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August 23, 2025 at 1:08 pm #22702
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ParticipantCan’t wait for preseason. Here “boosh” and the rest talk up Macdonald, vlader, and the rest of the irrelevant players.
How this year is different. How geat tocchet will be for this team. A new era of orange
August 23, 2025 at 3:54 pm #22730Flyers_01
ParticipantHahahaha! I’m not discounting Buium. He may prove to be a great fit in MIN but you’re trashing the team over them selecting Luchanko over Buium when neither has proved anything in the pros . .. oh wait, Luchanko was pretty good in the playoffs for LHV. They were both drafted high enough, they should both have a 90% chance of being NHL regulars. We already have the Buium type Dman here and I would rather have a center than a duplicate of that. This is not complicated.
I am not discounting Luchanko as a player, just as the BPA when the Flyers drafted. Buium was a consensus steal at a position of critical need, outside of the Flyers war room. They even traded out of their spot to avoid taking him. This has the making of when the Eagles selected Reagor over Justin Jefferson because Raegor was a better fit despite JJ being the consensus better talent. Roseman publicly admitted that after that embarrassing screwup he switched from drafting for fit to BPA and it’s worked out pretty well for him. God forbid the Flyers learn anything from the Eagles.
Jett playing in a few AHL playoff games has no bearing on his NHL potential or career. Hopefully he has improved from the shitshow he was when they tried to force him onto the roster last year. The Flyers need him to pan out but even if he does. When does the actual rebuild start? Still no #1 Center, #1 D, #1 goalie. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
August 23, 2025 at 4:24 pm #22731FlyerFrank
ParticipantJett playing in a few AHL playoff games has no bearing on his NHL potential or career. Hopefully he has improved from the shitshow he was when they tried to force him onto the roster last year. The Flyers need him to pan out but even if he does. When does the actual rebuild start? Still no #1 Center, #1 D, #1 goalie. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
Then neither does Buium’s 4 inconsequential playoff games where he chipped in one PP assist. Six points in 7 AHL playoff games at 18 is still nothing to turn your nose up at. Zegras is the 1C, Sanheim is the 1D until further notice. Zegras has to get back to the .75 PPG offensive level and surpass it at least a little. There aren’t that many defensemen in the league better than Sanheim. There are about 225 NHL defensemen in any given season. How many are better than Sanheim? I see Top 20 lists without Sanheim on it, but I wouldn’t trade him straight up for some guys I see there.
August 23, 2025 at 8:04 pm #22733VonZipper
ParticipantThen neither does Buium’s 4 inconsequential playoff games where he chipped in one PP assist. Six points in 7 AHL playoff games at 18 is still nothing to turn your nose up at. Zegras is the 1C, Sanheim is the 1D until further notice. Zegras has to get back to the .75 PPG offensive level and surpass it at least a little. There aren’t that many defensemen in the league better than Sanheim. There are about 225 NHL defensemen in any given season. How many are better than Sanheim? I see Top 20 lists without Sanheim on it, but I wouldn’t trade him straight up for some guys I see there.
FWIW, recently saw a fantasy hockey list where Sanheim was listed at #61 (his average ranking) with his highest ranking being #55. Seems about right to me… on a good team, he’s a 2 at best.
August 24, 2025 at 10:21 am #22800MBFlyerfan1
ParticipantJett playing in a few AHL playoff games has no bearing on his NHL potential or career. Hopefully he has improved from the shitshow he was when they tried to force him onto the roster last year. The Flyers need him to pan out but even if he does. When does the actual rebuild start? Still no #1 Center, #1 D, #1 goalie. Rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
Then neither does Buium’s 4 inconsequential playoff games where he chipped in one PP assist. Six points in 7 AHL playoff games at 18 is still nothing to turn your nose up at. Zegras is the 1C, Sanheim is the 1D until further notice. Zegras has to get back to the .75 PPG offensive level and surpass it at least a little. There aren’t that many defensemen in the league better than Sanheim. There are about 225 NHL defensemen in any given season. How many are better than Sanheim? I see Top 20 lists without Sanheim on it, but I wouldn’t trade him straight up for some guys I see there.
Just so Im clear here, you aren’t actually comparing AHL playoff games to NHL playoff games are you? They aren’t even in the same realm of reality.
As for Zegras, its not even a guarantee he stays at center.
