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Hold up is bridge vs. Long term. They aren’t close to an agreement yet. But they expect to get something done.
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Why would you let him walk? That makes no sense at all.
I said it’s not going to happen soon but I’d like to see the Flyers build a Cup winning capable defense. York is getting close, experience wise, to being what he is as an NHL player. I hope he surprises me and takes a big step up this year. If he doesn’t, they need to upgrade the slot. That doesn’t necessarily mean letting him walk, that’s why I said hopefully. I don’t see him topping out as a top pairing Dman on a legitimate Cup contender. Sanheim, on the other hand, I do.
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Maybe it’s me though seems you said let him walk.
Not any time soon. He’s a top pairing guy here on a defense that needs an upgrade badly. You’re making it sound like he’s some superstar who is in a position to see how the new coaching staff does and see how management builds the team the next couple or more years. It’s not like he’s another Makar. He’s not a top pairing guy on, I would say, most teams in the league.
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How on earth you draw the conclusion I am making him sound like a superstar is very odd
Because you wrote this:
York would want a bridge. Test the coaching waters out first. See how the team is constructed in the next few years.
I prefer the Flyers sign York to a bridge deal. I don’t necessarily think he’s a guy you can literally build your D around. If he is around for years to come, I would hope somebody comes in and supplants him on the top pair. Again, they have no D prospects that will help this year. Maybe a couple will get a look due to injury.
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How is what I posted propping him up as a superstar?
He is a young vet who may not want a long term deal if he sees no path to contention. In that case he may want a short term deal. Then move on if he doesn’t like what he sees.
They have no one close to supplanting him.
Why would the Flyers want to sign York to a long term deal?
No one close this coming year and likely next. Which is why you sign him . . . to a bridge deal.
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Why would the Flyers want to sign York to a long term deal?
No one close this coming year and likely next. Which is why you sign him . . . to a bridge deal.
Why? Is that a real question?
No one close in the next 5 years. They have one D prospect who projects to be an NHL player. One. Outside of Bonk they have nothing but potential bottom pair guys, if they even pan out.
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No one close in the next 5 years. They have one D prospect who projects to be an NHL player. One. Outside of Bonk they have nothing but potential bottom pair guys, if they even pan out.
You need to take a closer look at how the current top teams were actually constructed, not how Hextall and Fletcher deconstructed the Flyers.
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dont need to look at anything. flyers throughout the orginization are not good in almost every facet. They are poorly run. I have zero faith this group will turn it around.
you can try to be optimistic and spin it anyway. results matter and so far briere has not got any results. he is timid. he overrates his players and prospects. team is in the same spot since he took over. he has no plan who how to build a team.
go flyers
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You need to take a closer look at how the current top teams were actually constructed, not how Hextall and Fletcher deconstructed the Flyers.
Are you seriously implying the current Philadelphia Flyers are in the same position as the Panthers and Oilers?
It’s nice that they made those moves, but they were already contenders. The only thing the Flyers are in contention for is a lottery pick, and I have yet to see anything to convince me that No Plan Dan is the guy to get them where they hope to be.
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Are you seriously implying the current Philadelphia Flyers are in the same position as the Panthers and Oilers?
Edmonton was awful for years and have only been a top team the last four years. Florida has only been a top team the last four years. Edmonton absolutely built more through the draft. EDM has two Dmen they drafted, FLA only one. They drafted Ekblad, traded for Jones and the rest are free agents.
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The moves FLA and EDM made are what made them contenders. — FlyerFrank
It was mostly drafting made them both contenders. Yes, the Tkachuk trade helped put Florida over the top, but outside of said trade, the moves both teams made were complimentary players that added depth needed to contend. The Flyers are nowhere near that point.
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It was mostly drafting made them both contenders. Yes, the Tkachuk trade helped put Florida over the top, but outside of said trade, the moves both teams made were complimentary players that added depth needed to contend. The Flyers are nowhere near that point.
You mean like stealing Bennett and Reinhart as well as Tkachuk? Yes, they made great trades too. The #1 and #2 overall picks still with them, Barkov and Ekblad, have been great. Lundell is a key contributor. Huberdeau has had two great seasons out of 13. The Flyers had two #2 overalls the last several years and got JVR and Patrick out of it. FLA’s drafting, overall, has not been as fantastic as you make it out to be. They were built with shrewd acquisitions.
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Flyers are the next Florida. All the pieces are in place to make it happen. With their excellent management team only a matter of when not if.
The Flyers have two surpluses, draft picks and enough cap space to sign a Top 4 dman and a goalie this off season. They have an upside even if you don’t want to see it.
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Can you explain what 2 surpluses means.
I do not see the upside you see in any way, shape, or form.
They have six picks in the first two rounds. How is that NOT a surplus?
1st (No. 6 overall): Own.
