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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI need a reminder of how great Vegas is and how much Marner is bringing to that team. What a hot mess, so glad we moved on.
You need a reminder than Marner doesn’t play in net? Retard.
VGK is #1 in injuries and worst in goaltending. Literally the only reasons why they’re playing less than their full potential.
Could be worse though; they could be a lottery team with no draft pick like the Leafs.
Brandon Carlo looks amazing though. So glad we filled the team with pylons for that glorious cap space they “saved”.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantSo it sounds like Matthews had knee surgery today.
OUCH !!!!!!MCL Grade 3 is almost always surgery if the player wants to recover to play pro sports again. It was expected. They probably just had to wait for the swelling to go down to do the surgery properly.
He’s actually really lucky it was just the MCL because the ACL recovery would have been much, much worse. PCL sucks too, McDavid torn his years ago and that one could have ended his career.
Hopefully, he’s allowed to take stem cells and peptides. That will significantly reduce his recovery time. Illegal in Canada, of course, so he’ll have to do that elsewhere.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIf the team tanks now, they don’t have their 2028 pick as it will belong to Philly.
Best they go on that Glory Run and give Boston a pick in the teens.
If the Leafs owned their 1st over all picks, I’d be right with you on the tank so they can get some new blood on the team.
Behr should be interesting.I agree with you.
The best case scenario is as follows:
Leafs go on a winning streak, shoot up the standings, Boston picks 12th-16th overall. Treliving is fired on the last day of the season.
Leafs hire Chris Pronger as GM and Ron Francis as the President of Hockey Ops. Pelley is told to stay the fuck away from the Leafs.
Leafs hire Mike Futa to run the Amateur Scouting Department. He did great work in LA, helped build winners, he’s local and looks like he’d take the job.
Leafs keep Berube as head coach. This prevents the hiring of DeBoer or Laviolette who could create a “wild card pretender” scenario for next season. Keeping Berube puts all the pressure on the players instead of giving them another excuse. They’ve had enough coaches fired already. Keep Berube until the core players are traded, then hire some rookie coach like Steve Sullivan to tank.
You make zero trades that cost draft picks or prospects. You only sign UFAs to short term deals that you can flip at the TDL. You trade Stolarz and run with Woll and Hildeby.
Run the 2026/2027 season out, Leafs won’t contend but won’t give up a top 10 pick to the Flyers either. Hopefully Matthews and Nylander put up some decent points to increase their value. You offload OEL, Tanev, McCabe; literally all depth players over 25 who gets you a draft pick. You make it clear as day to Matthews that his time is up in Toronto.
With 1 year left on Matthews’ deal, you trade him at the 2027 draft. After Matthews is gone to the highest bidder, Nylander would likely want out and so would Rielly, Tavares and everybody else. You acquire only 1st round picks, top prospects and roster players under 25. Should be able to accumulate 10-12 blue chips for all the assets. There’s also the possibility you could get a top 5 pick at the draft included in the package for Matthews or Nylander, depending on the situation.
Sign the worst goalie in the NHL available for tanking purposes.
Tank 2027/2028. Draft in the lottery. Tank 2028/2029. Draft in the lottery. Try to sign McDavid to the max contract if he’s available. Try to sign Rod Brind’Amour as head coach.
Contend in 2030 with a team loaded with new core players under 25, McDavid, Brind’Amour and cap space to plug the gaps.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWBC is over, Glad the US lost.
Jays season starts 27th . Wooo!
Randomly thinking about when the Jays traded Moreno and Gurriel for Vasho…people were freaking out, also crapping on them Keeping Kirk instead..esp since Kirk has been the second most valuable Catcher in the League.
Varsho is prob my fav player to watch right now, lets hope he has a full healthy season. should be a 5+ war playerVenezuela works for the US now, so, they still won. Puerto Rico, Cuba and Venezuela can become the Latino States of America.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantLooking at the Leafs schedule, they’ve played more than every other team. Many of their remaining games are on the road against teams close to them, in the overall standings. Lose a few key games, and they’re there! I just don’t want a Glory Run when it means nothing. I see a lot of love for Maccelli. Where was his production when the team could have used it? It doesn’t mean much during garbage time. Hopefully, they don’t qualify him because he’s just a filler on the wing. I wouldn’t mind the Leafs resigning Laughton, at the end of the season. First, let LA make the playoffs and turn the third into to a second, then just wait for them to lose in round 1. No thanks to McMann. He’ll be the next David Clarkson for the team that signs him.
You got this completely backwards.
Yes, Maccelli is small and he sucks but if he has value, why would you let him walk for nothing? That’s just stupid.
Speaking of stupid, signing Laughton is a waste of time. Unless you plan to trade him again at the TDL for another 2nd round pick.
I’m glad the Leafs got picks for McMann but they also let Hyman walk thinking he was going to be a big nothing and he ended up scoring 50. McMann doesn’t fix this team but if somebody signed him but he’s not necessarily going to be a garbage pylon like Clarkson was either. If McMann goes the “hometown” route, he could score a lot playing with McDavid and Drai.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI hope the Leafs don’t go on another Glory Run and kill an opportunity for a top 5 pick. You have to know that the Leafs will get down to 5th from the bottom and someone above them wins the draft lottery and pushes them to 6th. Boston gets to pick and they get a player that plays in their top 6 for 15 to 20 years. Sound familiar? They should just tie the can to Treliving and get their new Management team together and allows them to look at this piece of sh!t roster.
