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Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI kind of agree with you. I hope they keep Gausman, but it wouldn’t hurt my feelings to see Kirk traded. Valenzuela looks like a great young catcher who’s a switch-hitter. Maybe Vasrsho could be traded, but they need to get an above-average center fielder. Springer? I’d keep him, but the AAV needs to fit.
Nah, they have to sell hard. If they move out 4 or 5 expiring contracts or veterans, it gives them the opportunity to replenish the system which they can either continue to develop or flip in future trades. If they want Gausman or anybody else to return, bring them back as a UFA.
Big surprise, the Jays needed a legit left handed starter so therefore the Dodgers got Skubal.
That’s, once again, the difference between a team that wants to win any cost and the losers like Toronto sports franchises.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantFat Bastard decided to take the year off, which also killed the chemistry. The Jays are stuck with Pork Chop until the Leafs win the Cup. In other words, decades.
I think it’s unfair to say he took the year off because that doesn’t seem to be in his character. If anything, he’s trying too hard and making it worse. For everything he did in the playoffs last year, he gets a mulligan for this season. But he better show up next year or else the Jays are going to be in a full blown crisis moving forward.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantOther people’s opinions that differ from your own OPINION aren’t “Wrong” they are different you absolute fucking loser.
And for what it’s worth most people here think the vast majority of your OPINIONS are dog shit – regardless of if it’s about the Blue Jays or Leafs but your too much of a fucking child to understand that.
Your opinion is wrong again Retard Ranger with that 23BigIQ.
Jays suck balls and the players themselves say the team is disjointed. Every weakness was easily identified before the season started and went unaddressed by management. They had an opportunity and they pissed it way. Unfortunately, you’re too retarded to realize it despite every piece of evidence slapping you across the face.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantBo and Bassit have both had terrible seasons on losing teams. looks like they suddenly forgot how to win.
no doubt last season was more fun and the players felt closer, they got to game 7 of the WS, and this season they sucked.
but winning breeds good vibes, its not really the other way around.but I get it, players dont have the answers, so you give fluff answers doing your best to guess what went wrong
Wrong. Cohesive teams win more games. The Jays had a combination that worked. They ruined it by disrupting what worked and failing to add enough to the mix.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantThey could have also traded Gimenez for help in the bullpen or for a bat
Giminez has 72 million owed to him 2027-2030, he has less an zero value. They could maybe trade for someone else black hole player who is owed a lot of money, but they cant just move him for value.
I saw someone mention trading him for Lindor, but thats a huge risk also, since hes owed a lot more, 32yo and a 1 WAR player this year.
but thats the type of deal you would be looking atPlenty of other “bad contracts” out there, at the end of the day, it’s still only money. You take money back in the deal but at a different position and it becomes a lateral move.
Report: Kevin Gausman says Blue Jays ‘not nearly as close-knit’ as 2025:
“I don’t think we necessarily have the characters we’ve had in the past,” Gausman said. “Max (Scherzer) hasn’t been around as much. I think losing (Chris Bassitt) was maybe a little bit bigger of a loss than we all thought it would be.”
”(Bassitt) and Bo (Bichette) are two guys who had been around,” Ernie Clement told Wilner. “They knew how to win. Any clubhouse wants guys like that and misses guys like that.”
Rekt.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantCelebrini 18.8m x 5 ..could have got max im sure.
I cant wait for Mckenna to sign for more than this out of his ELC
McKenna will not have 100+ points or be 4th in the NHL in scoring in his 2nd season.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantAfter careful and extensive analysis, the winning recipe is :
Knies Matthews Roslovic
McKenna Tavares Cowan
Joshua Blueger Nylander
Paul Sissons Duhaime
(Lorentz/MacEwen)I don’t want to switch Knies to his off side
Nylander is the new Garland
Hoping Koblar makes itRoslovic absolutely sucks. Giving him 1st line minutes is just asking to lose games.
Everybody knows McKenna is playing with Matthews. Matthews needs the passes and that’s what McKenna does best. Matthews also helps protect against McKenna’s horrid defensive game.
If Nylander does play on the 3rd line, he’ll play there with Sissons and Paul. Joshua and Blueger are 4th liners.
