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  • #8001
    PDO Speedwagon
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    I left my horse out in the rain, but thankfully I remembered to store all of the tack in the barn.

    You might say I have a DRY SADDLE.

    #8002
    Cush29
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    But, I’m cheering for Florida. Is my MVP award revoked?!?! – MVP Whipper

    No but it’s under protest for you cheering for a Marchand cup win.

    I want to see that rat cry, same for Tkachuk and Bennett. Fuck Florida they got their cup they can go sit on the beach and have sand crabs to bite them right in the pee hole for all I care about them. lol

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    #8004
    Scabeh
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    It suggests that Marner outperformed his $10.9m contract by providing $12m in value. Since I think ALL of Dom’s valuations are too high by around 15%, I think Marner probably was providing closer to $10m in value – which feels about right, because those who favour him have no problem with him getting north of $12.5m and those who don’t like him think that $8m is about right.

    I’ve never been a fan of Dom’s model and I think you’re right about him over/under evaluating players by a margin.

    If you only consider regular season success, I think Marner was paid close to what he brought to the table. Tavares was clearly overpaid but still produced enough to be considered a success as far as UFA signing goes.

    It truly is the playoffs results that make these numbers don’t work as you cannot pay these salaries to player and never see them take over a game and give you a chance to win it all. The only player that did it on the Leafs was Nylander but it was also followed by disappearing acts at other times…. where a show of force from Matthews or Marner would have made the difference, probably.

    #8006
    Cush29
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    I left my horse out in the rain, but thankfully I remembered to store all of the tack in the barn.

    You might say I have a DRY SADDLE.-PDO Speedwagon

    bahahaha good one.

    On a semi-serious note anyone suggesting Marner is anywhere near worth what Dry Saddle is must be smoking some serious crack.

    Watching Mc David and Dry Saddle and comparing them to Matthews and Marner is simply looking at ‘how it should be done’ vs ‘how it doesn’t get done’.

    Maybe a Matthews / Willy combo would work better – it would be more like Dry Saddle and McJesus if you think about it. Marner rarely shoots and has an absolute muffin of a shot when he does but Willy can snipe with the best in the league and is a very underrated playmaker. Matthews is an excellent playmaker and as we know an incredible sniper (when healthy).

    I hope once Marner is gone AM and WN are put together and we can see.

    #8010
    fifty mission cap
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    They’ve had nine years to mix and match this core. The combinations don’t matter – these players simply do not elevate. It’s a personality and character thing, not a talent and chemistry thing.

    #8011
    Atomic Wedgie
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    We all need to stop talking about Marner.

    Let’s talk about Maple Leafs players instead.

    #8013
    Big23Questions
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    Maybe a Matthews / Willy combo would work better – it would be more like Dry Saddle and McJesus

    Oh for Christ sake, it wouldnt be like that at all. Watch the games.

    #8018
    WHIPPER
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    No but it’s under protest for you cheering for a Marchand cup win.
    ~Cush

    That is the unfortunate, unintended consequence of a personally much needed Oiler loss.

    #8019
    dmnted
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    My gawd the leagues has ruined any momentum they had for the finals with the long break and the upcoming schedule is even worse.
    Next game tomorrow, ok good thats normal.
    Game 3 Monday? WTF
    Game 4 Thursday? Jesus
    Game 5 Saturday – ok back to normal
    Game 6 Tuesday 17th – Jesus
    Game 7 on JUNE 20th!!!! WTF..

    I get the NBA finals are on…but gimme a break
    ~fake

    I said the same thing to myself. Like 3 weeks. Talk about milking the cow.

    #8020
    WHIPPER
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    For the record, for many years in Edmonton some have wanted Drai run out of town for lazy backchecks and defensive play, much like some say about Slick Willy.

    You don’t hear anyone slagging Drai these days. Just saying…

    #8024
    Cush29
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    Maybe a Matthews / Willy combo would work better – it would be more like Dry Saddle and McJesus

    Oh for Christ sake, it wouldnt be like that at all. Watch the games.

    Just calm your tits, you disagree with me which is fine but you don’t have to be an absolute twat about it.

    That being said I probably shouldn’t be surprised considering you are the type of person to open an account here using someone else’s user name from the other place just to be a knob.

    #8025
    Cush29
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    They’ve had nine years to mix and match this core. The combinations don’t matter – these players simply do not elevate. It’s a personality and character thing, not a talent and chemistry thing. -FIDDYCENT

    Your not wrong on the first point at all and I fear you may not be on the other 2 but they are stuck with what they have to some degree so I’d like to at least see them cross off the next thing they haven’t tried enough of to see (confirm if you view the glass half empty) that it doesn’t change things.

    Marner will likely be gone so maybe this change + new blood can turn the ship enough to miss the iceberg of having all this talent for all these years and jack shit to show for it.

    #beleaf?

    lol

    #8026
    Cush29
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    We all need to stop talking about Marner.

    Let’s talk about Maple Leafs players instead.-AW

    lol

    You just need the drum sound after this post – ba da dum, tiss……

    #8030
    Cush29
    Participant

    For the record, for many years in Edmonton some have wanted Drai run out of town for lazy backchecks and defensive play, much like some say about Slick Willy.

    You don’t hear anyone slagging Drai these days. Just saying… – Whipper Mc Marner

    Truth.

    #8035
    PDO Speedwagon
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    What I ordered : McJesus and DrySaddle

    What I got : Matthews and Marner

    Seriously though, the Leafs have never been able to roll four lines during the Core Four era. This roster is still very top heavy. If you shut down the Leafs top two lines, then they have nothing to answer with. Look at recent Cup winners: Tampa, Florida, Colorado, Vegas. None of them were nearly as top heavy as the Leafs. I mean, Marchand is on the third line in Florida.

    And this lack of depth was true even with Marner in the lineup.

    Subtract Marner and add two or three scrubs and the problem remains.

    I hope Tree has a few tricks to pull out of his hat.

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