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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantApparently the leafs have traded away 40 draft picks including 7 first rounders since Matthews got here.
Not a way to build a team.
So much for using marners money to build depth.
Trade away players, get picks and finish in the bottom 5 this year. This team has needed a step back season for years.
Trade Laughton for what he should have been acquired for. A 3rdThe silver lining for tanking this season is there are some solid options at 3rd-5th overall, some big body players, solid RHD etc. I’m actually not too keen on McKenna. He’s a winger, he’s small and he seems like another Taylor Hall. Still probably a dangerous offensive player but obviously not what the Leafs need more of.
That being said, when Matthews returns, Tanev returns, Stolarz returns and so on, it’s going to be really hard for the Leafs to actually be THAT bad unless they trade everybody, which they won’t do this year. Which means the dreaded “6th overall” scenario where the Leafs miss the playoffs but still surrender a high, top 10-15 pick to Boston.
The Leafs will have to first, fire Treliving, second, trade all expiring contracts in 2026 and again in 2027. You trade Matthews, Nylander and everybody else over 25 at the 2027 draft. You tank in 2028. Tank again in 2029. Hope you can sign McDavid to a max contract (Leafs will have unlimited cap space by now) and then compete again in 2030 with a new crop of 1st round picks, top prospects, lotter players and maybe a slim chance at adding McDavid as the leader of the new group of young players on ELC. Keep Knies, Cowan and Danford and keep adding through the draft with what few picks we still have until 2028.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI will respond to stupid
Then you’d be talking to yourself a lot, which actually tracks.
Your crusade to go against Hall of Famers continues with Shanny eh?!
Shanahan was a fantastic player. Terrible executive. Just like Tavares is a fantastic one-way, offense only, regular season player but terrible playoff performer who has never won anything in his NHL career. Really great guy though. But not a winner.
You type better – I hockey better.
You hockey better? Must be why all your hockey opinions are as retarded as your ability to type them up.
Never played a game of Jr. C in my life.
Oh right, you were busy in the timers box during the games and jock sniffing with the puck bunnies after the games.
But I’m sure some guys in here did and there’s nothing wrong with that. At least they accomplished you never could – share and leave your parents basement.
You know a lot about basements, maybe that’s because you spent so much time living in them recovering from your CTE that’s left you retarded.
Enough of you today, Mr. Mercedes.
Enough of your retardation, come back when you’ve found a clue and learned how to click a big red button to quote.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWrong!
Dubas destroyed this team with his NMC giveaways like Oprah.
If it wasn’t for that – little bitchy mitchy his muffins and playoff failure/fear would’ve been outta Toronto and a FAR superior Rantanen would’ve been a Leaf and dominated as he usually does playoff time.
That never happened cause Tre could only ask the little greedy shit to waive and bitch said no. Made up fake claims that cops refuted and other teammates said they didn’t hear about.
Enter dumb dumb tre – trading 1st rd picks for Carlo/Laughton.
Dubas destroyed this team and Tre did terrible with what was left.
Who knows about Shanny. Nobody here can ever say factually his level of involvement in the contract deals etc.
But blame past present future is spread to 2 people.
You gotta either be deaf or an incel to not understand that.
Still don’t know how to hit that “quote” button there 23BigIQ? Fucking pure retard level of analysis here, surely from that Junior C CTE that left you drooling at your keyboard.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantRemember when it was all shanahans fault?
Hes laughing now
He’s not laughing, he’s working for the NHL because no good team will hire him. He’ll end up in some dump like Buffalo and continue to be a failed executive. Treliving is also a failure. This mess isn’t on one or the other of them. They’re both failures.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantHardly. He’s been gone for a matter of months, and there isn’t a person alive that thought the Leafs were going to breeze through this year. I’ve been saying for literally over a year that Marner had to be booted into the sun, 2025-2026 was going to be a down year or a complete write off, then the Leafs would have cap space and flexibility to improve. Now, I did NOT predict that next year’s UFA class was going to be coming straight off the short bus, but what can ya do?
Knies is still improving, Cowan is playing much better than I expected, JT is a stud, Willy is doing his usual thing and improving a bit defensively, (yes, I understand that bar is exceptionally low). Matthews will get going playing with Knies and Cowan, book it.
