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June 5, 2025 at 10:04 am #8001
PDO Speedwagon
ParticipantI left my horse out in the rain, but thankfully I remembered to store all of the tack in the barn.
You might say I have a DRY SADDLE.
June 5, 2025 at 10:05 am #8002Cush29
ParticipantBut, I’m cheering for Florida. Is my MVP award revoked?!?! – MVP Whipper
No but it’s under protest for you cheering for a Marchand cup win.
I want to see that rat cry, same for Tkachuk and Bennett. Fuck Florida they got their cup they can go sit on the beach and have sand crabs to bite them right in the pee hole for all I care about them. lol
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June 5, 2025 at 10:06 am #8004Scabeh
ParticipantIt suggests that Marner outperformed his $10.9m contract by providing $12m in value. Since I think ALL of Dom’s valuations are too high by around 15%, I think Marner probably was providing closer to $10m in value – which feels about right, because those who favour him have no problem with him getting north of $12.5m and those who don’t like him think that $8m is about right.
I’ve never been a fan of Dom’s model and I think you’re right about him over/under evaluating players by a margin.
If you only consider regular season success, I think Marner was paid close to what he brought to the table. Tavares was clearly overpaid but still produced enough to be considered a success as far as UFA signing goes.
It truly is the playoffs results that make these numbers don’t work as you cannot pay these salaries to player and never see them take over a game and give you a chance to win it all. The only player that did it on the Leafs was Nylander but it was also followed by disappearing acts at other times…. where a show of force from Matthews or Marner would have made the difference, probably.
June 5, 2025 at 10:11 am #8006Cush29
ParticipantI left my horse out in the rain, but thankfully I remembered to store all of the tack in the barn.
You might say I have a DRY SADDLE.-PDO Speedwagon
bahahaha good one.
On a semi-serious note anyone suggesting Marner is anywhere near worth what Dry Saddle is must be smoking some serious crack.
Watching Mc David and Dry Saddle and comparing them to Matthews and Marner is simply looking at ‘how it should be done’ vs ‘how it doesn’t get done’.
Maybe a Matthews / Willy combo would work better – it would be more like Dry Saddle and McJesus if you think about it. Marner rarely shoots and has an absolute muffin of a shot when he does but Willy can snipe with the best in the league and is a very underrated playmaker. Matthews is an excellent playmaker and as we know an incredible sniper (when healthy).
I hope once Marner is gone AM and WN are put together and we can see.
June 5, 2025 at 10:49 am #8010fifty mission cap
ParticipantThey’ve had nine years to mix and match this core. The combinations don’t matter – these players simply do not elevate. It’s a personality and character thing, not a talent and chemistry thing.
June 5, 2025 at 10:49 am #8011Atomic Wedgie
ParticipantWe all need to stop talking about Marner.
Let’s talk about Maple Leafs players instead.
June 5, 2025 at 11:05 am #8013Big23Questions
ParticipantMaybe a Matthews / Willy combo would work better – it would be more like Dry Saddle and McJesus
Oh for Christ sake, it wouldnt be like that at all. Watch the games.
June 5, 2025 at 11:36 am #8018WHIPPER
ParticipantNo but it’s under protest for you cheering for a Marchand cup win.
~CushThat is the unfortunate, unintended consequence of a personally much needed Oiler loss.
June 5, 2025 at 11:36 am #8019dmnted
ParticipantMy gawd the leagues has ruined any momentum they had for the finals with the long break and the upcoming schedule is even worse.
Next game tomorrow, ok good thats normal.
Game 3 Monday? WTF
Game 4 Thursday? Jesus
Game 5 Saturday – ok back to normal
Game 6 Tuesday 17th – Jesus
Game 7 on JUNE 20th!!!! WTF..I get the NBA finals are on…but gimme a break
~fakeI said the same thing to myself. Like 3 weeks. Talk about milking the cow.
June 5, 2025 at 11:39 am #8020WHIPPER
ParticipantFor the record, for many years in Edmonton some have wanted Drai run out of town for lazy backchecks and defensive play, much like some say about Slick Willy.
You don’t hear anyone slagging Drai these days. Just saying…
June 5, 2025 at 12:02 pm #8024Cush29
ParticipantMaybe a Matthews / Willy combo would work better – it would be more like Dry Saddle and McJesus
Oh for Christ sake, it wouldnt be like that at all. Watch the games.
Just calm your tits, you disagree with me which is fine but you don’t have to be an absolute twat about it.
That being said I probably shouldn’t be surprised considering you are the type of person to open an account here using someone else’s user name from the other place just to be a knob.
June 5, 2025 at 12:06 pm #8025Cush29
ParticipantThey’ve had nine years to mix and match this core. The combinations don’t matter – these players simply do not elevate. It’s a personality and character thing, not a talent and chemistry thing. -FIDDYCENT
Your not wrong on the first point at all and I fear you may not be on the other 2 but they are stuck with what they have to some degree so I’d like to at least see them cross off the next thing they haven’t tried enough of to see (confirm if you view the glass half empty) that it doesn’t change things.
Marner will likely be gone so maybe this change + new blood can turn the ship enough to miss the iceberg of having all this talent for all these years and jack shit to show for it.
#beleaf?
lol
June 5, 2025 at 12:07 pm #8026Cush29
ParticipantWe all need to stop talking about Marner.
Let’s talk about Maple Leafs players instead.-AW
lol
You just need the drum sound after this post – ba da dum, tiss……
June 5, 2025 at 12:10 pm #8030Cush29
ParticipantFor the record, for many years in Edmonton some have wanted Drai run out of town for lazy backchecks and defensive play, much like some say about Slick Willy.
You don’t hear anyone slagging Drai these days. Just saying… – Whipper Mc Marner
Truth.
June 5, 2025 at 12:19 pm #8035PDO Speedwagon
ParticipantWhat I ordered : McJesus and DrySaddle
What I got : Matthews and Marner
Seriously though, the Leafs have never been able to roll four lines during the Core Four era. This roster is still very top heavy. If you shut down the Leafs top two lines, then they have nothing to answer with. Look at recent Cup winners: Tampa, Florida, Colorado, Vegas. None of them were nearly as top heavy as the Leafs. I mean, Marchand is on the third line in Florida.
And this lack of depth was true even with Marner in the lineup.
Subtract Marner and add two or three scrubs and the problem remains.
I hope Tree has a few tricks to pull out of his hat.
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