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Chicago would be my prevered trading partner if possible.
For trading down to or for trading Matthews and Nylander?
They already have Bedard and have tanked multiple times. Don’t think they care enough about McKenna or Stenberg to trade up. Also, they probably want to push to make the playoffs so they’d be more likely to trade for established guys like Matthews and Nylander than another 18 year old.
I think if the Leafs retain 50% on Matthews and Nylander, they could create a huge bidding war. Every single contender would be throwing the farm at us for either one for a cap hit under 7 AAV.
Get a bit of an Alexis Lafreniere feeling from McKenna. McKenna is tiny, he can’t play defense, his effort has been shit at times, especially when things get tough from what I saw at the WJC. Seems to be a runner up despite everybody saying he’s the best player on the ice and a scoring machine. I’ve seen that movie before in Toronto. It doesn’t end well.
Stenberg isn’t that much bigger (20lbs heavier though) but his stats from the SHL show he put up more points than H. Sedin, Backstrom, Carlsson and Lindholm at 18 and he can play two-way hockey. He also comes from a pretty solid hockey family, his dad played pro in Sweden, his older brother is about to be a full time NHLer with St. Louis and his younger brother is also a top prospect for his age. Could be a little bit of Swedish Staal brothers going on here. Question mark with him is how well he can play on the smaller ice but he did play pretty good on smaller ice at the WJC and won the Gold.
If the Leafs don’t trade down, Sundin may be the swing vote to go Swedish on this one and I wouldn’t blame him. I don’t think either one of them are guaranteed superstars in the NHL. Neither one makes the Leafs a contender overnight and both should probably continue development rather than jump directly into the NHL and play 82 games.
But trading down for a RHD like Chase Reid or Keaton Verhoeff would be very nice. Both look like they could fill a huge gap in the Leafs prospect pool as either mobile, offensive D or huge, two-way D with a big shot from the point. That plus another good asset whether it’s a late 1st round pick or a multitude of picks could help restock the Leafs farm system which is pretty much empty. Just don’t think anybody is desperate enough for McKenna to trade that much to move up.
The only teams that could make it work is the Rangers or the Canucks. They both have top 5 picks and a late 1st round pick. Considering the Leafs don’t have their own 1st in the next two drafts, getting another 1st to trade down a couple spots and still end up with a solid RHD top prospect would be a good deal.
Looks like we’re running out of steam. Two emotional days and now it’s hibernation time, until June. Do we care about any of the series? Maybe hoping that Buffalo smites Montreal. Carolina is a bore. Anaheim vs Vegas is the kiddies table series. The winner gets swept by the victor of Colorado vs Minnesota. The only final that would be acceptable is Minnesota vs Buffalo.
Cap ceiling is confirmed up to 104 million per year. Cap floor is 76.9 AAV. Max salary is now 20.8 AAV.
Mckenna Stenberg comps
Trade Rielly to Van for Petterson if Van Retains 2mil
add remove whatever makes it feel more evenEw. No.
Sundin should only bring the good Swedes. The shit ones can stay in Vanpoover.
Unfortunately, I think Matthews gets you none of those packages. Constant injuries, and a contract way out of line with his performance diminishes that return significantly. I still think he has to go.
The LA proposal would be the closest but I would be thrilled to get Byfield and 1 first, nevermind 2.
This is incorrect.
Matthews still has insane value. The majority of contenders would throw the Leafs all kinds of future picks, prospects and young roster players to acquire him. It makes A LOT of sense to trade Matthews at the 2027 draft for maximum value. A realistic return on Matthews would be very, very good. Here are the reasons why.
Any team that acquires Matthews would only have to pay him 450K in real dollars. Yes, that’s right, 450K for one of the best snipers of this generation. With Matthews’ salary being almost entirely upfront signing bonuses, whatever team acquires Matthews will pay him next to nothing in real dollars. Additionally, if the Leafs retain 50% of his cap hit (who cares, they would be rebuilding if they trade him anyway) then his cap hit will be an absurd 6.625 AAV. And then, if all of that wasn’t already good enough, whatever team acquires him has the time to negotiate an 8 year extension which he might finally accept as he exits his prime years. This allows any team that acquires him to “go for it” with Matthews making peanuts in real dollars and a 50% cap hit discount for 1 year as a rental and/or add him long term with time to make the space for him to fit.
Now imagine a scenario where Utah, Anaheim, LA or San Jose want Matthews to contend with the big boys in the West and the other big boys in the West find out about that. Do you think Colorado could move 6.625 AAV to acquire Matthews, even as a 1 year rental? Same goes for Dallas, Minnesota, Vegas and Edmonton. You could have 6-8 teams in the West throwing offers at you left, right and center, all trying to out bid the other contenders in the West. And then, you might have some insane offer from one or two teams in the East if a contender wants to make a huge splash like Carolina.
If you look at what Rantanen got (Stankoven (under 23 roster player), two 1sts and two 3rds), Matthews could easily get that as an ABSOLUTE MINIMUM and probably get way more through a bidding war and contract retention is 50%.
I think two 1st round picks, a bluechip top prospect and a young (under 23) roster player is fair value for Matthews with a 6.625 cap hit and exclusive rights to negotiate an 8 year extension. Basically, four 1st round picks which would be standard value for a high value player signing an offer sheet as an example.
Leafs could do the same with Nylander by retaining 50% of his salary. If the Leafs are rebuilding, the cap hit will help them reach the floor and his new team will get Nylander for 5.75 AAV which again makes him insanely valuable to a contender who would have to pay a premium for that kind of talent and the reduced cap hit. Another minimum of three 1st round pick level assets.
Leafs really dont have a choice now but to try and get back to the playoffs.
I am not convinced Matthews wants out, and I understand if he wants to be on a team that is going for it.I think you keep him (and Nylander) for this coming season and see how it plays out. And if you cant sign AM, you move him after the season or TDL whatever.
Having #1 pick changes a lot
The division is even stronger now. Making the playoffs is a pipe dream. Matthews does want to “go for it” but the Leafs don’t have anything to trade to change the team. UFAs won’t fix this team, they won’t want to sign here without a massive overpayment and the Leafs have already made that mistake too many times to count.
Matthews should want out and the Leafs should want to move him too. It’s what is best for both parties. Matthews just needs to have one good season to rebuild his value and then he should be gone. Nylander should be right behind him out the door for all the same reasons but less valuable given his obvious flaws of never playing defense.
I see the pedo is on here with his xbox NHL 26 trade suggestions.
Get back to reality, loser.I think Stenberg is the better option, or trade down for a dman and get an extra pick.
The leafs arent trading matthews unless he says he wants out.
I see FakeAOC is still a complete libtard.
Matthews should want out and the Leafs would be way better off trading him than running out the last two years of his deal being mediocre. They need a rebuild and Matthews needs a new team. He’s become Phil Kessel. Leafs need the future assets more than they need one guy who can’t win a Cup by himself. Same goes for Nylander.
