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Back in 2008 top players were making decent cash $7 -$9m (for that time)….no one was flocking to florida to play
In 2001 – 2003 top players were making $9 to $11.5m…..no one was flocking to florida to play.
Winning…changes everything.
Of course there are loop holes and tax breaks or lower taxes that players can take advantage of now to save money…of course that helps (along with weather)…not disputing that. But winning is the honey that attracts the bears and ants. If florida, tampa and dallas were garbage losing teams you think players would sign for less to play there?
Nope.
They take less, because they win….and they’ve built winning cultures…or even cultures that may be a “team first” culture. Which seems to be the exact opposite of what was built in Toronto.
Toronto got cocky and lazy….they thought everyone would want to play here cause its the “mecca of hockey”….so they seem to stop building a winning brand…they missed the boat and even homegrown talent got greedy or simply didnt want to stay and play.
But winning…can change that.
This notion that its all about taxes is BS…it helps….but so does winning and having a team first winning culture.And of course the league will never do anything help northern teams (except pittsburgh), for sure its all about the southern teams…need new fans.
Do you actually believe Marner would have stayed here for $12 million? He’d be $14.5-$15.
$7-$9 is nothing more than upper average now.
2001-03 was a different era without a cap.
It’s a pretty basic thing to factor. Star players essentially want $7+ million take home post taxation. Yes, other factors matter, but that one is huge.
in the new CBA the signing bonus is now capped at 60% – Signing bonuses will be capped at 60 percent of the full player’s salary
so a little advantage the Leafs had they are looking at as a problem…naturallyalso Jays giving 2015 vibes, but also how is that 10 years ago
Is that only for contracts moving forward? Matthews’ bonuses after the new cap kicks in are at 77% and 70% for the last two years of his contract.
The culture starts with winning, its simply not all about taxes….sure it may help but if you have a winning culture with a good locker room, players will go there.
Tampa, dallas and florida all had low tax rates for decades, its only until they started winning constantly that they began attracting so many players.
Nothing will change here in toronto until they begin to win in the playoffs.
No Fake it’s becoming $ now. We never saw it before because the players didn’t make enough. Most of them still don’t. It’s the $10 mill plus players that it’s truly effecting.
Matthews makes league minimum for a reason and gets everything as a bonus while in Arizona. He saves 14.03% taxation that way. This year he literally saves a little more than $2 million.
You’ll see this more and more for a bit, and that’s because the league is literally trying to build up the popularity of the sport in the southern US so why stop it?
What’s sickening is the NHL under Bettman doesn’t address this issue. They want a salary cap, but still give teams in the south an advantage. Knowing how much that the Leafs contribute in revenue sharing, it’s a slap in the face to the fanbase who gives money to franchises that continues to have an advantage, thanks to the tax issues. Bettman is a clown and needs to go!
Truth is this is a business and where it needs to be sold is the south not in Canada.
Stop thinking the sport comes first, money does.
And yes the money is still coming from Canada and northern US, but that’s not the targeted goal.
I’m sure he’ll find another topic to bitch about.
Oh I doubt he needs to find it. My guess is he already has an organized list of topics. My question is his timing of change.
I was enjoying the cry fest a few days ago but UG is fucking relentless. He needs to STFU about it already. It’s done. Marner is gone.
I’m so hoping that when the leafs face the knights this year that Knies just levels Marner lol
I’m gonna need some cheese and crackers with all the whining going on.
Everytime line 1 is on the ice and doesn’t score by the time they go back to the bench this upcoming season UG is going to say “see?! The leafs would have scored if Marner was still here!”
Yes, whoever has the most average / below average players wins the Cup.
You’re not a leafs fan, you’re a Canadian players fan.
Even as a Londoner I was happy to see him leave the Knights, Altho I found it a bit unfortunate it was to the leafs, I just hoped he’d grow up, he didn’t. Just stayed the wimpy defensively decent passer.
You’re on fentanyl if you think Knies can replace Marner. I’ll be happy to remind you of that when Knies doesn’t come anywhere close to 100 points and 75 assists.
That pussy assed Marner doesn’t need to be around.
Matthews without Marner since 2020-21
25GP, 20G, 18A, 1.58PPG, +7
It was Matthews who was the star buddy, it’s Marner whose points will dive down, not the other way around. He still got 100P this year because he had Knies on his line and JT and Nylander to feed on the PP. fuck sakes you’re dense.
I like Roslovic fine – but I have to admit that I liked him better in 2021-22 with Columbus – but the opportunity he had there (playing with Laine/Nyquist/Voracek) while Jenner was injured seemed to inspire him. Last year in Carolina he was given a shot with Jarvis and Aho but while his stats were okay, his actual play wasn’t very good – at least not defensively. I’m also not a huge fan of the fact that he’s not a PK option. I’d like to get more guys in that bottom-6 who are defensively sound, battle hard and are effective penalty killers.
The leafs already have those two named Kampf and Jarnkrok, problem is they don’t score.
The leafs need 40P guys for the bottom end and 4-5 PK forwards, not 6-7.
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Friedman: “One other guy that I think the Leafs are in on is Jack Roslovic”This guy really flew under the radar, but he has a history with AM34, fits the age group, probably due for a raise but not too much from his 2.8M. Right shot, can play center and wing. I like it.
I won’t lie I’m liking Treliving’s focus atm. Seems a bit more on lines 3 and 4 and not at finding some top six guy to replace Marner which was the point all along.
They got their $7+ million dollar guy to replace Marner already, his name is Knies. The rest will be some nice intelligent moves around forward depth leading up til October is my guess unless there is some sort of no brainer move that comes along.
Imagine a 3rd line with Roslovic, Roy, and Robertson. I wouldn’t mind that line at all.
I just read a blurb on him and he’s projected to get 1.38M cap hit for 2 years.
Not the end of the world I guess. Still easily tradeable if Treliving wants to I suppose.
Arbitration hearings will be held July 20-Aug. 4 and though the judge can award a one- or two-year contract, the parties can negotiate any deal right up to the hearing date to avoid the process.
If the award exceeds $4.85 million a year, the team can walk away and the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.Considering he got offered $919K I wonder how much more he wants? Sure he got 15 goals but only 22 points and it’s not like he’s physically notable.