Koblar has played zero pro games on NA ice. He’s going to the Marlies.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantGood thing SJ is paying 1.5M on Karlsson current contract.
Yes, there’s pros and cons to this potential trade. I get that.
The Leafs cap will be tight if the trade does go down. Domi going on LTIR to start or possibly the whole season will help with that.Way more negatives than positives. The Leafs just overpaid Raddysh, you think they’re going to bring in ANOTHER high price, offense only RHD? Who plays the PP? Karlsson or Raddysh?
It just doesn’t make sense.
Unholy_Goalie
Participantcould Dubas and Chayka get together on a D swap?
Karlsson for Rielly?
Would Rielly waive to go to Pittsburg?Karlsson makes 10 AAV and absolutely sucks defensively. That means, if the Leafs bring him in, they can’t just hide him on the 3rd pair like they could with Klingberg who would probably cost 2 million or less. But Sundin might pull the Swedish card and not give a fuck about how bad Karlsson is and just do it because he thinks he’s a good guy.
The only benefit of Karlsson is that he only has 1 year left on his deal which means A) he will be motivated to play his best for his next contract and B) if he still sucks defensively, you let him walk and Rielly is off your books for the next five years.
I doubt Dubas moves on from Karlsson. He did a lot to get him to Pittsburgh and he outperformed Rielly last year by 30 points. It doesn’t benefit Pittsburgh enough.
I think the only way Rielly waives to go to Pittsburgh is if Crosby gets involved. Rielly seems hellbent on never leaving Toronto.
Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIf the re-signed Bo, they either dont sign Okamoto or still do and they split time in the infield Okamoto/Bo/Clement/Gimenez. Even if Bo was a 5war player this season with the Jays, it might make 2 wins difference, since you just shift time between them and other will be less.
and Bo on the team doesnt suddenly make Vlad also have a 5war season.and wtf are you talking about with saving money, first they didnt, they spent, also I posted here many times I wanted them to get Kyle Tucker and Bo if possible.
Wrong. They could have retained Bo and still brought in Okamoto. Having a four man platoon in the in-field would have worked great with Bo and Okamoto also being capable of playing DH when Springer went down to injury. They could have also traded Gimenez for help in the bullpen or for a bat in the outfield. Either scenario would have made the Jays a better team and only cost them money, which they have plenty of to spend.
Again, your autistic obsession with stats doesn’t account for team chemistry and morale. Bo and Vlad grew up together in the system. Notice how Bo started off shit but then has been rather good the last 30-40 games. Vlad never figured it out though. That’s something they could help each other with. It’s not as direct a connection as Matthews being shit without Marner but there is a level of familiarity and team chemistry that was disrupted when the Jays didn’t bring back the core pieces that helped them get to within one out of a World Series victory.
The Jays did not fill in the required gaps. They signed Cease, which was great, but they didn’t bring in a starting LHP. A couple of injuries and all of a sudden Corbin and Miles are starting games. They needed an elite closer but instead they trotted Hoffman out there, watching him blow games until they made Varland the closer. If they had signed a closer, they’d have Varland as an elite set-up guy and an elite closer or vice versa. Instead, they forced themselves to promote Varland (30 games too late) and still have a weak bullpen outside of him.
They also did not add a bat to the outfield. Varsho has been nothing special offensively, just like he was shit in the playoffs last year, Barger got hurt, Springer was hurt and they’ve just been rotating guys all year. If they had added more weapons, those injuries would have hurt them a lot less than they did. When you build a team, you have to account for injuries. The Jays built a team thinking everything was going to go perfect and when things didn’t go perfect, the season was quickly lost.
Yes, they “tried” to get Tucker but when they didn’t succeed, instead of shifting that money over to Bo, they him walk too. And then, didn’t even use that money on any other bat in the outfield or arm in the rotation. They could have spent that 60 million on addressing their other needs. They basically said, it’s either Tucker gets 60 million or we spend 0 more dollars. It was retarded.
If the Jays had done what I said which was retain Bo, sign a legit starter LHP, bring in an elite closer and add a bat to the outfield, this team would still be at worst in a wild card spot. I know it brings you tremendous pain to admit I was right but the facts are the facts; the Jays fucked up the offseason hard and didn’t add enough to bring them back to the World Series.
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