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Mr Ricochet
ParticipantNo good, Artie. 1-nuttin Blues……..Nice backcheck by Spellacy. May have thwarted a Grade A.
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ParticipantNo good, Artie. 1-nuttin Blues.
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ParticipantDamn that seems like a team friendly deal. Not a bad move by Knight gets stability knows he’s going to be here for the next 4 years.
The extension is 3 yrs, Dots. ..
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ParticipantKnight signs a bridge deal!!! 3 yrs at 5.8 per……….I think this is what I was hoping for. Hawks don’t rope themselves to a 5-8 yr deal for an uber talented kid that hasn’t played more than 40ish games in a yr. And for Knight he fills his pockets with cash in the near term and if he hits anywhere near his ceiling he’s gonna get a big fat long term deal.. Risk either way for both sides but the 3 yr deal is the most risk averse option.
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ParticipantMostly agree with you Ricochet. Buium reminds me of Dougie Hamilton. Lots or PP points, but really a #5 defenseman. Demidov will be flashy and put up points. Unfortunately, I don’t see any resemblance to Datsyuk other than he’s Russian. Will be a defensive liability as he’s already shown. Lev will end up a #1 RHD against the strongest opponents within the next 2 years, and putting up points. Kind of a Seabrook+. 3 years away from a top 3 for the Norris.
Hey Wiz, really glad to see you made it over. Always enjoyed your hockey thoughts…… IMO Buium and Hamilton are night5 and day. In fact, I thought Rinzel’s ceiling profiled Hamilton (until this last yr when he showed excellent poise, awareness and has become pretty good in his own zone with room to grow still) since they drafted him. Buium’s IQ means he makes plays all over the ice with and without the puck. Dougie at best is a top points producer, valuable, but a bit too one D dimensional whereas Buium impacts the game on every inch of ice.
Simply said Demidov has the most insane puck possession hands/skill along with insane IQ since Datsyuk. Not good, not great, not elite but insane. I haven’t seen those traits in one player until Demidov. ,,,,, Taking Arty over Demidov is like stopping at the hardware store before you go to the candy store. That’s the way to build even though IMO Demidov has rare skill/IQ….. I’ll tell you what, in 5 yrs in a game 7 I’m petrified if Demidov is on the ice. .. He takes being dangerous to another level.
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ParticipantThey say it’s between Buium and Parekh, as I’ve said before whatever points a defenseman can provide is a bonus in my eyes. When all said and done i think Arty will be the best two way defenseman of all of them in this draft calls you can’t teach size and explosive first steps in every direction.
where that IQ
Like Rinzel he may be the best defenseman from that draft calls, another big dman with great skating ability.The IQ Buium showed as a true freshman at U of Denver (think they won it all) was near off the charts and it looked like he matured physically to where his IQ was put into action. IMO no higher IQ Dman in that draft than Buium. Good chance to be a real difference maker in the Bigs. …. But, IMO drafting Lev was the right thing to do.
Watched a lotta Parekh for 2 yrs in Major Junior. This kid has enormous offensive upside and profiles just like Karlsson. A Dman who can pop 80 pts in the Bigs but man, like Karlsson, is defense is terrible and he has a slight frame. I take Buium, Dickinson, Artie ahead of Parekh probably even Yaremchuk too…… Never know, kids grow into things that are hard to predict but I can’t see him as being anything but a soft borderline pts machine.
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantIt worked out great. Savard won a Stanley Cup and retired a Blackhawk!
Hey Lou, great to see you made it over…
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantDots, something wrong with my cursor, it won’t let me quote you but let me reply. Yikes. We’ve been thru this at HB, and as Frenchy correctly pointed out, Arty and Demidov will be compared forever.
IIRC you were in the same camp as me that yr that the two hardest pieces to add is a #1 Dman, especially a RHD, and a 1 or 2C and if they have size you’re holding aces. Both Artie and Frondell fit that mold although, as you know, I think they went with Frondell cuz he has a super high floor and checks loads of boxes. Generally speaking when you are drafting top 5 and something like that presents you have to grab that rare and coveted commodity. You must, it’s the right thing to do. In fact I posted a month out from that draft KD would take Arty cuz it’s the right thing to do. How often does a projected 220lb RHD who can skate? .. I doubt there was a hole lotta debate within the organIzation between Artie and Demidov and I’d say 90% of the league would have done the same thing.
Even though, as you know, I’d bet Buium ends up the best Dman outa the draft but that’s not to say Artie wouldn’t be a core piece on a cup winning team that challenges every yr. And as you know with Demidov, I’m the guy who said the kid looks more like Datsyuk than any player I’d seen since him.. No surprise if he hits 80-90-100 pts a few times. But he’s a winger that is a tad smallish. A great commodity but easier to obtain than a #1 Damn or 1 or 2 C…. You take the rarer commodity especially if loads of boxes are checked.
One more thing, again. 4 yrs ogo Artie was playing in weakish Belurus jrs. Next yr a different continet and USHL. Next yr Michigan St where he’s drafted. Next yr, last yr, 18 NHL games and 52 AHL games. And the kid cleared every hurdle without the benefit of being in the same yr twice……. Simply said IMO Artie has the highest ceiling of anyone in the organIzation not named Bedard ……….
