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Too old and grossly overpaid for too long. Leafs just keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again. This is Rielly 2.0 but at least Rielly had more than one big year.
Even if you look at his AHL stats, last year was an outlier. The Leafs absolutely paid through the nose for a career year and it will blow up in their face when he doesn’t score like he did and the defense is allowing more goals than it creates.
Huge mistake. Same shit, different pile.
Making it “fun to play” means giving them the freedom to do as they wish so long as they play hard under the coach’s system. People who read “irresponsible free-for-all” in “fun to play” are doomsday idiots.
Sure, sure. Good luck with that blue and white pipe dream.
Hiller bringing in Dj and who else?
DJ seems like a good assistant coach, not really effective as a head coach in Ottawa although his teams always played with the grit and determination that the Leafs have lacked for years.
Hiller said he intends on making the Leafs “fun to play” which means the players will do whatever the fuck they want, as usual.
And yet, when the moment got too large he shriveled up like your dick the last time you were around a woman, (probably 30 years ago and likely someone related to you).
Also, dunking on two shit teams the first two rounds is not the flex you think it is.
Swept Colorado, kept MacKinnon to 0 goals. Went to the Cup Final. Led the NHL in playoff scoring. All things the Leafs haven’t done since 1967.
But I guess McDavid must suck too for leading the playoffs in scoring and doing nothing in Game 6 or Game 7 vs Florida. It’s also McDavid and Marner’s fault that their goalies couldn’t make a save in the Final. They should both be elite goalies too.
The Leafs going from 1st to last in the division because they lost Marner isn’t the flex you think it is.
talking about a power play, a skilled playmaker can move the needle a lot on a PP. what the F are we even talking about here
Talking about an 18 year old rookie.
The Leafs PP has no point shot and a tendency to always just feed the puck to Matthews, no matter what, no matter how. Will that change? I doubt it. It also depends on how much PP time per game he actually gets. Leafs already give Tavares, Nylander, Matthews and Knies well over 2:40+ min per game. After that, the next highest last year was Maccelli (8 PPP) at 1:44 per game, Cowan (6 PPP) at 1:33 per game and Domi (8 PPP) at 1:22 per game. Maccelli and Domi can be pushed aside but is Cowan going to get benched from the PP? Are they going to run 5 forwards to give whomever they draft maximum PP minutes? I doubt it.
Marner averaged 7+ points per 60 PP minutes at 2:54 PP minutes per game over his entire Toronto career. #1 among all Leafs, higher than Nylander, Matthews and Tavares. Replacing that with an 18 year old rookie is a tall order. Again, non-generational player coming in as an 18 year old rookie. In the last 5 years, only two 18 year old rookie forwards have scored 20+ PP points in a season, Celebrini and Bedard. And both were averaging OVER 3 minutes per game on the PP. Nobody in this draft is likely to be that good or given that much ice time.
Matthews (18) 1st season had 21 PP points and Marner (19) also had 21 PP points. If you’re thinking McKenna walks into the NHL and scores 27-30+ PP points like Marner was scoring at his peak in Toronto, you’re huffing blue and white paint. Odds are much stronger he scores 14-18 PP points and the Leafs still struggle to replace Marner’s offensive production both overall and on the PP which was 24 PP points last year and 33 PP points the year prior with the Leafs.
Leafs might be able to get a very skilled playmaking winger somewhere. one might drop into their lap even next Friday
Non-generational rookies don’t move the needle that far.
Oh, right, because Vegas’ PP was so fucking hot in the Finals. GTFOH with that bullshit.
Oh, right, because he would have been #1 in PP points on the Leafs and was tied for 2nd in the entire playoffs for PP points.
Your brain and reality don’t mix very well.
to be clear, the only way I would be interested in any of the Canucks players is if Rielly is going the other way.
but if they are doing scorched earth, they dont want RiellyAnd Rielly doesn’t want them. He’d prefer a playoff team and if he felt like being closer to home, he’d push for Seattle long before going to Vancouver.
I would happily take Vince Dunn or Adam Larsson from Seattle before trying to take Pettersson for Rielly.
Could be a fun summer, canucks look open for Business
Lebrun on Canucks:
Pettersson, Boeser and DeBrusk are available. They want to tear it all down…On Pettersson…I think Canucks are willing to retain.The last thing the Leafs need is the refuse of the Vanpoover Cancucks.
Those three guys are signed until 2031 and 2032. That’s way too long even for accepting a cap dump for a draft pick unless the Leafs blow up the entire team and do a full rebuild.