August 24, 2025 at 10:22 am #22801FlyerFrank
ParticipantFWIW, recently saw a fantasy hockey list where Sanheim was listed at #61 (his average ranking) with his highest ranking being #55. Seems about right to me… on a good team, he’s a 2 at best.
A fantasy hockey list???!!! Sounds authoritative. Sanheim played for Canada at 4 Nations. Not sure who didn’t play for reasons of their own or injury, but when you get selected to make a Canadian national team there is no way in hell you’re 55 to 61 in the entire league. He’s easily in the top 10 percent, roughly Top 20-25, based on that alone plus the role and minutes he played here. The Canadian and US defenses were stacked. Sweden and Finland not so much as Risto was selected for Finland as an example. Although I would say Risto was the Flyers 2nd best defenseman last year, ahead of York.
August 24, 2025 at 11:15 am #22807FlyerFrank
ParticipantJust so Im clear here, you aren’t actually comparing AHL playoff games to NHL playoff games are you? They aren’t even in the same realm of reality.
As for Zegras, its not even a guarantee he stays at center.
I’m comparing Buium to Luchanko based on what’s available. Buium was inconsequential in 4 games, then scratched for 2, and Luchanko was a needle mover for LHV in 7. Both guys will be players but you’re trashing the Luchanko pick, right now, based on your feels. We’ll see who does what this year. Zegras will be the 1C here this season. It’s astonishing how poorly ANA was coached under Cronin and Clune although I’m getting some second hand dope there. It shows up in the numbers though. ANA’s special teams misery index was 61. The worst possible number is 64. The Flyers was 50. Jersey was at 5.
August 24, 2025 at 11:46 am #22814MBFlyerfan1
ParticipantJust so Im clear here, you aren’t actually comparing AHL playoff games to NHL playoff games are you? They aren’t even in the same realm of reality.
As for Zegras, its not even a guarantee he stays at center.
I’m comparing Buium to Luchanko based on what’s available. Buium was inconsequential in 4 games, then scratched for 2, and Luchanko was a needle mover for LHV in 7. Both guys will be players but you’re trashing the Luchanko pick, right now, based on your feels. We’ll see who does what this year.
You and I have very different definitions of “needle mover”. Luchanko was basically invisible in the Hershey series, picking up 2 assists in 5 games and once again looking overwhelmed against a decent AHL team. He has a long way to go. Meanwhile Zeev Buium was playing over 13 minutes a night against the Golden Knights, holding his own (-1) in 4 games played in the NHL playoffs, as a defenseman. Luchanko should be tearing up the AHL if we expect him to be a consequential player at the NHL level.
The two aren’t remotely comparable.
August 24, 2025 at 12:02 pm #22822FlyerFrank
ParticipantThe two aren’t remotely comparable.
The best comp will be the package of Buium and Perrault against Bonk and Luchanko but it’s way to early to judge. Of course, you already made your judgment: Flyers Suck!
August 24, 2025 at 12:52 pm #22831yes its me 2050
ParticipantThe two aren’t remotely comparable.
The best comp will be the package of Buium and Perrault against Bonk and Luchanko but it’s way to early to judge. Of course, you already made your judgment: Flyers Suck!
no they get judged on an individual basis. not a package.
facts hurt for flyers fans. it is a fact they stink. how can one argue otherwsie.
August 24, 2025 at 1:43 pm #22845Flyers_01
Participantno they get judged on an individual basis. not a package.
facts hurt for flyers fans. it is a fact they stink. how can one argue otherwsie.
Based on all publicly available information. Pedigree, traits, track record, projections, etc. The Flyers chose poorly. Is that future 100% written in stone? No, but for the love of god I wish some fans would have a basis of opinion that’s more than just wishful thinking.
August 25, 2025 at 7:46 am #22912yes its me 2050
Participantno they get judged on an individual basis. not a package.
facts hurt for flyers fans. it is a fact they stink. how can one argue otherwsie.
Based on all publicly available information. Pedigree, traits, track record, projections, etc. The Flyers chose poorly. Is that future 100% written in stone? No, but for the love of god I wish some fans would have a basis of opinion that’s more than just wishful thinking.
at the end of the day IMO the flyers do not value talent first or not the #1 reason to draft a player. might not even be in their top 2.
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