• 1st (No. 22 overall): Acquired from Colorado in 2024 trade of D Sean Walker.
• 1st (No. 31/32 overall): Acquired from Edmonton for 32nd overall pick in 2024 (conditional to 2025 or 2026).
• 2nd: Own.
• 2nd: Conditional pick acquired from Columbus in 2023 trade of Ivan Provorov after they elected to keep their selection in 2024.
• 2nd: Acquired from Anaheim in 2024 trade of F Cutter Gauthier.
• 2nd: Acquired from Calgary in 2025 trade of Fs Morgan Frost and Joel Farabee.They have about $19M in cap space with only York essential to resign. How much would you pay York? I’m admittedly terrible about what these guys can pull, even in arbitration, but they’ll still have $13M+ to sign a solid vet Top 4 Dman and a goalie. Use those picks well, give the kids a chance up front and let them develop. I’m hoping that’s the plan.
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The problem is they need a #1 defenseman. Just getting another top 4 plug-in doesn’t move the needle.
I’m happy with Sanheim as their #1 Dman. He’s likely in the Top 20 for Dmen in the league but they need a helluva lot more around him and behind him. He’d look even better if the Flyers had that. A Top 4 plug-in would move the needle for THIS team. Even FLA went out and traded for Jones at the deadline.
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my dude the flyers are so far off from being able to lick florida’s ass it is sad. that is how far behind they are.
florida will likely be bad again then good before the flyers are competitive. let that sink in.
when you emulate the most recent cup winner you likely fall behind. dont be a follower be a leader. florida has made smart moves. flyers are incapable of making smart moves or being a leader.
when you look at floridas drafts the last 8 years years they have received virtually no help from said drafts. makes their run even more impressive. -
flyers are incapable of making smart moves or being a leader.
when you look at floridas drafts the last 8 years years they have received virtually no help from said drafts. makes their run even more impressive.Then why be a Flyers fan at all? The devil is in the details and they have to score big with #6 and, at the very least, one or two of the other picks they have in the first two rounds. That will be on them. At least you admit I’m right in that FLA’s success has been built on firing on all cylinders in terms of player acquisition but the current team is not loaded with their own high draft picks.
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their core is/was built on their draft picks. that is a 100% fact.
go flyers become the next panthers. you can do it.
why be a fan? I am at the point where I enjoy watching them fail more than win. that is what they have turned me into. all about the entertainment
Ekblad and Barkov are core players. That’s two guys. Lundell is an outstanding depth center who still has some upside. Now he’s a guy who could help the Flyers. They did use draft picks and players they drafted to get other key pieces together. I still wouldn’t come close to saying FLA was built on their draft picks.
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I’m happy with Sanheim as their #1 Dman. He’s likely in the Top 20 for Dmen in the league but they need a helluva lot more around him and behind him. He’d look even better if the Flyers had that. A Top 4 plug-in would move the needle for THIS team. Even FLA went out and traded for Jones at the deadline. — FlyerFrank
If Sanheim is your #1, you are not a playoff team (which is pretty obvious at this point).
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If Sanheim is your #1, you are not a playoff team (which is pretty obvious at this point).
Jones is getting the most ice time in Florida, Bouchard and Nurse are the top pairing in EDM. DAL has a fine overall D but I’m not sure any one of their guys is all that much better than Sanheim, maybe Heiskanen. I like Slavin in CAR. Those are the Final 4 teams. The top teams have solid D corps, not one great guy.
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I know we keep hearing the Flyers really want to extend York, but it sure looks like the “For Sale” is out there. Just have a feeling he could be traded for another RFA- ho ideal who that could be. With a rising cap happening, if the reported York @ 6 million/yr long-term is a pretty good dead for the Flyers. That will be the going rate for 2nd pair Dmen. Sure seems to me they really would like to trade him.
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I know we keep hearing the Flyers really want to extend York, but it sure looks like the “For Sale” is out there. Just have a feeling he could be traded for another RFA- ho ideal who that could be. With a rising cap happening, if the reported York @ 6 million/yr long-term is a pretty good dead for the Flyers. That will be the going rate for 2nd pair Dmen. Sure seems to me they really would like to trade him.
If it’s an RFA trade, I’d take a closer look at Romanov but not sure the Isles would like that with Schaefer soon in the mix and Dobson wanting to get paid. That might be the reason for his rumored availability. If they do trade York, it opens a hole on an inadequate blue line. The Flyers need to add there, not subtract. York does need to step up. He may have an upside but I don’t think he’s proved $6M+ value. He’s a top pair guy here, but that’s a pretty low bar.
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not going to be surprised on bit if he is moved or signed. yes stating the obvious.
if moved and another D brought in is just spinning their wheels.
All this Byram talk, is he really that much better than JD? offensively yes. defensively? another guy with a past injury history who wants a long term deal.
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