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Sure, if you’re a piece of shit.
What they did was still very suspect.
A judge says otherwise..
Everything about this case wreaks of failure. Two juries were dismissed, judge seemed to bias against the girl, many things were ruled inadmissible.
I agree with this and it never should have gone to trail.. The crown prosecutor wasted everyone’s time and money
“I do not find the evidence of E.M. credible or reliable,” Carrocia told the court. “Considering the evidence in this trial as a whole, I conclude that the Crown cannot meet its onus on any of the counts.”
None of these guys will be signed by the leafs. I know ug loves his rapist and molesters, but sorry bud these sacks of crap arent going to be leafs. So save us the pages of your stupidity.
Don’t care if they are signed by the Leafs… Calling them rapists is a joke since they were not even charged with that but were acquitted. You clearly seem to think that everything the girl said is true and everything the guys did was illegal even though the legal system stated the opposite.
Maybe you should be come a judge so you can just accept the facts that you deem relevant to the outcome that you are predisposed to.
If they were actually guilty of rape(or if anyone else is) They should have been locked up and never been released. But in the same vein it has been proven over and over through the “Me Too” movement that Men are not automatically guilty because of a women claim.
As in was in this case the testimony and evidence was weak and the witness unreliable.
Everything about your argument wreaks of stupidity, bias and adherence to the cult mentality. People like you are why the justice system exists, to protect people from idiots like you.
You wanted them to be guilty, you were wrong so now you’re going to pretend they’re guilty anyway, regardless of the facts and the outcome.
None of these players will help the leafs win…so who cares.
Leafs arent signing them…end of story.
Find something else to whine about.So, being the hypocrite that you are, when Matthews pulls his pants down in public like a drunken idiot, you don’t care because you beLeaf he will help the Leafs win games. But if the players aren’t good enough, ban them for life.[/quote]
As per usual you are wrong and moronic.
I didnt care what the outcome was, the trial was turning into a circus…so i personally didnt want any particular outcome.
But it figures you are comparing mooning someone to what took place with those 5 guys and 1 girl.
Such a simpleton.The leafs arent signing these 4th liners…..stop whining at the clouds.
99% huh? McLeod texted all the players in London asking if they wanted to come up to his room to join a 3-way. Most stayed away. A few came up but didn’t participate. 5 did. I think your math is a bit off.
Now you’re being willfully obtuse which is a common tactic among the usual suspects around here. He obviously didn’t literally mean 99%.
There are two sets of decisions, one in court and one by the league and teams.
The judge’s decision came down to her conclusion that EM was not drunk enough or afraid enough to invalidate her consent. The actions of the players was not in question.
The league and teams will decide simply on the basis of their behaviour. Do they believe that behaviour reflects the “highest standards of morality, honesty, fair play and sportsmanship and is not detrimental to the best interests of the team, league and professional hockey” as required in player contracts. I don’t think it’s obvious that Gary says yes. The fact that they’re fairly marginal players shouldn’t matter but probably will. The PA will appeal and who knows how long it might get drawn out. If they are allowed to play will any team sign them?
The NHL has already fucked these guys over by assuming their guilt and pulling them from the NHL while the case was pending. They already trampled over the presumption of innocence. Now they’re going to shit on them again even after they’re found not guilty. You want to talk about “high standards of morality”? That’s a load of shit for morality.
Define “highest standards of morality”. Good fucking luck. That’s a completely vague, subjective standard the NHL can use to fit whatever bullshit box they need it to fit in. It’s slimly, legalese terminology designed just to basically do whatever they want without having an actual definition.
The actions by these players happened SEVEN YEARS ago when they were in their late teens. They aren’t the same people anymore. They haven’t done anything “immoral” since even though that’s a stupid standard to have because morality is vague and different for everyone. There are people who think having children out of wedlock or divorce is immoral. We going to ban all those players? I think it’s immoral to brandish the flag of a group of people who advocate for the sexual mutilation of children and mascaraed it as “gender affirming health care”. Ban them too?
If they were found guilty, there might be an argument for a brief suspension but they were found not guilty. They have been out of the league for a long time. Consider that time served and let them resume their careers. Let the social justice warriors bitch and moan in the dog days of summer and after a week it’ll be forgotten in place of the next woke moral crisis.
Doesn’t matter if YOU forgive them.
This is kinda my point.. There is nothing to forgive.. The error here was made by
1) The initial police investigation(Which was half assed)
2) Hockey Canada
3) The crown prosecutor that decided to try the case based of a civil settlement that the players didnt even know about.The judge did everything but come out and call her a liar.
These guys had their names dragged through the mud and likely have permanent harm to their reputation when they did nothing wrong but party with the wrong.
The NHL is now saying they are ineligible to play because they has consensual sex with a woman. Guess they will need to shut the league down and suspend 99% of the players. My assumption at this point is consensual sex with a man puts you in a marginalized group and that then makes it ok.
I cannot believe I am on the same side of this argument as UG. I feel dirty.
99% huh? McLeod texted all the players in London asking if they wanted to come up to his room to join a 3-way. Most stayed away. A few came up but didn’t participate. 5 did. I think your math is a bit off.
There are two sets of decisions, one in court and one by the league and teams.
The judge’s decision came down to her conclusion that EM was not drunk enough or afraid enough to invalidate her consent. The actions of the players was not in question.