All three also have a full NMC which means they could say no to a trade to the Leafs which Boeser and DeBrusk most likely would. Pettersson might be so useless he would go anywhere but if he’s that useless, the Leafs should steer clear of adding another problem player who brings the Leafs more of the same garbage that guarantees they lose in the 1st round.
Pettersson has played 8 seasons in the NHL and 6 of them have been substandard for what he is getting paid for now with the last two being absolute dog shit and a big part of the reason why his team was the worst in the NHL. Even if Pettersson was on a 50% retained contract, he still wouldn’t be worth the cap hit for the 40-50 points and -25 he would bring. He’s also painfully weak, gets hurt a lot because of it and plays a soft game overall. Even if his point scoring is rehabilitated by playing with Nylander, the defects in his game would crumble that combo when it matters most as both players would become a huge defensively liability when games get tight and physical.
Can’t see the value in him whatsoever other than the Swedish triangle between Sundin and Nylander. The allure of his single 100 point season isn’t enough to take that risk. He missed the playoffs that season too by the way. If there was a player to grab from that sad sack franchise, it was Bo Horvat. The Leafs missed the boat on that one badly. He would have been a perfect fit and his cost was a joke compared to what the Leafs have paid for rentals.
Lol.
Toxicity central.
Hiller played a 1-3-1 in LA because he had to. Big analytics guy.
It won’t be the same in Toronto.
It’s a good hire. He overachieved in LA. It was just not a good team.
!@#$ your doom and gloom.
Fail hire.
I’m so tired of the indoctrinated clowns who think the Liberals are here to protect us. They’re here to bring Canada down, as part of Agenda 2030 and crashing Europe and Canada would put these countries in the column of the unelected, Communist World Economic Forum. Without Trump’s victory in 2024, the U.S. would also be in that column and Communism would rule the World. These cockroaches infest every country that they burrow into. The G20 needs to be eliminated and the WEF must be destroyed. Keep your bio-engineered ticks & mosquitos and fuck off out of our country.
Hence why some people in Alberta are saying, fuck this shit and trying to hit the eject button. 100% justified in putting pressure on this corrupt, unelected liberal government so that it can collapse and get everybody back on the right track for the first time in more than a decade.
I know that Chicago covets Knies. I’d rather send him West, than having our chief rival get him. I wouldn’t take less than the 4th overall pick +. The 4th overall pick gets you one of the top 3 defensemen. Chase Reid would be my preferred candidate. If San Jose takes him, and Vancouver takes Malhotra, then Stenberg becomes your prize. If it’s Stenberg, maybe trading down gets you more assets in the first round.
Trading Knies, again, makes no sense if you want to contend now or if you want to rebuild. He’s young enough that if you trade Matthews and Nylander, in 3-4 years, Knies becomes a leader of the team turns the corner. If you trade him for 4th overall, that player won’t have an impact in less than 2 years and Matthews probably demands a trade or walks as a UFA.
Everything Chayka does makes sense on some internal spreadsheet but absolutely sucks in practice.
Maybe it was strategic. Make it so toxic, that Nylander and Matthews will want to leave. Hence the rebuild starts. There were so many better candidates, but they chose this guy. Gruden would have been a better choice. He may end up being an assistant.
I doubt it. Hiller is the advanced stats nerd coach Chayka wants and he was probably the guy Matthews and Nylander would go to when Babcock was on their ass. Hiller was the “good cop” assistant coach from the past. Leafs are desperate to recreate the 1st round exit nostalgia of 5 years ago.
He’s also coached ultra defensive, shit offensive teams in LA the last few years so it’s not like he’s going to let the guys run wild and score a bunch of goals to increase their trade value either.
It’s a bad move if you want to contend and it’s a bad rebuild move too. It’s just another half ass, half measure typical Leafs move. Gruden was the better choice with his AHL success and the number of Marlies they could promote.
• There was a feeling that with Brad Treliving gone from Toronto the Matthew Knies trade noise would disappear. That is not the case.
The Maple Leafs’ new front office is still looking to shake it up and Tuesday’s trade with Philadelphia is small potatoes compared to some of the things they’re thinking about. Knies’ name is the biggest one out there from Toronto and there are teams all over GM John Chayka about this player. Everyone has linked Knies to Montreal, but there are many teams pushing hard for him and it’s something the Leafs are thinking long and hard about.
Rumors about Knies not going away yet.
