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Wright and Montour for 88
Byfield Clarke and 1st for 34
Isaac Howard for McMannPlan a parade 💙
That package would be a trash return for Nylander. Montour is useless to the Leafs, he’s a right handed Rielly. Wright is an okay prospect but definitely overrated. The Leafs could easily get a 1st, a top prospect and a young roster player. That is what they should be targeting.
Byfield and Clarke appear to be 2nd line / 2nd pair players which is a decent return but not enough to get Matthews who is best goal scorer not named Ovechkin the past 5 or so years. Would rather target two 1st round picks, a top prospect and a young roster player. I think Matthews would enjoy playing in California but I’d rather move him to San Jose, they could probably afford to give us more draft capital and young prospects.
McMann should get a 1st, not another small, project prospect like Robertson / Cowan.
AGAIN…everything well perfectly for the leafs to win the division last year.
The opposite has happened this year.
The players who have replaced marner, combined have more point than he does so far this year. He probably gives the leafs 1 …maybe 2 more wins…maybe. Cause they would have less depth.They would still be out of the playoffs.
You are too brain dead and narrow minded to see reality.Wrong. Matthews, Woll and Stolarz were injured last year. Not everything went perfect. Marner carried the team with 103 points and 33 power play points while Matthews was injured / useless.
These are verified facts that only a complete and total retard would deny.
The players who replaced Marner are -17, -16, -15. What part of that can’t your retarded brain understand? The points they score are irrelevant when they give up more goals than they create. This is why they lose games; they can’t defend. Marner could defend. His line shutdown other top lines, like Florida’s top line, regularly. The Leafs also suck donkey dick on the PP. I literally proved it to you. The PP% dropped 7%. The only difference is Marner isn’t on the PP. Knies and Maccelli have failed miserably to replace his PP production. Marner has 16 PP points this year, he had 33 last year. Nylander and Matthews only have 9 PP points each to LEAD the team. The drop in PP production has easily cost them 10 points in the standings.
They would 100% be in the playoffs, 2nd or 3rd in the division, easily.
Brain dead and narrow minded is exactly what you are. All the evidence could fuck you directly up the ass and you would still not believe it.
What a fucking joke. Would have loved to have seen this team in the playoffs. They are definitely not the same team as last year, but with all the injuries to key players it looks like chances are getting slim.
Not the same team because they lost a 100 point, Selke candidate and replaced him with a pile of dog shit. Don’t bitch about the injuries, there are a lot of teams with games lost due to injury who are still in the playoffs.
https://nhlinjuryviz.blogspot.com/2025/10/202526-team-injury-breakdowns.html
There’s the evidence dipshit. Vegas is #1 in the NHL in injuries. They still lead their division. Why? Because Marner, who doesn’t get injured, filled in at center to help the cause. Florida, Tampa Bay and Montreal are also in the Leafs division and have had more injuries than the Leafs. Tampa Bay is still #1 in the Atlantic, Florida is fighting for a playoff spot and Montreal is in the playoffs too. Dallas, Buffalo and Carolina are comparable to injuries and are all still in the playoffs.
The Leafs had injuries last year to Matthews, Woll and Stolarz. Marner carried the team with 103 points to 1st in the division. Why can’t the Leafs do it again this year? Oh right, because they’re a weak, bitch ass team who let Marner go and replaced him with a bunch of defensively worthless pylons.
As for Bitch Marner. Vegas has 1 more regulation win than the Leafs, they sucked when Eichel went down (apparently Mitch could not pick up the slack). Mitch has been mostly on the second line and has spent time on the 3rd line. Selke dude because he is a master of the PK? He is the 5th forward in PK TOI and there are 3 more FW within 6 seconds of him. So no he is not a PK god as some suggested and used as an argument to claim he was the reason he was the Leaf’s best forward.
As I explained to you retard, Vegas is #1 in the NHL in injuries. Marner and the Knights beat the Leafs twice. They lead their division. Marner is 2nd on the team in points. He would be #1 on the Leafs in points, assists and PP points. Pretty sure Matthews would be closer to a 50-60 goal pace too rather than his worst season since 2018.
Oh wow, Marner has power play points? Not like the Leafs need 16 extra PP points. Nah, they have Nylander and Matthews at 9 PP each to lead the PP genius Steve Sullivan / Marc Savard PP extravaganza.
Marner is 3rd in total PK time among forwards dipshit. He’s a Selke candidate because he doesn’t stand in the middle of the ice like a pylon while Montour blasts past him like Tavares did last night. What is Tavares’ defensive record? Oh right, -16 this year. Great. 4 million bucks though. So happy we saved a bunch of cap space and spent it on dog shit players to miss the playoffs with.
