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Participantwhat evidence is there risto will cut the goals by a good bit? there is next to no chance carl puts up half point per game rest of the way. nothing but an ok dime a dozen 4th line player.
there is very little separation from top to bottom. all propped up by artificial points. like the flyers 4 games up on buffalo. that is not a huge deficit at all. this is what the owners want. makes for boring hockey. like how the flyers and others play.
you should not get any points for losing. never ever. not sure why they find that hard to implement. regulation wins having the same value as OT and shootout wins is also flawed. again, this is what the owners want to prop up teams.
go flyers. brick by brick.
who will they trade a 1st for to replace the forest? looking forward to seeing the forest back for the ECF.
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Participanthuge game for buffalo. bringing up the rear they need to go on a run…..
will GH ever sit? accountability only applies to some. he offers next to nothing at this point. he is spent.
hope they can find a way to get MM some more minutes. Nah no need.
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ParticipantHow has Bonk looked since his return to playing?
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ParticipantLOL – this is completely untrue but not unexpected from you, you’re such a drama queen it’s somewhat laughable, if it wasn’t so pathetic. Briere’s first draft in 2023 they took two offensive kids in Michkov and Bonker in the first round. They also took Barkey that year, he’s small but he’s a highly offensive kid. The year after he was drafted he finished 4th in OHL scoring with 102 points. These are not 200 foot juggernauts, they’re high-end skilled kids.
2024 was a bit of a shit draft year outside the top six kids, they drafted for position there and if you look behind Luchanko and Berglund there’s no one screaming out that they should’ve taken this kid, or that kid. 2025 again they took a high offensive guy in Martone, he finished 7th in OHL scoring with 98 points.
Taking MM was a no brainer even stevie wonder could see it (same with martone or if hey took hagans). “Bonker” (another gay flyers nickname) does not project to be an offensive dman at the nhl level. If you paid any attention to his point production, you would know where he accumulated a lot of them and that will not translate to the nhl.
The flyers have a type they prefer. That is a fact. Keep arguing otherwise. Taking a few others who are not that type doesn’t change what I said. Their actions speak for themselves. Go flyers brick by brick.
Per danny:“But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”
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ParticipantLame take on comcast ownership. They spend and go the extra mile. They just hire incompetent people to run the flyers. That is the main issue.
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ParticipantLooks like York back. “Murch” is out.
Played well though need that vet presence in juulson. Really makes one wonder will Andrae come out will RR returns.
Would anyone be shocked?
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Participantyou calling anyone an idiot is pure entertainment. you are nothing but a homer suck flyers ass fan. not a hockey fan as you don’t know much. you eat their shit and like it.
– tocchet, like I said, is a losing coach. his record proves that.
– since you have comprehension issues I will say it again. There hasn’t been much diff with the forest or york out of the lineup. as you said again simple.
– yes you talked shit. is the jett still a better prospect in your eyes over buium?
– comprehension again. I said the 2 orginization were shit organizations. that’s a fact. you fluffing your feathers saying the flyers are in a playoff spot and vancouver isn’t doesn’t change that one iota dipshit.
– I dont kow what packages were offered nor did I imply I did. What I simply stated was what they accepted doesn’t mean that was the best offer. that comprehension thing again. Was MM a better piece than rossi or buium? no idea what perrault has to do with the conversation, though logic would tell me if vancouver wanted him the rangers would have no issue sending him packing.
at the end of the day your just a dumb fuck flyers fan who really believes this team is on the path to cup contention. Brick b brick. go flyers.
.609, read it and weep. That’s Tocchet’s record the last 4 seasons for “2 shit organizations.” Which is it? How did Tocchet get that record with not one but 2 “shit organizations” if he’s such a terrible coach? This is how I know how completely ignorant you are: Consistent self-contradiction.
I was busting on the Buium lovers about his atrocious early season minus numbers. I also said he’s a fine prospect with some fine offensive skills . . but he’s still a defensive liability. Today? Buium is the better, he’s in the NHL but still a flawed player. The trade is going to help him. Good D-minded coach in Foote, a team that won’t cut his ice time, like MIN was at times, no matter how many goals against he’s on for. He’s in the NHL and Luchanko isn’t. Get back to me in 1-2 years. Was MM a better piece in what? A trade the Flyers reportedly didn’t do anything other than, maybe, kick the tires on? Again, Hughes OK’ed the trade but hasn’t committed to extending.
– the comprehensive thing again. Was I not clear talking about his career? But hey use 4 years if it makes you feel good.
– facts show flyers and canucks are 2 losing peas in a pod
– comprehension rears its head again. Pretty clear what I asked about MM
– who care what Hughes approved. He didn’t have trade protection. Are you insinuating he didn’t want to come to the tocchet lead flyers who they said will attract players?
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Participantlets break it down dip shit.
1. he gets credit for those deals 100%. still doesn’t mean he isnt a putz. lets see where all 3 are by years end. Cant wait for that dvorak ext. Then add tocchet lol. flyers fans are the best. all giddy over a guy with an under .500 coaching record. like he is going to lead them anywhere
Tocchet has a .609 win percentage over the last four seasons. Not complicated.