The league and teams will decide simply on the basis of their behaviour. Do they believe that behaviour reflects the “highest standards of morality, honesty, fair play and sportsmanship and is not detrimental to the best interests of the team, league and professional hockey” as required in player contracts. I don’t think it’s obvious that Gary says yes. The fact that they’re fairly marginal players shouldn’t matter but probably will. The PA will appeal and who knows how long it might get drawn out. If they are allowed to play will any team sign them?
I wonder how many people were upset that OJ was never put back on the NFL broadcasts after he was acquitted.
Sure, if you’re a piece of shit.
What they did was still very suspect.
Everything about this case wreaks of failure. Two juries were dismissed, judge seemed to bias against the girl, many things were ruled inadmissible.
None of these guys will be signed by the leafs. I know ug loves his rapist and molesters, but sorry bud these sacks of crap arent going to be leafs. So save us the pages of your stupidity.Everything about your argument wreaks of stupidity, bias and adherence to the cult mentality. People like you are why the justice system exists, to protect people from idiots like you.
You wanted them to be guilty, you were wrong so now you’re going to pretend they’re guilty anyway, regardless of the facts and the outcome.
None of these players will help the leafs win…so who cares.
Leafs arent signing them…end of story.
Find something else to whine about.So, being the hypocrite that you are, when Matthews pulls his pants down in public like a drunken idiot, you don’t care because you beLeaf he will help the Leafs win games. But if the players aren’t good enough, ban them for life.
Doesn’t matter if YOU forgive them.
This is kinda my point.. There is nothing to forgive.. The error here was made by
1) The initial police investigation(Which was half assed)
2) Hockey Canada
3) The crown prosecutor that decided to try the case based of a civil settlement that the players didnt even know about.The judge did everything but come out and call her a liar.
These guys had their names dragged through the mud and likely have permanent harm to their reputation when they did nothing wrong but party with the wrong.
The NHL is now saying they are ineligible to play because they has consensual sex with a woman. Guess they will need to shut the league down and suspend 99% of the players. My assumption at this point is consensual sex with a man puts you in a marginalized group and that then makes it ok.
I cannot believe I am on the same side of this argument as UG. I feel dirty.
Actually, being found not guilty and still being suspended makes them a minority group so to remain diverse, equitable and inclusive, they should be allowed to play.
Feels dirty to be correct? You’ll adapt.
Yeah, because the Leafs lost billions of dollars, relocated the team and Matthews got traded when he pulled down his pants in public like a drunken loser in front of a female security guard. Oh wait…that never happened because they actually don’t. The building would still be full, ticket prices unchanged. The beers would be too. And the media deal will still be paid, in full. The amount of raging lunatics online (most of which don’t actually drive real revenue except for articles farming rage click bait) no longer matter. All it takes is for some time to pass and they move on to the next thing to rage about like a cat chasing a laser pointer. But yeah, physical people no longer matter, I’m sure the online bots that generate comments to sway the opinions of simpletons will start buying seasons tickets.
Many people here found ways of brushing it off like it didn’t matter. Why? Because the high and mighty morality police looked the other way when it’s an elite player but won’t afford the same for average players who were not only deemed NOT GUILTY but also have earned a second chance as this entire joke of a trial was for something that happened SEVEN YEARS ago and they’ve never done anything even remotely like that again since while under NHL contract. Matthews did that while under NHL contract at 22 after signing a huge contract and being a new face of the league, not as an 18 year old. But you and many others didn’t call for Matthews to be suspended, traded or ineligible to play. Patrick Kane? Casey Cizikas? Long list of players the SJW should be protesting but don’t. Because they don’t actually matter.
There’s millions of people who watch the Leafs because they love the Leafs and want to see the Leafs win. The same reasons that make millions of blind homers think losing elite players and replacing them with garbage will turn the tide and beLeaf “this is the year” will make them accept giving these players another chance if it improves the hockey team.[/quote]
None of these players will help the leafs win…so who cares.
Leafs arent signing them…end of story.
Find something else to whine about.This will be completely unpopular but….People are shitting on these guys because when they were kids they had a girl that wanted to party. 95% of 17-18 year olds would have done the same thing under the same circumstance. The only crime here was the fact that they lost years of salary. This has been a shit show clown circus right from the beginning.
Sure, if you’re a piece of shit.
What they did was still very suspect.
Everything about this case wreaks of failure. Two juries were dismissed, judge seemed to bias against the girl, many things were ruled inadmissible.
None of these guys will be signed by the leafs. I know ug loves his rapist and molesters, but sorry bud these sacks of crap arent going to be leafs. So save us the pages of your stupidity.Doesn’t matter if YOU forgive them.
This is kinda my point.. There is nothing to forgive.. The error here was made by
1) The initial police investigation(Which was half assed)
2) Hockey Canada
3) The crown prosecutor that decided to try the case based of a civil settlement that the players didnt even know about.The judge did everything but come out and call her a liar.
These guys had their names dragged through the mud and likely have permanent harm to their reputation when they did nothing wrong but party with the wrong.
The NHL is now saying they are ineligible to play because they has consensual sex with a woman. Guess they will need to shut the league down and suspend 99% of the players. My assumption at this point is consensual sex with a man puts you in a marginalized group and that then makes it ok.
I cannot believe I am on the same side of this argument as UG. I feel dirty.