Perhaps he will perform better with Vegas in the playoffs as a 2nd or 3rd line forward but for now he has proved to be nothing more than a regular season star, who is more of a PP specialist than a PK star.
Perhaps Vegas isn’t retarded like the Leafs and knows how to build a team. Perhaps Vegas is smart enough to have a D-core and a forward group that knows how to play defense, unlike the Leafs where they rely on the 1st line to win every game and if they don’t, we run them out of town, replace them with 3rd liners who are -15 and miss the playoffs.
If Marner was “nothing more than a regular season star” I wonder what that says about Nylander, Tavares and Matthews who all have less career playoff points than Marner. Marner is a PP specialist? Damn, wish we had one of those instead of one of the worst PPs in the NHL. But I’m sure Steve Sullivan will fix it. Maybe having a good PP helps you win hockey games. But nah, in your retarded world, you don’t need 100+ points, PP points or players who know how to play defense. Much better to have one-dimensional, non-power player performers to miss the playoffs like Maccelli, Domi, Nylander and Tavares.
ya so, Winnipeg won the Predent Strophy last year and look where they are now.
Hellebuyck won the President’s Trophy last year. He got hurt this year, the team fell off a cliff without him and they can’t recover because the hole was too big.
Matthews got hurt last year, Marner still had 103 points and won the division with Matthews being either out of the lineup or playing like shit half the time. Matthews went from 50-60 goals, 100 points now to UNDER a point per game.
What the retards did not realize is that spending money on Marner helps keep Matthews value where it belongs. So the Leafs thought they were saving money by losing Marner but they actually lost value in Matthews, which is retarded.
From 2016-2017 up to last year, the Leafs PP has been an average of 24.2%. This year, it’s 17.6%. That’s approximately a difference of 7 goals per 100 opportunities which would be an extra 9 PP goals thus far, could be as many as 18-20 by the end of the season. The difference? No Marner and multiple games that could have been decided by the extra 9+ PP goals. Could easily be an extra 10 points in the standings which would put them at 67 points and tied for 3rd in the division with Buffalo. The #1 PP player for the Leafs has been Nylander and Matthews tied with 9 PP points. Marner as 16 PP points. And he’s not even being used to his full PP potential. Last year Marner had 33 PP points, 70 more at 5v5. Huge drop off that hurt the team that they could not replace.
Leafs GAA from 2016-2017 up to last year was an average of 2.92. Now it’s up to 3.46. That extra half a goal game average is the defensive difference that losing a Selke nominated, two-way player has on the team.
Between the 33 PP points contributions, the potential for 70 5v5 points, his 5v5 defensive play, all combined, would have been better than -17 Domi, -16 Tavares, -12 Maccelli. Those guys easily lost the Leafs 10 points with their defensive ineptitude and those are the guys attempting to replace Marner’s 5v5 ice time and PP time.
This team failed miserably to replace Marner. Losing him destroyed this team’s ability to contend.
The team would still be out of playoff spot with Marner in the line up.
Anyone who thinks otherwise, is just foolish.Anyone who thinks the Leafs would not be in the playoffs with Marner is retarded.
They won the division last year. He had 103 points. Just his PP contributions alone would have propelled the Leafs into the playoffs. He literally proved it last year. And his defensive game would prevent a lot of goals.
You werent telling the truth….you would just whine and complain about people justifiably dumping on marner
No, it definitely was the truth, I was definitely right and you were definitely wrong.
Unjustified dumping on Marner. The proof is in the results and destroyed your libtard world view. 103 points with Matthews injured, 1st in the division, contributed to 3 GWGs vs. Florida, the eventual Cup champions. Everything you retards said he couldn’t or wouldn’t do, he did. Then you blamed him for everything, while Nylander, Rielly, Carlo and then Tavares got a free pass because of his pajamas.
And now the team is so bad even the beLeafers can see this team absolutely sucks. Maccelli, Roy, Joshua, Tavares can’t replace him. They suck defensively. Tavares is -16. Maccelli -12. Joshua -2 and injured. Roy +1. That’s the part you retards don’t understand is how much Marner helped defensively and how much he carried the puck so that Matthews didn’t have to. Now, the more Matthews has to carry the puck, the worse he plays. Matthews has to keep Domi defensively positive, who is also a team worst -17. These are the feeble attempts to replace Marner.
You retards were so busy worried about saving money that you destroyed this team’s ability to contend.
I sincerely mean it, time to blow this roster up and build it up in another way. I’ll always cheer for them to win every game, I’m a leafs fan, but this current team is a mess, I can say it.
Been saying it for a long time.
Problem is, being bottom 5 bad is going to be tough and risks the Bruins getting 6th overall. Plus Minten.
They need to find a way to dump all the expiring contracts for maximum value but still finish high enough to not gift the Bruins a top prospect.