2. as I said dont see much of a difference and the results and on ice playback that up. please elaborate otherwsie.
They took care of business against weak sisters SJ and BUF but lost once in reg and twice in OT against COL, Vegas and CAR at home. Again, simple.
3. of course they dont have a dman like buium. a guy you have talked shit on all year. now he is hughes lite.
I talked shit about him? Said he was a fine prospect but needs a ton of work defensively. VAN is tanking, so they won’t care any time soon.
4. worst team with hughes. what is your point as would love to hear it.
5. vancouver is not rebuilding. they are doing their version of a flyers rebuild. which will fail, like the flyers “rebuild”. 2 shit organizations with a lot in common.
Check the standings. They’re the worst team in the league and the Flyers are in a playoff spot. The two teams are nothing alike. This is so simple, a small child would understand it.
6. yes it does hamper the return if that is what your dead set on acquiring. how can you say otherwise. common send and business 101. its like not drafting the BPA
7. yes they got what they wanted. doesnt mean there wasn’t better packages out there.
8. yes they could have offered better. Seeing what vancouver received. Do you think MM was a better piece over rossi or buium?
Name one better package that was out there. Do you think the Rags offered Gabe Perrault straight up for Hughes? I’m impressed you can count to eight. What’s it like being the stupidest idiot in any room you enter?
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you calling anyone an idiot is pure entertainment. you are nothing but a homer suck flyers ass fan. not a hockey fan as you don’t know much. you eat their shit and like it.– tocchet, like I said, is a losing coach. his record proves that.
– since you have comprehension issues I will say it again. There hasn’t been much diff with the forest or york out of the lineup. as you said again simple.
– yes you talked shit. is the jett still a better prospect in your eyes over buium?
– comprehension again. I said the 2 orginization were shit organizations. that’s a fact. you fluffing your feathers saying the flyers are in a playoff spot and vancouver isn’t doesn’t change that one iota dipshit.
– I dont kow what packages were offered nor did I imply I did. What I simply stated was what they accepted doesn’t mean that was the best offer. that comprehension thing again. Was MM a better piece than rossi or buium? no idea what perrault has to do with the conversation, though logic would tell me if vancouver wanted him the rangers would have no issue sending him packing.
at the end of the day your just a dumb fuck flyers fan who really believes this team is on the path to cup contention. Brick b brick. go flyers.
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Participantwhy would they look to trade tippet. damn I cant think of one reason. he is a core player and valuable piece going forward towards winning a cup. what was I thinking.
I dont see much of a diff without york or the forest at this time at all. They do have pieces to make a deal for a top end player; if they become available. you just have to want to part with said pieces. its gonna hurt. I just dont think the putz GM has the nerve to make such a deal.
Vancouver wanting a center only would have hampered their return. any non idiot would see that. dumb way to go about business; though it is vancouver and they are poorly run. I would have offered MM to start then go from there. now buium is hughes lite. love it. guess your mind has changed on him big time. Are you saying the flyers have no one on D or in the system to compare to Buium?
The putz GM’s three big off-season player acquisitions are all having career years so far. Then add Tocchet. Hahaha!
Don’t see a difference? Thanks for telling us all you don’t know what you’re looking at. No, the Flyers clearly don’t have a young Dman with Buium’s one way upside. His defense? VAN was the worst team in the league with Hughes. They’re rebuilding now. Their window closed fast, as some of them do. MM for JH? Gone where from there? As usual, you have nothing. Vancouver wanting a center did not hamper their return. They got what they wanted. Of course, you keep babbling about how bad the Flyers are yet are now claiming they had the pieces to best MIN’s offer. Peak snowy day comedy.
lets break it down dip shit.
1. he gets credit for those deals 100%. still doesn’t mean he isnt a putz. lets see where all 3 are by years end. Cant wait for that dvorak ext. Then add tocchet lol. flyers fans are the best. all giddy over a guy with an under .500 coaching record. like he is going to lead them anywhere
2. as I said dont see much of a difference and the results and on ice playback that up. please elaborate otherwsie.
3. of course they dont have a dman like buium. a guy you have talked shit on all year. now he is hughes lite.
4. worst team with hughes. what is your point as would love to hear it.
5. vancouver is not rebuilding. they are doing their version of a flyers rebuild. which will fail, like the flyers “rebuild”. 2 shit organizations with a lot in common.
6. yes it does hamper the return if that is what your dead set on acquiring. how can you say otherwise. common send and business 101. its like not drafting the BPA
7. yes they got what they wanted. doesnt mean there wasn’t better packages out there.
8. yes they could have offered better. Seeing what vancouver received. Do you think MM was a better piece over rossi or buium?
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ParticipantHughes, although a fantastic player, isn’t what the Flyers need right now. They need to keep drafting, developing and building from within, now’s not “go time” as Hexy once said, in terms of adding pieces to the roster via trade.
the flyers version of the “rebuild” is over. add time
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Participantwhy would they look to trade tippet. damn I cant think of one reason. he is a core player and valuable piece going forward towards winning a cup. what was I thinking.
