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they can 100% be buyers if it fits longer term; as they should. they have very little to sell.
if they are in the playoff “mix” I can easily see them buying to an extent and moving out some picks/prospects (not their “high” end ones)
Forwards develop faster. They’re within a year or two of having some surplus players to put a decent trade package together. They’ve got plenty of forward prospects. Likely more than enough will develop to fill any holes and the remainder becomes trade bait. This is clearly the plan. Still not sure how it’s a problem.
quantity is not greater than quality. majority are of the vanilla variety. nothing special. every team has those types. you act like all these picks will turn into nhl players. majority will not. flyers have shown the do not trade their “prospects”. do they ever sell high on someone they drafted?
there is no plan.
quantity is not greater than quality. majority are of the vanilla variety. nothing special. every team has those types. you act like all these picks will turn into nhl players. majority will not. flyers have shown the do not trade their “prospects”. do they ever sell high on someone they drafted?
there is no plan.
You only have to fill so many roster spots. You don’t need to have every prospect turn into a “special” player. Michkov already is, and Martone will deliver. That’s two out of those five Top 13 picks. Should Luckanko and Nesbitt become adequate regulars in their roles, that’s a plenty good result. Drysdale, the vaunted “puck-moving” defenseman, is gonna Drysdale.
quantity is not greater than quality. majority are of the vanilla variety. nothing special. every team has those types. you act like all these picks will turn into nhl players. majority will not. flyers have shown the do not trade their “prospects”. do they ever sell high on someone they drafted?
there is no plan.
You only have to fill so many roster spots. You don’t need to have every prospect turn into a “special” player. Michkov already is, and Martone will deliver. That’s two out of those five Top 13 picks. Should Luckanko and Nesbitt become adequate regulars in their roles, that’s a plenty good result. Drysdale, the vaunted “puck-moving” defenseman, is gonna Drysdale.
no MM is not a special player at this time. he may be in the future. what will martone deliver?
those results will not be good enough. adequate will not be good enough. not sure why you can’t see that.
no MM is not a special player at this time. he may be in the future. what will martone deliver?
those results will not be good enough. adequate will not be good enough. not sure why you can’t see that.
There’s always a chance Michkov could get injured. He scored 26 goals in the best league in the world at 19-20. He should top that at 20-21. He has better offense around him. There’s no reason to think Martone can’t do roughly the same. They’ll both be among the top 4 goal scorers on this team soon enough. It’s not elite offensive skill the Flyers lack. The top 4 goal scorers last year with CAR and FLA had 103 and 106. The Flyers had 95 with some upside on the way. It’s overall team D, the defensemen and the goaltending that need to get better now. If you want to complain, not sure why you aren’t complaining about that. If things don’t go much better defensively, it’s another tanked season. Keeping it vague and superficial I guess.
With the acquisition of Trevor Zegras, there’s also a good chance the Flyers found stability at center.
The finesse/skill guy seeking redemption story arc hasn’t exactly played out well historically here… VLC, Sam Gagner, Zherdev, Hayes, Filppula, Daigle, Nedved, etc were all chewed up and spit back out. Zegras has more stick skill than all of those guys but there’s still a better chance he bombs here than not.
@ yes its me 2050
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how it all plays out. For me they are headed down the right direction, you just have to continually build until you get the right combination of players, that’s a slow process. The Oilers had what, five 1st overall picks and they still haven’t won the Cup. From 2010 to 2015, inclusive, Florida drafted 3rd, 23rd, 2nd, 1st & 11th overall and it still took them eleven years after they drafted Barkov 2nd overall to get the right combo of players and coach. I hope I’m right and you’re wrong. They need to draft a #1 center though, or trade for one. All that being said, this is nowhere near a finished product, they just started.
The Oilers have been in the Stanley Cup final the last 2 years though so they are contenders. They just need to be better at building the rest of their roster to get over the hump. This keeps getting lost as it seems everyone wants instant gratification. Drafting the corner stone player starts the process, it doesn’t finish it. You don’t draft someone and think that the next year you are going to win a Stanley Cup. It will be years after the player is drafted and even then there is no guarantee. It takes sacrifice from the team to be able to draft those players. Do people think the Flyers, in a year or 2, are going to draft a McDavid or Crosby in the 2nd or 3rd round and the Flyers will be good to go? Lol
Also, let’s be clear, DB thought the Flyers roster was on the upswing last year before they pooped the bed. He spent the last 2 years getting rid of players Torts didn’t like and getting players he did before Torts gave him the 2 fingered salute on the way out of town. He’s announced they are done getting rid of players and are now in buy mode. For all those vaunted draft picks and rumors that the Flyers had plenty of ammo to move up to get a franchise player, it was never going to happen. Teams just don’t trade away the shot to get the franchise player who could be a corner stone for 20 years for quantity.
DB doesn’t know how to build a quality team but he’s got one of the best PR firms in the world with Comcast backstopping him. And unlike Fletcher, he’s media friendly so that buys him time. You don’t think he’s going to Fletcher this team and “bias for action” as soon as he has money especially after announcing their in buy mode? They are capped out now and will be capped out next year when DB is done. He may or may not make better choices than Fletcher but one thing is for sure true franchise centers and true franchise defensemen hitting FA are about as rare as top 3 draft picks being traded.
no MM is not a special player at this time. he may be in the future. what will martone deliver?
those results will not be good enough. adequate will not be good enough. not sure why you can’t see that.
