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could Dubas and Chayka get together on a D swap?
Karlsson for Rielly?
Would Rielly waive to go to Pittsburg?Karlsson makes 10 AAV and absolutely sucks defensively. That means, if the Leafs bring him in, they can’t just hide him on the 3rd pair like they could with Klingberg who would probably cost 2 million or less. But Sundin might pull the Swedish card and not give a fuck about how bad Karlsson is and just do it because he thinks he’s a good guy.
The only benefit of Karlsson is that he only has 1 year left on his deal which means A) he will be motivated to play his best for his next contract and B) if he still sucks defensively, you let him walk and Rielly is off your books for the next five years.
I doubt Dubas moves on from Karlsson. He did a lot to get him to Pittsburgh and he outperformed Rielly last year by 30 points. It doesn’t benefit Pittsburgh enough.
I think the only way Rielly waives to go to Pittsburgh is if Crosby gets involved. Rielly seems hellbent on never leaving Toronto.
If the re-signed Bo, they either dont sign Okamoto or still do and they split time in the infield Okamoto/Bo/Clement/Gimenez. Even if Bo was a 5war player this season with the Jays, it might make 2 wins difference, since you just shift time between them and other will be less.
and Bo on the team doesnt suddenly make Vlad also have a 5war season.and wtf are you talking about with saving money, first they didnt, they spent, also I posted here many times I wanted them to get Kyle Tucker and Bo if possible.
Wrong. They could have retained Bo and still brought in Okamoto. Having a four man platoon in the in-field would have worked great with Bo and Okamoto also being capable of playing DH when Springer went down to injury. They could have also traded Gimenez for help in the bullpen or for a bat in the outfield. Either scenario would have made the Jays a better team and only cost them money, which they have plenty of to spend.
Again, your autistic obsession with stats doesn’t account for team chemistry and morale. Bo and Vlad grew up together in the system. Notice how Bo started off shit but then has been rather good the last 30-40 games. Vlad never figured it out though. That’s something they could help each other with. It’s not as direct a connection as Matthews being shit without Marner but there is a level of familiarity and team chemistry that was disrupted when the Jays didn’t bring back the core pieces that helped them get to within one out of a World Series victory.
The Jays did not fill in the required gaps. They signed Cease, which was great, but they didn’t bring in a starting LHP. A couple of injuries and all of a sudden Corbin and Miles are starting games. They needed an elite closer but instead they trotted Hoffman out there, watching him blow games until they made Varland the closer. If they had signed a closer, they’d have Varland as an elite set-up guy and an elite closer or vice versa. Instead, they forced themselves to promote Varland (30 games too late) and still have a weak bullpen outside of him.
They also did not add a bat to the outfield. Varsho has been nothing special offensively, just like he was shit in the playoffs last year, Barger got hurt, Springer was hurt and they’ve just been rotating guys all year. If they had added more weapons, those injuries would have hurt them a lot less than they did. When you build a team, you have to account for injuries. The Jays built a team thinking everything was going to go perfect and when things didn’t go perfect, the season was quickly lost.
Yes, they “tried” to get Tucker but when they didn’t succeed, instead of shifting that money over to Bo, they him walk too. And then, didn’t even use that money on any other bat in the outfield or arm in the rotation. They could have spent that 60 million on addressing their other needs. They basically said, it’s either Tucker gets 60 million or we spend 0 more dollars. It was retarded.
If the Jays had done what I said which was retain Bo, sign a legit starter LHP, bring in an elite closer and add a bat to the outfield, this team would still be at worst in a wild card spot. I know it brings you tremendous pain to admit I was right but the facts are the facts; the Jays fucked up the offseason hard and didn’t add enough to bring them back to the World Series.
Leafs are about to clear out their athletics and conditioning department and bring in Andy O’Brien who has a fantastic track record with four Cups in the last 10 years as both a Director of Sport Science & Performance with the Penguins and a High Performance Consultant with the Panthers.
the Jays UFA additions have been good, Cease, Okamoto etc.
its Springer, Kirk, Guererro, Clement, Varsho, Barger all having well below career avg years has tanked the offence, the what the F happened to the offence question is about what happened to Springer, Kirk, Guererro, Clement, Varsho. (barger injured)
keeping Bo Bichete would have done nothing with his 88 ops+. he would have fit right in.its not a mystery why they are where they are, its hard to explain what happened to them.
even the defense has gotten a lot worse.the jays had a good offseason from a pure WAR perspective. blaming that is dumb..so yeah, keep dumbing
Cease and Okamoto were never blamed for the state of the team. They were great, welcomed additions. The issue was, there weren’t enough additions to address the obvious deficiencies the team had and they let the wrong guys go. But you’d have to be literate to understand that level of *very* complicated conditions.
Yes, a lot of guys have offensively sucked this year but as we saw with the Red Sox, a manager change turned their season around. And that’s perhaps what the Jays needed but refuse to do despite their managers being rather average with questionable decision making.
Bo had a bad start but he’s been heating up on a shit team the last 30-40 games. He grew up with Vlad through the system and it’s no secret they were close friends. It would have been expensive but they should have found a way to keep Bo and keep the obvious chemistry intact. The Jays disrupted the chemistry and now they suck ass.
But congrats, you’re happy they saved money and back to being mediocre. Keep being retarded.
time to sell, it sucks but get whatever you can for UFAs.
what a train wreck of the season. so much excitement after the WS. what the F happened to the offence?
A shit offseason where they didn’t retain enough players or make enough improvements, and as predicted, you were wrong.
Could have also fired the coach earlier this season as it worked wonders for the Red Sox.
