they don’t eat any cap for the rest of the season, maybe a conditional 2nd from a bona fide contender (AKA a late second-rounder) that is willing to overpay to take a run at the Cup. Big centers who can score a few goals in the playoffs and also kill penalties tend to draw overpayments as rentals.
July 10, 2025 at 5:10 pm #15924FlyerFrank
ParticipantDvorak is a meaningless add to me. Doesn’t do anything to move the team forward. Wasn’t needed.
Cap space does matter. Limits what you can do all year. Maybe a player falls out of favor or vice versa. Can use it to be a middle man. Never know when a deal may pop up. Someone unexpected goes on waivers. Limits what you can do at the deadline
They still have wiggle room with the cap. They can waive guys on minimum+ deals and replace them with minimum contract guys. It’s not a lot but there’s some flexibility. Not sure what impact player is going to fall into anybody’s lap this year and the Flyers won’t be buyers at the deadline. Dvorak does fill a need, expensively and short term sure, but he fills it. Was I disappointed with the goalie and defense need fills? Sure, but how much turnover can any team really do in one off season? Maybe a third of the team, 6 or 7 guys, tops? The Flyers might have four. Let’s see what happens but it’s still three months off.
July 10, 2025 at 4:54 pm #15916
yes its me 2050Participant– The only major addition is Zegras. Is the master plan they will hit a grand slam in 2026 free agency?
– Completely capped out. No playoffs for 5 years. Will be 6.
– Would have been better to not sign Dvorak and keep the extra space.
– York ext was good on flyers end. Though can’t see them being contenders within that 5 year window.
– Wonder what kind of extension they will end up giving Zegras and when. I ride it all year as do not see any hurry to go down that road.
Dvorak, on paper, looks like a good add. Enough offense and he can win face offs. He could be a 3rd line center if Cates flips to left wing. Hahahaha! Yes, the one year deal is inflated. They might have been able to get roughly the same for a lot less but Tocchet likes him. For a year, I’m OK with it. It doesn’t matter they’re up against the cap because they have $6-7M in dead space going away next year, which more than covers any Zegras increase and gives them $5.75M plus any cap increase for next year to add more UFAs. Clearly, a big part of any current plan is more comprehensive coaching and development. That isn’t counted against the cap. I still think they needed a big addition on D, but it didn’t happen. We’ll see how it goes.
Dvorak is a meaningless add to me. Doesn’t do anything to move the team forward. Wasn’t needed.
Cap space does matter. Limits what you can do all year. Maybe a player falls out of favor or vice versa. Can use it to be a middle man. Never know when a deal may pop up. Someone unexpected goes on waivers. Limits what you can do at the deadline
July 10, 2025 at 3:10 pm #15880FlyerFrank
Participant– The only major addition is Zegras. Is the master plan they will hit a grand slam in 2026 free agency?
– Completely capped out. No playoffs for 5 years. Will be 6.
– Would have been better to not sign Dvorak and keep the extra space.
– York ext was good on flyers end. Though can’t see them being contenders within that 5 year window.
– Wonder what kind of extension they will end up giving Zegras and when. I ride it all year as do not see any hurry to go down that road.
Dvorak, on paper, looks like a good add. Enough offense and he can win face offs. He could be a 3rd line center if Cates flips to left wing. Hahahaha! Yes, the one year deal is inflated. They might have been able to get roughly the same for a lot less but Tocchet likes him. For a year, I’m OK with it. It doesn’t matter they’re up against the cap because they have $6-7M in dead space going away next year, which more than covers any Zegras increase and gives them $5.75M plus any cap increase for next year to add more UFAs. Clearly, a big part of any current plan is more comprehensive coaching and development. That isn’t counted against the cap. I still think they needed a big addition on D, but it didn’t happen. We’ll see how it goes.
July 10, 2025 at 8:08 am #15824
yes its me 2050Participant– The only major addition is Zegras. Is the master plan they will hit a grand slam in 2026 free agency?
– Completely capped out. No playoffs for 5 years. Will be 6.
– Would have been better to not sign Dvorak and keep the extra space.
– York ext was good on flyers end. Though can’t see them being contenders within that 5 year window.
– Wonder what kind of extension they will end up giving Zegras and when. I ride it all year as do not see any hurry to go down that road.
July 2, 2025 at 3:25 pm #14875FlyerFrank
ParticipantI think the key here is the two years. Lyon also got two years and apparently wanted to come back.
I’ve seen a bit more of Lyon with him playing in the east. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Vladar play a game although some folks did talk him up as an option. Neither were in my top 3-4 choices. The lack of games per year looks like a sticking point. The guys I liked better have more more games in a season. I think the Flyers may need a guy who can go 50 games or more depending on Ersson.
July 2, 2025 at 3:18 pm #14870black_francis
ParticipantVladar is below the .900 save percentage benchmark and is no proven workhorse. Not much to say here. The biggest need fill is the most disappointing. He was really good down the stretch in occasional duty. Somebody on the Flyers likes him though.
I think the key here is the two years. Lyon also got two years and apparently wanted to come back.
Either way, all these signings help with our chances for McKenna.
Pettersen also got a deal with Minny
July 2, 2025 at 3:04 pm #14857FlyerFrank
ParticipantDvorak played pretty well for Tocchet in AZ so you know where that tip came from. Seems to put up enough offense to be a 3rd line center rather than a 4th. He’s great on faceoffs which is a need. This spot was well filled. Say hello to your new left wing: Noah Cates. Hahaahahha!
Juulsen is another Tocchet guy from VAN. He obviously likes this guy and loves Rierden as a D coach. Underwhelmed with this need fill. Straight up defensive Dman. Only 157 games in at 28. We’ll see.
Vladar is below the .900 save percentage benchmark and is no proven workhorse. Not much to say here. The biggest need fill is the most disappointing. He was really good down the stretch in occasional duty. Somebody on the Flyers likes him though.
July 2, 2025 at 2:53 pm #14850black_francis
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You’ve made it your whole personality. When you criticize nothing moves so you have something to whine about. All credibility lost. It shows your complete lack of understanding of what’s going on lol
Flyers suck! See you here tomorrow!
July 2, 2025 at 2:50 pm #14849TheBigE
ParticipantPelletier signed with tampa for 3 years
wish him the best was a good guy
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