The time to plan a tank was 4 months ago. They can’t expect to tank with so few games left in the season with two healthy starting goalies. The Leafs getting a top 5 pick is a pipe dream at this point. They’re better off winning 10 games and just guaranteeing that Boston gets a bad pick.
Also, getting a top 5 pick this year won’t fix this team. In fact, it makes it easier for this idiot management group to “go for it” again next year built on false hope.
They need to wash this year and next year, trade Matthews at the 2027 draft, tank in 2028 and tank in 2029.
Rebuild. Properly.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAnd I totally know what 23BigIQ means
Yeah, we know, when you’ve been exposed as the totally retarded moron that you are, you switch names and pretend to be somebody else. Nothing new. Same retard that’s been getting wrecked and pretending to be somebody new.
Carry on Retard Ranger.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantNobody cares what I would do because I’m a total fucking retard.
We know 23BigIQ aka Retard Ranger, we know.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI would Fire Tre/Burube at the end of the Season, let a New GM try and do an on the fly retool for 26-27, see how it goes. There is not point tanking next season.
If its another tire fire, then look at trading Auston at the TDL or off season and go full scorched. AM will still have 1 full season left with his new teamThe real firing that needs to happen but won’t is Pelley. If that idiot is still in charge, nothing below him will improve, even if they shuffle the chairs on the Titanic.
You’re right, they can’t tank next season but they can still make it clear they plan to rebuild for 2028.
Make zero trades that cost picks or prospects. Only sign UFAs that you plan to trade at the TDL. Start asking for lists of teams from all players for their next destination.
I would actually keep Berube but fire Treliving. If you keep Berube, the pressure shifts to the players rather than blaming the coach (again) for the failures of the team. That pressure helps guarantee the players waive and get traded. If the Leafs fire Berube and hire a DeBoer or Laviolette, there could be a mirage of success where they become a wild card pretender.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantTavares seems to always get slapped by that Long Island karma. Both he, the Leafs and even the Islanders would have been better off if he just stayed put.
Leafs signed another midget, Vincent Borgesi, 5’8″ 173 lbs RHD from the NCAA. Probably a Marlies lifer.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantHappy St. Patrick day y’all
Yes, pray for Ireland because Ireland has fallen.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantOf course it won’t work for long, fake. For christs sake, I’ve been demanding change to this core for years on end.
It’s just so leafy that this shame induced compete level will screw up their possibility of drafting in the top 5.
The “change” to this core was ruined when they let go of Kadri and Hyman. The core got worse when they extended Rielly to a huge, long term contract. The core was destroyed when they signed Tavares to a ridiculous contract that he never lived up to and forced the price of the rest of the core way up.
If this team had simply kept Kadri and Hyman, traded Rielly instead and never signed Tavares, they would still have Matthews, Marner and Nylander with a much better supporting cast.
The Leafs tanked and drafted high. They drafted a couple guys here and there that were useful. But they did not draft enough of them and traded away a bunch of them along the way.
Hyman | Matthews | Marner
Knies | Kadri | Nylander
Robertson | Minten | Cowan
HolmbergRielly | Durzi
Sandin | Liljegren
Benoit | Danford
MiddletonWoll | Hildeby
Looking at that list of Leafs draft picks, they absolutely sucked ass at drafted D. If they had kept their drafted forwards and just used the UFA / trade market for D like signing OEL etc. they would have been much, much better off than what they did by trading forwards, letting good players walk for nothing and blowing their load on Tavares.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI see talk that the Leafs will let Maccelli walk?
why are they so dumb all the time? Tre is horendous at asset management, got crushed trading for Laughton then trades him for pennies on the dollar. fire him just for thatanyway hope its just stupid internet talk.
Maccelli is small and he sucks but he is an RFA and they will not let him walk. If he keeps getting garbage time goals, he could be close to 20 goals and 40 points. I can’t remember the last 20 goal – 40 point player that was not qualified unless he has a serious attitude problem.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantGudas shames the Leafs into competing.
Hilarious.
The revenge on Gudas is limited because the Leafs don’t have many goons left but they could call up Blake Smith from the Marlies for the revenge game. That way you have Pezzetta and Smith who can both take turns pounding on Gudas. I’d send at least 3 different guys to fight him. Sign Rosehill to a PTO if you have to.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantWho is this Groulx and why is he scoring so much?
I like him…but go away until next year….we need a top 5 pick.
Really the only way to fix this teamA full tear down and rebuild is the only way to fix this team. One top-five pick won’t do shit but make this mediocre team delay the inevitable.
Matthews can and will walk as a UFA. He won’t be able to win here. He needs to go the Kessel route and so does Nylander. Be a secondary player on a true contender.
The Leafs need a multitude of picks and draft picks to fix this mess. One isn’t enough.
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