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Do you know where that article is? I’d like to read it. Sounds interesting!
Also kind of weird. Most of the time wingers aren’t captains.
Sorry I read stuff on my phone and then can’t find it when I look on my computer.
There was an article by Friedman that the Marner discontent started with the choice to hand Mathews the C.. Marner wants to go somewhere where he is the big dog.
I am tending to think it might be Utah that he signs with
They have the money and the owner wants to make a splash
There is no pressure from fans
He will walk into a younger team and get to be the big dog.Marner and his dad will be happy little pigs in shit
Just read an article that Knies and Leafs far apart… No idea who are reliable sources anymore though
In an ideal world I feel this would happen regarding JT. We aren’t in an ideal world and JT absolutely played as a 2C in the league last year. He’s slowing down but I feel with the cap opening up in the next few years I bet we see some longer contract for him. It also depends on what JT wants.
Ideally, for me, it’s similar to giroux. Something like 3 x 6 – 7. That’s what I think will happen.
Similarly, I wonder if Tree is trying to get Knies on a long term deal. I’d like to see 7 x 8 or even 8 x 8. However, if I were Knies and looking at the cap going up, I’d do like 4years x 6 million.
Would love Tavares to sign the Duchene deal
It’s sad how much a very small minority of people can ruin something for so many isn’t it?
It is much less frustrating if you just scroll past the annoying post when you see certain names. It is like a manual ignore button.
Sabres appear to be ready to move on from Alex Tuch
To Buffalo
Robertson
Kampf/Jarncrok(or both for all I care)
Neimala/Steeves other prospect(Leafs have a number of prospects that they seem to have no use for)
4th round pickTo Toronto
Alex Tuch
2nd round pickAssuming the signings of Knies, Pathces and Tavares go through and Marner is gone
Try to sign Duchene/Bennet(I think Bennet contract is going to make him stupidly overpaid.
Knies Mathews Domi
McMann Duchene/Bennet Nylander
Patches Tavares Tuch
X Laughton XXXXFill the 4th line with big tough guys who can skate.
Patches should be load managed to get him to the playoffs healthy.. Play him every other gameAlternatively
Try to trade for the rights to Marco Rossi/Mason Mctavish
Oilers/Panthers looks like it is mirroring the Leafs series.. Game 4 will be interesting but Florida seems to have gotten under the Oilers skin
Edit : a report post button would be nice. And one that actually works, unlike the HB report post function.
or an ignore button
I didn’t like him in the playoffs on TV and I’m not sure he’s the right guy but I guess we will see. I know he was an Assistant coach in Tampa when they were a powerhouse but I feel like he got a lot of credit for someone else’s (Jon Cooper) work.
He wasn’t good in Detroit IMO.
This is terrible… I echo, Terrible coach, Terrible on TV..I actually got the feeling he hated the Leafs
Here is a question
Lets say the Leafs now with Marner are a 105 point team. pretty much last season, a few lessHow many points do the Leafs have in 2025-26 if..
-they dont re-sign marner and dont replace him
-replace him with Bennett
-replace with player of your choice (name them)Signing Bennet for the money and term he is going to command will be an epic mistake
The entire hockey world says Marner is walking, for free.
Organizational failure of epic proportions. Management disaster.
Tree is part of that. Yes he only had a few weeks to make a tough decision on the core. But he ultimately walked the team to where they are now. No one has ever had the stones to make a tough decision in this era. Now? Best of luck to Tree and the management. They’re going to need it. I’m not super optimistic Tree can make chicken salad out of this. He got completely schooled at the deadline. Look at what Florida did, and what he did. His record does not give me a ton of be-leaf.
Tre gets a pass for me.. Two weeks on the job and likely a mandate from Shanny when he was hired that he could not trade the core.. I think that is part of the reason Dufus was gone.. Dufus finally realized what a colossal mess he made and wanted to fix it by trading Marner.
The only way out is Marner resigned under $13M, Nylander traded. Rielly moved. That way the assets stay in line and the return for Nylander and Rielly are other NHL players and picks. Another top 4 RHD so OEL can play his natural Left side. Tavares to the 3rd line on the cheap and another centre with tenacity on line 2. Toews on PTO?. McMann and Robertson need a new home. Bye to Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves & Holmberg. We have 5 good Defensemen and 2 Good Goaltenders. A very good top line. Work it out and remake this roster with grit and hustle.~ PrinceHL
Marner is gone
Nylander has a NMC and is not going anywhere
Rielly is going nowhere(according to Lebrun I think)
McMann – If you get rid of him you will be looking for more goals from teh bottom 6.. He is fine on the 3rd line netting 20-25 goal
Robertson – Good luck on your travels
Jarncock – Don’t let the door hit you
Kampf- Don’t let the door hit you
Reaves- Don’t let the door hit you
Holmberg- I would let him stick around.. If can be a 4th line center/winger.. Cheap replacement for Kampf
Lorentz – I am good to have him back on a cheap contractLeafs need to assess the farm and figure out which guys are not in the long term plans and use the assets before they lose value..Niemela, Kokeonen, Kressler, Tverberg come to mind, they are not grade A prospects but they are on the smaller size and don’t fit the Leafs direction. I would also entertain a trade of Cowan if the package coming back is exceptional.
Package them with some of the under contract veterans to bring in pieces
I think the Leafs D will look exactly the same as last year with Myers as the 7th guy.
If Marner helps them out and demands a sign and trade from the team he signs with we can maybe hope for a good forward prospect..
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ParticipantI’m not convinced JT will stay. Like Stamkos, I think he wants to stay and is saying all of the right things, but ultimately it’s up to Leafs management to make a fair offer. If that fair offer feels insultingly low, then he tests the market. Despite his age and warts, somebody will throw $4-5m at him easily, and maybe as high as $7.5m like Stamkos.
I used to work in management at a big box retailer and I was recruited by a rival big box. They offered better pay and better benefits, so I jumped ship. Well, I found out pretty quick that the other place was a clusterfuck. The managers were all either incompetent, dicks, or both. Most of my coworkers were joyless and hated their jobs and it showed in their performance. I hated it. I regretted my decision because the pay bump was too small to compensate for the additional suck the job required. I left a year later.
If JT really loves Toronto, he’ll stay. We’ll see. I think it’s a coin flip.
I think he stays.. My guess based on his end of year statements they already have a framework in place.. Question is will greedy Mitch demand a sign and trade from the new team for the 8th year.