There’s always a chance Michkov could get injured. He scored 26 goals in the best league in the world at 19-20. He should top that at 20-21. He has better offense around him. There’s no reason to think Martone can’t do roughly the same. They’ll both be among the top 4 goal scorers on this team soon enough. It’s not elite offensive skill the Flyers lack. The top 4 goal scorers last year with CAR and FLA had 103 and 106. The Flyers had 95 with some upside on the way. It’s overall team D, the defensemen and the goaltending that need to get better now. If you want to complain, not sure why you aren’t complaining about that. If things don’t go much better defensively, it’s another tanked season. Keeping it vague and superficial I guess.
has nothing to do with getting injured. right now, he is not a special player. not sure why that is hard to accept at the moment.
Martone will also be a special player? is that what you’re saying?
who give a shit if they are in the top 4 scoring on a shit team. means less than nothing.
yes, the flyers lack elite offensive skill. to say otherwise is mind boggling. you really really overrate the flyers forwards.
the entire team needs to get better not just the goalies and defenseman.
the entire team needs to get better not just the goalies and defenseman.
You claim the Flyers top goal scorers aren’t “needle movers” or “special” yet their production is close enough to the top goal scorers on the two teams that went to the conference finals in the East with upside on the way. This team will be fun to watch this year even if the D and G band aids don’t work as well as hoped. Worst case scenario: Dump at the deadline for more future assets and you still have your own Top 16 pick.
the entire team needs to get better not just the goalies and defenseman.
You claim the Flyers top goal scorers aren’t “needle movers” or “special” yet their production is close enough to the top goal scorers on the two teams that went to the conference finals in the East with upside on the way. This team will be fun to watch this year even if the D and G band aids don’t work as well as hoped. Worst case scenario: Dump at the deadline for more future assets and you still have your own Top 16 pick.
no need to claim. it’s a fact. you need to really stop comparing the flyers to top teams. its laughable.
yeah fun to watch. such a high-octane offense. can’t wait to be entertained.
who are they dumping at the deadline? wow that top 16 pick will franchise altering.
no need to claim. it’s a fact. you need to really stop comparing the flyers to top teams. its laughable.
yeah fun to watch. such a high-octane offense. can’t wait to be entertained.
who are they dumping at the deadline? wow that top 16 pick will franchise altering.
The difference between how the top teams play, especially FLA, is the biggest difference between them and the Flyers. FLA supports the puck like a pack of demons. The Flyers do not. Supporting the puck isn’t some elite “needle-moving” skill only Top 5 overall draft picks can master. You should watch the regular season and playoff games closely this year. You might learn something about NHL hockey.
Dvorak and possibly Risto could get them picks if it comes to that.
no need to claim. it’s a fact. you need to really stop comparing the flyers to top teams. its laughable.
yeah fun to watch. such a high-octane offense. can’t wait to be entertained.
who are they dumping at the deadline? wow that top 16 pick will franchise altering.
The difference between how the top teams play, especially FLA, is the biggest difference between them and the Flyers. FLA supports the puck like a pack of demons. The Flyers do not. Supporting the puck isn’t some elite “needle-moving” skill only Top 5 overall draft picks can master. You should watch the regular season and playoff games closely this year. You might learn something about NHL hockey.
Dvorak and possibly Risto could get them picks if it comes to that.
in bold is so comical. yep, not a big talent discrepancy at all.
yeah, maybe I will watch. then I can possibly learn. my guess it will tell me the same thing. flyers are 2000 lightyears away from any point of contention.
that is a truckload of players to move out. flyers can really set themselves up for the future by moving those 2. they have zero interest in moving RR. I hope they re-sign him. shit hope they re-sgin dvorak as well.
in bold is so comical. yep, not a big talent discrepancy at all.
yeah, maybe I will watch. then I can possibly learn. my guess it will tell me the same thing. flyers are 2000 lightyears away from any point of contention.
that is a truckload of players to move out. flyers can really set themselves up for the future by moving those 2. they have zero interest in moving RR. I hope they re-sign him. shit hope they re-sgin dvorak as well.
Yeah, there is a big talent discrepancy too. FLA’s sixth highest scoring forward was Anton Lundell. For the Flyers, it’s Bobby Brink. Talented team or not, you get the best possible results playing the game the right way. The Flyers have to get that right and I’m pretty confident in Tocchet and staff’s chances of making that happen.
in bold is so comical. yep, not a big talent discrepancy at all.
yeah, maybe I will watch. then I can possibly learn. my guess it will tell me the same thing. flyers are 2000 lightyears away from any point of contention.
that is a truckload of players to move out. flyers can really set themselves up for the future by moving those 2. they have zero interest in moving RR. I hope they re-sign him. shit hope they re-sgin dvorak as well.
The Flyers are just going to outwork everyone to the Stanley Cup, talent be damned. That’s the message Torts and the Flyers have been peddling the last 3 years. It’s crazy how the Flyers and their fans are the only people who know this secret. That’s why they’ve been so successful. Just don’t let the rest of the league know.
::facepalm::
The Flyers are just going to outwork everyone to the Stanley Cup, talent be damned.
Yes, that’s the answer. Make the Ice Capades fans happy with lots of “puck moving” defensemen and highly skilled, speedy forwards who weigh less than most of the players on the US Women’s National Team. That’s a sure formula for a Cup win.
The Flyers are just going to outwork everyone to the Stanley Cup, talent be damned.
Yes, that’s the answer. Make the Ice Capades fans happy with lots of “puck moving” defensemen and highly skilled, speedy forwards who weigh less than most of the players on the US Women’s National Team. That’s a sure formula for a Cup win.
the flyers formula is a way not to win a cup. 100% verified. but hey those big players the flyers drafted in 2025 will get them over the top in 3 years.
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