You lost me at Klingon
Trust me, I don’t like him either. However, he’s a RHD who has proven he can score points and Rielly, for all his faults, could score points. And that needs to be replaced.
If Klingberg is cheap enough and plays very limited minutes (less than 18), he could prove to be useful especially on the 2nd PP or if Raddysh regresses which is likely.
dumb people will blame Jeff hoffman. he was .5 war last season and basically zero in 2026
2025 – Springer, Kirk, Guererro, Clement, Varsho, Barger = 21.4 war
same group 2026 = 3.7a 17 win swing
Retards will forget that he sucked last year after he imploded late in the season and should have been removed from the closer role prior to the playoffs.
Yup, the offense sucks because they broke up a group that was a working formula and didn’t do enough to reinforce the roster. As predicted, the Jays lost this season with their shit UFA strategy.
Jays are now doing their best Leafs impression with a post all-star break implosion.
If Cowen is on the team come September 29th, for , he needs to play in the top 6
And really, you are pairing the Leafs smallest Dmen togehter. Good thing, they’re on the 4th D pairing.Nope. Cowan is better served playing a two-way role than being forced to score goals and points. They will already have McKenna in the top-six as a teenage rookie. Adding Cowan to that puts too much pressure on young guys to show up every single night.
Yes, the two midget D are spare parts.
Knies | Matthews | Roslovic
McKenna | Tavares | Nylander
Paul | Sissons | Duhaime
Joshua | Blueger | LorentzRoslovic absolutely sucks. It was, by far, the biggest waste of 4 million AAV the Leafs could have possibly spent. If he’s on the 1st line, the Leafs are absolutely fucked.
That 2nd line would be -150. The absolute worst possible line defensively. There is absolutely no chance McKenna isn’t playing with Matthews. Matthews can play two-way hockey to compensate for how horrid McKenna is defensively and Matthews needs a winger to feed him passes. It’s the most obvious combination imaginable.
Cowen gets the first nod to come up for injured F player
Again, Paul and Duhaime are 4th liners. Joshua should be traded or in the press box. Cowan is a 3rd liner right now given how he plays.
Cowboy will be a Marlies because he can be sent to the minors and not get claimed off waivers
No chance unless he absolutely sucks in camp which is unlikely. He should have been with the Marlies all year last year but now that he played 66 games last year and then with the Marlies as they won the Calder Cup, he’s with the Leafs for better or for worse now.
Domi is LTIR. He’s back to walking and driving a car but nowhere near ready to play in the NHL.
MacEwen was signed and is on their cap according to PuckPedia but he’s going to get sent down. He’s a big body, kind of a goon so he won’t be with the Leafs all year.
That gives the Leafs 13 forwards and likely one of Lorentz or Joshua as the extra forward with the other being on the 4th line.
Leafs really should be looking at trading Joshua and Rielly. That would clear over 10 million in cap space. It would allow them to replace Rielly with Logan Stanley (6’7″, defensive D) and possibly bring in a cheap offensive D for the bottom pair like Klingberg. They tried bringing him in before but he played too much. If they used him only for offensive situations, Klingberg could replace most of the offensive numbers you would lose by trading Rielly. Stanley would eat up the defensive minutes and play the PK.
Leafs should also consider bringing in Bunting on a 1 or 2 year deal.
OUT: Joshua + Rielly = 10.75 AAV
IN: Stanley @ 4.75 AAV x 5, Bunting @ 4 AAV x 1 or 2 and Klingberg @ 2 AAV x 1 = 10.75 AAVMcKenna | Matthews | Knies
Bunting | Tavares | Nylander
Cowan | Sissons | Roslovic
Paul | Blueger | Duhaime
LorentzOEL | Tanev
McCabe | Raddysh
Stanley | Klingberg
Andrae | StecherBob | Stolarz
for those interested, Dom put out his most improved teams so far.
net rating, whatever that actually means. Leafs 4th.
worth noting, that doesnt include Mckenna. he has Mckenna as similar to Michkovs rookie season.1. Nashville Predators
Net Rating added: +272. New York Rangers
Net Rating added: +263. Washington Capitals
Net Rating added: +234. Toronto Maple Leafs
Net Rating added: +21
In: Jack Roslovic, Nick Paul, Teddy Blueger, Colton Sissons, Brandon Duhaime, Darren Raddysh, Emil Andrae, Sergei Bobrovsky
Out: Matias Maccelli, Nick Robertson, Calle Järnkrok, Brandon Carlo, Simon Benoit, Joseph WollIf “improvement” means going from a lottery team to a wild card pretender, sure. Obviously, the worst teams have the biggest margin to improve by but if you look at what they did, they didn’t really do much except splash a bunch of money on older players and take a bunch of risks to hope they can keep Matthews happy in his final two years.
Roslovic: Worst UFA signing the Leafs made. One-dimensional player, soft as shit, overpaid, trash in the playoffs.
Paul: Overpaid for 7 goals. Already have Joshua doing the same shit for the same price. Lorentz, same player, half the price.
Blueger: Solid 4C option, good price. Zero offense.
Sissons: Good player but overpaid. Zero offense.
Duhaime: Good 4th line winger, hits everybody. Zero offense.
Raddysh: Grossly overpaid for his first and only good season. Can’t skate or play D. Another Rielly contract situation sooner rather than later.
Andrae: Tiny 7th D, probably won’t do shit until injuries hit.
Bob: Was once great but coming off a horrid season and 38.Woll was the best goalie in the system and should have stayed over Stolarz. Also, Rielly is still not gone which is a defensive disaster.
Leafs are still one of the oldest teams in the NHL and in one of the toughest divisions. If “improvement” means they can be a wild card team, the bar is low because the goal should still be a Cup and this team is nowhere near that.
