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NHL teams are putting player(s) names out there for trade. I think things will get interesting for Flyers, and I could see a trade or RFA bid. I’ve mentioned Miller (D) at NYR or Byrum (D) at Buf; these are just a couple of possibilities. You think about the rights to Howard from TB, to STL goalie on possible RFA. I think if the Flyers get there pick at 6 right, depending upon teams before them (Frondell, Hagens, Martone, Desnoyers and McQueen in that order), there are so many things that could materialize after that. You couple that with D men in LHV (Grans, McDonald, and Sother), and possibly trading York, Andre and Risto, and we have a new team that will be capable of fighting for the playoffs next year. As a flyer fan of over 58 years, this is the most i’ve been excite about the future for the last 10 years. Go Flyers, and Danny and team please get it right!
Concur with MBFlyerfan1 as to taking a swing for the fences with McQueen if Hagens/Frondell are gone. Health reports currently seem on the upswing, and of course, we won’t hear the Staff MD results until after the draft. If I take McQueen at 6, I follow it up with another C at 22nd (hopefully Nesbitt at 6’4″). If I take Frondell/Hagens, I try for defense with Fiddler at 6’4 or Boumedienne at 6’2″. That leaves the 3rd 1st pick and all 2nd rd picks open to best available or a trade.
Good deal for both parties. 3rd/4th line center for us. Good all around player who makes the rest of the line better.
Bill,
If you’re the Flyers, would you trade a late 1st round pick in this year’s draft for StL goalie Hofer? I think if we can find a good partner with Ersson, that would be a wise 1st move toward setting the team moving forward next year. Thoughts?I thought Barkley looked great the last 2 games of the Memorial Cup. Bonk was ok, but there were several other London players who were noticeable, such as Dickerson and Cowen. There was a report Bonk was injured, but I never saw it or heard it on the telecast. Hopefully Barkley can make the pro level within two years. I think Bonk will make the big team within two years, even with the reported injury.
Concur with the Board, good deal for both the player and team! If Foerster improves, yes it will cost more but it will be worth it. Looking for another increase in goal scoring to 30 this year.
I think Grans could be a LT fix for the Flyers. He’s shown improvement and he is Big (6’3″). Like Russ states, the Flyers D is small, and I concur. I’d look to trade Andre and York, but we’ll see what the Flyers Brass does. We have some larger bodies coming into play, such as Hunter, McDonald, Samson, Bonk and Gill. All of them are 6’2″ or larger.
For me, I like GMs that have a plan and execute it. That’s not to say that other opportunities, or flexibility for improvement shouldn’t come into play. What we’ve seen in the past from the Flyers is either not deviating when called for (Hextall) or trading for older players (Fletcher) without supplementing youth into the mix so we had a good mix year to year. I have no opinion yet on Bierre, as he started with a big trade 2 yrs ago, only to go slowly from there on. I think this year will be the start of what Bierre and company are made of.
Also, I don’t know why GMs are so fixated on trading their #1’s year after year, like they have no place in the NHL on their team is just wrong. I mean, how many number 1s have been traded for a player who is so, so thereafter. I love the Flyers getting number 1s for Walker and Laughton, but really, were they worth that. Yeah, they may hit the right player for one year, and get the Stanley Cup, but after that the cupboards are bare and the rebuild begins UGHHHHH. Look at Sakic at Colorado, he’s like Zito, but has probably a 60 / 40 success rate in the trades. For Zito, he’s probably hit at an 80 to 90% success record and has hit the casino on his trades in the last four years, so kudos to him for that vision and luck that has played out for them (e.g. no real injuries in playoffs). Bottom line, you have to have a vision for the team and have the courage to make the trades you believe will make the team better; there is never a 100% track record in making trades, and anything above 60 % would be considered good.
You know, we can all look back and think of how we would have done things differently, but we didn’t so hopefully we learned from our mistakes. Agree with Flyers4Ever that this is a big draft for the organization, and I’d add summer for RFAs and trades.
I would not add Rossi if he’s asking $7M for 7Yrs. Sporting New sites note that this is the rumor that has “supposedly” stop discussions with the Flyers. Additionally, as Bill has noted, he is small and although there is a fit for certain players with skill, the team overall cannot be smallish in nature in today’s NHL. So, concur that it’s a NO for me on both of these players with the current information out there.
Flyers have a lot of opportunities to improve the roster, and it will take the combination of the draft, free agents (restricted) offers, and trades. I mentioned in an earlier post that center positions with the 6th pick should be targeted, and I had Fondell and McQueen as the targets. Yes, I’d like to have Hagens, but if he’s not available then hopefully one of the two I named with be. If neither of them is available, then go with Martone if available. I’m not sold on Desnoyers. As to RFA that could be available, look at the teams who don’t have too much cap space available, such as Dallas, NYR, TB, STL. I mentioned earlier that TB has a draft player (Howard) who hasn’t signed at the Center position. Player has some capabilities, and someone mentioned if I would trade Brink for him. I think I would, given where the construction of the team mix needs to go. Don’t get me wrong, I like Brink; but he is small in stature, and we have a lot of RW’s on the roster. There are others out there (e.g. Quinn with Buffalo), Bierre and company just need to get creative as it fits their plans. As to trades, I’d look at Buffalo, STL, NYR for a defensemen or goalie. If we give up York or Tippett to get a #2 D or a good goalie, I’m in. Although we have not seen a lot of positive trades, sometimes the best trade is no trade. So, I’m letting the Flyers Brass do their thing and hope if plays out. Note, it takes a while to build a team, and I think we’re just turning the corner. I’m excited for the next couple of years.
I believe Deboer was incorrect in how he handled the Ottinger issue. As of today, he still has not talked to the goalie, per sporting news sites. I’ve always like Deboer as a coach, but I’m not sure why this has happened like it has. Perhaps he’d like to see this goalie get traded, even with the lengthy contract just being signed. Trade Ottinger to Philly for either of the Russian goalies (Fedotov or Kosolov); I’m sure Flyers fans would be ecstatic.
Yep, I get it. Two different D men in my opinion. At this point it’s a moot point, but it does show the thinking of the current management team.
Here’s the link for Howard/Flyers
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/philadelphia-flyers/latest-news/why-a-flyers-trade-for-isaac-howard-makes-perfect-senseI believe Grans and Bonk could fight for a position next year for the Flyers, and I definitely would like to see Risto traded so one or both could more up. I am not sold on Andre being a fixture for the Flyers at D. Was reading an article where Risto could have been traded to Toronto, but Danny’s asking price was too high. Like Trox88 said, timeline for Risto is not there with the current plan. We’ll have to see how Risto looks in Nov/Dec before any trade could be made now.
Another stay home D is Genning (LHD). I thought he did an alright job, considering the player’s strength. Could be a big, nasty D for our future, and if not then trade him before he goes back to Europe.
Haven’t heard much on Berglund (C) or Ruohonen (C). I saw the Ruohonen was mentioned above, but what do others think of either of these two (e.g. a year or two away)?