I dont see much of a diff without york or the forest at this time at all. They do have pieces to make a deal for a top end player; if they become available. you just have to want to part with said pieces. its gonna hurt. I just dont think the putz GM has the nerve to make such a deal.
Vancouver wanting a center only would have hampered their return. any non idiot would see that. dumb way to go about business; though it is vancouver and they are poorly run. I would have offered MM to start then go from there. now buium is hughes lite. love it. guess your mind has changed on him big time. Are you saying the flyers have no one on D or in the system to compare to Buium?
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ParticipantNot exactly a high-event game yesterday but they managed to scratch out another point, still in a WC position. Scoring is a real issue for the team, they’re the second lowest scoring team in the Easter Conference, they badly need to draft and develop some high-end offensively skilled players. Specifically at center!!
they are adverse to that, when you look at who they draft. They do not draft those high end types. need those flyer 200 ft players. that is how you win in this league. depth
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ParticipantIt does make me wonder if the Flyers have the assets to really compete to trade for the few times an elite talent under 30 becomes available. The far more likely situation seem to be a Zegras situations become available and hope Briere can hit. Young, underachievers relative to their draft status seems to be the menu. Right now, Flyers will probably be shopping in the Owen Power and Brad Lambert profile aisles. If this is the case, Martone and Michkov need to turn out to be elite wingers. Going to be a real kick in the groin if Briere extends a 30 year old Dvorak coming off a career year to start “we’re ready to compete in Summer ’26”. We’ll see what happens, but with the cap significantly increasing over the next few years, the very few times a Hughes type player becomes available for trade, there will be a significant increase amount of suitors to compete against then when the cap was relatively flat.
They clearly don’t NOW. MIN was in a unique position and they took advantage. They upgraded their D slot a ton with Hughes over Buium, Ohgren has a ways to go, they opened a hole at center but there was apparently some friction with Rossi, plus the pick and that package checked every box for VAN. I wouldn’t wring my hands over it. They seem to like Byram from BUF but GM Adams job looks tenuous. Lambert isn’t an answer. He’s regressed badly now into his 3rd pro year, he’s not short but he’s slight, D is an issue. Don’t need to see any moves any time soon. If they fall out of the race, which looks increasingly unlikely, they can still dump. If not, they can add but impossible to tell right now what they might need. Injury dependent.
These type of elite players with any term left on their contract are extremely rare. They certainly do not happen every year. Eichel being traded from BUF and Karlsson from OTT come to mind. So if trades for elite talents are so rare, other then getting lucky in the draft trying to trade for high ceiling, low floor guys like Zegras will be the way forward. If Martone and Michkov are off the table, then sure looks like trading for an elite talent will not be available. Look maybe BUF might be stupid enough to someday trade Thompson or Dahlin for something less. Who knows. More likely, a better shot to trade for Byram, Power, or even Rasmus Andersson. Seems like the entire league is looking for centers, not sure there is anyway to even trade for one unless a massive overpay for a player over 30. UFA market this summer at center is pretty much Dvorak, Coyle, and Wennberg, not great.
There is an abundance of forwards currently on the roster who would be ideally slotted on a third line if they were a cup contender. Here’s my list- Cates, Dvorak, Couts, Brink, Grebenkin, and Tippett. Would not even mind players like Couts and Grebenkin sliding down to 4th line and really be able to roll 4 good lines. I would assume if this season is about “being in the mix for playoffs”, next season should be in the playoffs, no excuses. Seems logical.
not about being in the mix at all. it is playoffs 100%. that has always been the goal. Cant wait until spring to see where they end up.
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ParticipantThere is an abundance of forwards currently on the roster who would be ideally slotted on a third line if they were a cup contender. Here’s my list- Cates, Dvorak, Couts, Brink, Grebenkin, and Tippett. Would not even mind players like Couts and Grebenkin sliding down to 4th line and really be able to roll 4 good lines. I would assume if this season is about “being in the mix for playoffs”, next season should be in the playoffs, no excuses. Seems logical.
The issue with a big package going the other way in a trade is I disagree about any great abundance for the Flyers anywhere, at least at the moment, and certainly at center and D. I think the roster looks pretty good and the Flyers, to me, look like a solid level just below elite team . . . when they’re healthy. That’s a pretty dodgy proposition. Having said all that, I think the Flyers will hold on and make the playoffs this year, just that they’re a year or two away from being able to put together an offer some team that needs to deal an elite center or Dman can’t refuse.
then your fn blind. we clearly musty watch diff games.
one thing will hold that up, danny boy loves his roster. he is torn on whether to trade owen fucking tippet. shot cates is probably untouchable. let that sink in. again its rare those types become available.
would love to know what he offered for hughes; if anything. IMO unless Vancouver was dead on a center, flyers could have beat that package.
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ParticipantBill based on what you know did the flyers offer Vancouver MM as part of any package. Thanks
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