There is nothing this team can do to fix the mess it created. Shanahan was a retard who had his puppet Dubas. Treliving was another puppet who has never proven he can build anything other than the garbage he left behind in Calgary after he lost their stars for next to nothing but problems. They have no elite prospects, they have no 1st round pick until 2028 and the current collection of players is bad enough to almost be a lottery team. Every dinosaur on D will get older and they have little to no hope of any UFAs solving their problems.
This team fucked itself and this year is a preview of what is to come as they are circling the drain and will be rebuilding sooner rather than later.
Their only hope is to fire Treliving now to guarantee they can trade all their assets over 25 years old for maximum value and start the rebuild correctly this time.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIf Matthews and Nylander had the character of the guys in your avatar we would have won a couple Cups. Those two greats (Gilmore and Clarke) would gladly trade a bloody nose for a team win. Matthews and Nylander would never make a sacrifice that could give them a scare. Trade those two selfish players
And as much as I loved Clark and Gilmour, they didn’t win a Cup in Toronto either. Gilmour won when the team was build completely solid. Clark never won anything despite his heart. Blah blah Kerry Fraser, they still lost Game 7 vs LA. And never got it together again after that either. Why? Because the Leafs don’t build good teams. They occasionally have some talented players but not enough of a good mixture to make it all work as one complete team. The problem is that to win a Cup you need a TEAM. You need the correct ingredients and the correct amount of those ingredients or it doesn’t work.
Matthews, Marner and Nylander were capable of winning a Cup if the Leafs had surrounded them with the correct players at the correct positions. They traded heart filled, grit players like Kadri. Let Hyman walk as a UFA. Made Rielly their anchor on D. These were massive managerial mistakes. They decided to bring in Tavares and it ruined the balance of the team. They had no D. They had no supporting cast. They had no success.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAll you Marner knob polishers, whatever you do, do NOT watch how the Vegas game ended, LMFAO.
Is Vegas in 2nd last place in the West now? 6th worst in the league?
Pretty sure Nylander and Tavares got absolutely bitch slapped on Hockey Night in Canada by the Montreal Canadiens but it’s all good because they scored some points in the losing effort and have fantastic hair.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWhat successful nhl team has a captain who arrives to games in his fanciest clothes and carrying a purse? NHL players, the tough ones that clubs win championships with, don’t carry purses. They don’t have a purse collection. Imo there’s something strange with how Matthews dressed up for the cameras. He’s just not a guy other players will follow into battle. We should have kept JT as captain.
Having a C stitched to his jersey wouldn’t have made Tavares any less of a useless pile of shit vs. Florida last year. Tavares is currently the de facto captain and the Leafs are absolutely horrible. It makes no difference.
If Matthews isn’t capable of being the captain, the team needs to be rebuilt regardless.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantlol no, it’s the definition of not caring
It’s just like I won’t hang out with losers who are willing to buy dinner/drinks/etc.
Tbh, it’s primarily how pouty he is, he doesn’t have to be physical, look at Willie ffs, he isn’t. But Mitch, he cries about shit or looks like he’s about to and I can’t stand guys like that. I’ve had part of my brain removed and just had titanium put into me in September and do I cry/whine/pout about it? No. I just keep going. And Mitch just isn’t that type, he’s a crybaby, and that’s why I don’t like him.
No, it’s the definition of being a whiner.
You keep saying Marner is a crybaby, keep saying he pouts, keep saying he whines and yet have zero evidence to prove it. It’s a figment of your imagination. Maybe there’s some radio wave frequency interference with the titanium giving you false memories or creating scenarios that don’t exist or are greatly exaggerated. But it’s not reality.
Furthermore, the biggest whiner in the NHL for a very long time, was Sidney Crosby. He was a crying bitch for years, especially towards referees. Guess what? Didn’t matter. Still won multiple times. Why? Because he was a dedicated two-way player with drive and determination. You have no idea how much or how little any amount of “whining” actually made the team worse. Looks to be a lot of whining coming from Matthews that he doesn’t have his #1 playmaker anymore. Looks to be a lot of whining that the Leafs are the 6th worst team in the NHL and 2nd worst in the East. Looks to be a lot of whining that the Leafs PP, PP and 5v5 play all absolutely suck. Why? Because the Leafs allowed an elite player to walk away, replaced him with a pile of dog shit and are now surprised it’s not working.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantLeafs currently in the worst case scenario of giving the Bruins 6th overall for Carlo.
Nylander thinks this is “good for our group” though. As if this sad sack of shit team ever learned from their horrible style of play in the past.
Project Rebuild 2028.
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