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ParticipantWe pretty much know his floor. The defense is going to take a couple years as you say. Locking Knight up early is to our advantage and also sends a message we’re all in keeping young core guys. As I said, I think he’s in a unique situation where shorter term makes more sense to him. Something like 4x$6.75.
rpete, do you have any concerns about Knight’s mental issues that took him out of the game for a bit? Do you think that factors in the Hawks’ thinking as far as a contract?
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ParticipantThis site still has some cracks in it, posted a reply and it disappeared
Did you look behind the dryer? I find everything there.
You’re hitting on all cylinders, rpete.
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantFrenchy, The Real Wiz has compiled a 7 rd mock draft the last 20-25 yrs at lines.com and had Hawk’s season tickets in the 60’s!! And he has thoughts…….. Glad to see you stumble in, Wiz.
Damn fine work, Frenchy. .. Frenchy, followed the USHL Steel from 2005 all the way to Covid. Season tix for 10-12 of them which means I’ve seen the U-17 and U-18 NTDP every single yr live during that span. As you know it’s a flat out goalie factory and for my money Knight is the best I’ve seen out of The Program, or from the USHL, until Hrabal 3-4 yrs ago (Hrabal went 3 picks after Gajun to AZ, Augustine after that).
IMO Knight is the most technical goalie I’ve seen since Price and as his HD SPG will attest the kid is an elite athlete. This dude is eye candy, he moves and skates so so beautifully and understands being square and in balance is priority 1. I think it’ll take seeing him start 50 games for the Hawks until I believe he is a Hawk. … This trade might impact the organIzation more than any other the next 10 yrs.
I’m all in one this guy and Wiz is right, let’s sit back and watch this kid over a full season. The position is volitile but you gotta bet on someone and this kid is a bona fide blue chipper.
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantThe article is up. I watched Kantserov in his first game — he logged 19 minutes, finished with no points and a minus-1, but overall played a solid game. He completed 76.19% of his passes and, despite his smaller size, he’s really fun to watch.
Kantserov, a 2nd rd pick in 2023, turns 21 at the end of September is beginning his 3rd season in the KHL. Last I knew the KHL was the 2nd best league on earth followed by the AHL and SHL …. What I wanted to most was how many minutes he played and you gave us that, Frenchy. That tells me more about a prospect playing pro than anything else. His coach knows him best and TOI says much…… Did you notice if he played on PP1 or 2 or on the PK?
Samething with Frondell this yr. I’ll watch for his TOI, line and special teams placement…. Yea, we wanna see pts but this is the developmental process where a foundation is being built. At this stage that’s more important than pts for me.
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ParticipantBM, you are so helpful in many ways. …… Thanks.
I’d add sometimes it logs me out. You can log back in as usual or go to any thread and at the bottom of the page thread it says “you need to log in to reply” and it has your name and password already prepared there with a log in button. Just click on it and you’re logged in..
Yesterday the software’s spellcheck didn’t work and sometimes a post doesn’t take. I think the webmaster is still working out software kinks. .. If I post anything more than a few sentences I copy it in case it doesn’t take.
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantTomorrow I’ll have a full piece on Rookie Camp — everything you need to know in one place. Thanks as always for your support! Which prospect are you most excited to watch? Let me know, and I’ll do my best to cover it.
Looking forward to your post on rookie camp, Frenchy…….. If I’m limited to one guy to watch and or preview it would be Spellacy. It’s just so so hard to find a power player that kinda speed. They’re rare and this kid has a chance. His EP page is nuts as he played low level hockey in the Cleveland area which I’ve seen live. Maybe 10 HS games and saw the Barons play the NTDP way back when and although it ain’t too too bad it ain’t now hockey hotbed. Don’t think he had 50 games of hockey at his EP page and straight outa there he made a Major Junior team!! That’s nuts and something that catches your attention.
He’s still raw but the eye test says he’s made solid improvement and IMO kid started looking the part. Kid is big, really fast, lik3es to play the body and maybe best of all his loves Tom Wilson and tries to pattern his game after him.. Curious what you’d guess his ceiling is, Frenchy? If I had to guess today he has a middle 6 ceiling.
And you gotta look at Lardis too. I watched a good bit of Brantford the last 2 yrs and, wow. Like Spellacy, who brings something coveted and scarce,, this guy has a super high goal scoring IQ with a fantastic shot that gets off his stick in a blink. Game slows down for this kid. .. Kid has real speed he knows how to use. He’s general dangerous and unlike our NHL generational phenom this kid gets wood on his one timers, it’s off in a blink and is very accurate. ……… 70 goals man, in the OHL!! Drafted in rd 3. You get these kinds drafted outa rd 1to produce in the NHL and your gonna make some noise.
Wish Kancerov was here.
Mr Ricochet
ParticipantIt’s not letting me quote you, Dots…. Oh for sure, a place with proper software and format is really appreciated but you add a blogger with a multi layered background with a good hockey mind and can write you’ve found the penthouse.
Where’s Chunk, Dots?
Don’t know maybe him and Paul are stuck in the interweb.
Chunk is a good poster as is Paul but the back and forth between you and Chunk keeps a place on its toes… Hopefully both guys find their way over.
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