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Add Knies, by then he’ll be hitting his mid twenties so sell him off too.
Look at the 4 d men that still will be signed for awhile and what age they’ll be at once Matthews contract is up. At this time in the final year of Matthews’ contract those 4 are Rielly, McCabe at 34, OEL at 36, and Tanev at 37. All of them signed for 2 more years after that except OEL who’s done at the end of that season as well.
No, Knies would stay. Leafs have him for 7 years and he shouldn’t be moved, they’ll need him later. He’s still young enough to become an impact player later on much like Kadri would have been had he not be traded.
After you trade Matthews and Nylander, the rest of the team knows there is no longer any reason to stay on this team and all agree to move on as well. Tavares and Rielly would beg to be traded off a lottery team.
Traded at the draft:
Matthews: Two 1st round picks + top prospect + young roster top-six FWD or top-four D
Nylander: 1st round pick + top prospect OR young roster top-six FWD or top-four DTraded at the trade deadline to a contender who will overpay for a Cup run.
Tanev: 1st round pick or young RHD or top D prospect
McCabe: 1st round pick or young D prospect
OEL: 1st round pick or young D prospect
Tavares: 1st round pick or young top-six forward
Rielly: 1st round pick or young D prospectIf anybody questions if these players can get a 1st round pick, the Leafs traded a 1st + a prospect for Laughton and Carlo so go fuck yourself and learn how the trade deadline makes teams vastly overpay every year.
In theory, a giant sell off could yield the Leafs as many as eight 1st round picks (plus their own) and at least two top prospects or young roster players.
If the Leafs have nine 1st round picks in one draft and even only 3 or 4 of them become useful top-six FWD or top-four D plus their own lottery pick becomes a franchise player, they could literally overhaul their entire team in one year. If they tank for two more years, they could add one more franchise player plus one more top-six FWD or top-four D.
They could use all their 2nd and 3rd round picks on depth pieces and keep drafting goalies in hopes of finding a future goaltender too.
The year Matthews’ contract ends truly makes me curious tbh. I can see that being the year that change begins.
The Leafs are fucked for this year and next year because they have no 1st round pick. But they can fully tank in the 2027/2028 season if they keep their 1st round pick.
This team is not worth trading that 1st round pick.
So they can trade Matthews and Nylander in the offseason of 2027, acquire as many picks and top prospects as possible, tank for 28, 29 and 30. And then maybe, they’ll have a good core after that.
I meant the leash around Berube’s neck is tightening. He’s a big dog without any bite ..and I agree, I don’t think he’s a good coach. If this team is floundering around Xmas the noise about his job will get loud.
I disagree. Berube is here until Treliving gets fired. Also, there are so few good free agent coaches out there.
Leafs are a Stollie injury away from the draft lottery ….without a pick.
Goal 1 – Matthews n McCabe with a clinical “how not to play hockey in the dzone”
Goal 2 – PK
Goal 3 – Lorentz n McCabe with a clinical “how not to play hockey in the ozone”
Goal 4 – Matthews and Domi, having watch the previous goal, with another perfect clinic on “how not to play hockey in the ozone”.Terrible. Berube’s leash is tightening.
Berube is so overrated. He’s mostly been a career.500 coach. The one year he won the Cup, he did so with a stacked blueline and Binnington who played out his mind in net.
Now Tanev is injured, that makes everything worse defensively.
Berube can tighten his leash or use an electric dog collar like a psycho lunatic would use but who is he going to punish? Who does he bench and then who comes into the line-up? This is what they are. This is what they got. And it sucks a tail pipe.
It is too early in the season, but what is real potential of this team?
1st round exit.
Trade Matthews and Nylander to recover as many top prospects and assets as possible. Tank in 2028.
Amazing effort from this team tonight. You can really, really see the change in every single molecule of the DNA of this team the way they came out firing like wild animals in the 3rd period at home. Made perfect use of that PP too.
Huge fight with 16 seconds left. Really effective.
Tavares and Nylander got their points and the Leafs eat another L. This team is going nowhere unless they have a radical change that seems to always be promised but never actually happens.
how do you give up a 4 on 1?????
Bad puck management, stupid pinch, being the Leafs is hard work.
damn tie game 🙁
Terribly stupid challenge, now they go on the PK, allowing the Devils a chance to make it 2-1 really, really fast.
Marner had more career playoff points than Tavares, Matthews and Nylander. Marner would play against Florida’s #1 line and keep them in check. He kills penalties. He ran the PP (which has not turned to shit). He contributed to 3 GWGs vs Florida. He was perfectly fine being one of the main, core guys with big responsibility. The problem was the garbage that filled the rest of the roster. The Leafs refused to get rid of the garbage like Tavares, Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and refused to pay and retain an elite, two-way player then elected to replace him with 3rd and 4th liners. It won’t end well for the Leafs as this team is worse and won’t be getting better.
He’s probably gonna win a cup, and win the Conn Smythe, in Vegas his first year and rub Leafs fans and management’s noses in it so bad! 😂
I think he will win a Cup in Vegas, maybe not immediately just because it does take teams time to come together but he wouldn’t be the first or the last. Most Leafs fans are still in denial about the Kadri disaster. That was probably the beginning of the end for this era. They had a high value player for a low cost and were too stupid to realize it. He was exactly what they needed more of in the playoffs and just did what the Leafs always do; cave to the dumbest in the fan base and the media and threw him away for garbage in return.
It was as you say “dog poop” even when Marner was on the Leafs PP.
No argument out me regarding Marc Savard.It was dog shit because of Savard and because they had to run 5 forwards on the PP because Rielly was and still is trash on the PP, not because of Marner.
Marner had 228 powerplay points (23 playoff PP points, #1 among all Leafs during that time) in all his years in Toronto, #1, more than Nylander and Matthews, so no, if the PP was shit it wasn’t because the #1 PP producer was shit.
The PP started the same way last year, then, they picked it up.
time to pickup the PP with Keefe in town.
The PP is dog shit because Marc Savard is an idiot who has no idea how to run a PP. They also lost Marner and replaced him with dog shit. The PP will continue to be shit especially in the playoffs.
Marner will be a good/important player on a team where all the focus isn’t on a group of four players to sink or die with. Vegas epitomizes a deep, balanced, big, heavy, experienced, team where everyone is a contributor and their systems play is more important than being carried by a small group of players. Just my outside opinion looking in.
Marner had more career playoff points than Tavares, Matthews and Nylander. Marner would play against Florida’s #1 line and keep them in check. He kills penalties. He ran the PP (which has not turned to shit). He contributed to 3 GWGs vs Florida. He was perfectly fine being one of the main, core guys with big responsibility. The problem was the garbage that filled the rest of the roster. The Leafs refused to get rid of the garbage like Tavares, Rielly, Jarnkrok, Kampf etc. and refused to pay and retain an elite, two-way player then elected to replace him with 3rd and 4th liners. It won’t end well for the Leafs as this team is worse and won’t be getting better.
based on your super accurate loser predictions so far, this has me hopeful
Keep those hopes sky high, it’ll be easier to see Ohtani and Teoscar Hernández’s moonshots from there.
