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nah called facts. just look at tocchets coaching record.
flyers being so bad for so long they get excited at the wind blowing, I guess.
how those 4 players making out since that outlier year?
.621 hockey propped up b shootout wins. brick by brick
Bad takes are not facts. Hahahaha. Look at VAN’s record without Tocchet, it’s .403! Look at the .621 win pct with him here. That record is “propped up” by the rules of the game during the regular season. Same rules for everybody, only two teams in the entire east have better records. Those are actual facts.
what was tocchet record in his last season in vancouver? before he quit.
looks like another coach of year award for the below .500 career of one rick tocchet. one more than bill barber.
it is propped up. cant wait until april.
called an outlier.
Tocchet hasn’t limited Dvorak or Zegras, wasn’t limiting Foerster and hasn’t limited a team that is playing .621 hockey. It’s called blogger bullshit.
nah called facts. just look at tocchets coaching record.
flyers being so bad for so long they get excited at the wind blowing, I guess.
how those 4 players making out since that outlier year?
.621 hockey propped up b shootout wins. brick by brick
Tocchet has only won one playoff series as a bench boss across nine seasons (excluding this one): with the Vancouver Canucks in 2024. That team, mind you, had a 103-point center, an 89-point center, a Norris Trophy-winning defenseman, and a Vezina Trophy finalist between the pipes. There’s an argument to be made that his system limits ceilings.
I understand a lot of people want to write about hockey but if Tocchet’s systems limit ceilings, how did all that happen in Vancouver?
called an outlier.
what’s interesting to me is the 3 players responsible for the season so far are external players. is that a good thing? not seeing much progression from the internal players from last year.
MM will be traded. I have no doubt at all. Whether the deadline (as part of a hughes deal) or the summer is the question to me.
God forbid they sell high on Dvorak and get a 1st.
what kind of deal do you give dvorak? he is having a career year. always been a low to mid 30 guy.
Dvorak also never had a linemate like Zegras, which is a lot of that. So, GMs are going to figure he’s a .5 PPG guy at best and does the faceoffs and D things well for THEIR team. That does have real value. You also have to figure Coots will sag out of the top 9 eventually. Jett can’t be counted on as Top 9 next year and Nesbitt is a ways away. Certainly, I’m offering 3 years at the same price, maybe a bit more. He could also be traded for future assets if the Flyers fall apart, which looks unlikely for now. I’m terrible at projecting contracts though.
With the shortage of centers league wide why would he want that deal? Would be wise to test the market as his last pay day. There should be no rush at all to re-sign him.
Personally, I hope they do re-sign him and overpay.The plan all along was to re-sign him when he signed his current deal.
Christian Dvorak . . . does a lot of things well on both sides of the puck and he’s developed pretty strong chemistry with Zegras in particular.
Emil Andrae had a rough night with the puck on his stick.
The Flyers either over-passed or missed the net on some of their better scoring chances.Dvorak has been a real revelation. They should try to reup him. He does so many things well that you don’t expect a younger developing player to do well that I think he’s a must re-sign.
Andrea also let Vegas step inside him to the mid-ice lane and make plays at the net a couple times in the 1st. Cost them the first goal. On the other hand, Theodore and McNabb had tough nights and were both -2. Which one of them left Zegras wide open for his goal? I’ve seen them play a lot better.
The over-passing has been an intermittent issue. Saw Tippett pass on a prime scoring chance and Taco mentioned Sanheim did the same thing.
he isnt a young developing player. he will be 30 years old.
Christian Dvorak . . . does a lot of things well on both sides of the puck and he’s developed pretty strong chemistry with Zegras in particular.
Emil Andrae had a rough night with the puck on his stick.
The Flyers either over-passed or missed the net on some of their better scoring chances.Dvorak has been a real revelation. They should try to reup him. He does so many things well that you don’t expect a younger developing player to do well that I think he’s a must re-sign.
Andrea also let Vegas step inside him to the mid-ice lane and make plays at the net a couple times in the 1st. Cost them the first goal. On the other hand, Theodore and McNabb had tough nights and were both -2. Which one of them left Zegras wide open for his goal? I’ve seen them play a lot better.
The over-passing has been an intermittent issue. Saw Tippett pass on a prime scoring chance and Taco mentioned Sanheim did the same thing.
what kind of deal do you give dvorak? he is having a career year. always been a low to mid 30 guy.
Dvorak signed 1 yr @ 5.4 million. With the cap rising, I would assume his agent has little interest in lowering that cap with a multi year extension. Considering the lack of center depth in the free agent market, pretty certain Dvorak will be coveted. I agree probably trying to get at minimum a 3 year deal considering his age. This would be an awful decision by the organization unless they trade Cates to improve the roster, which I doubt is going to happen.[/quote]he wants to play for tocchet. you think it is a coincidence he took #22……..
– Whoever is the best skating coach in the NHL or wherever, they need to hire him/she asap to work with MM. whoever the current guy is doesn’t seem to be helping much.
– Flyers in the cat birds seat. They should be the favorite coming out of the east. They have an arsenal of assets to use to make moves to strengthen the team. That doesn’t even include getting a legit top 4 dman in RR back in a week or the likely addition of martone in April.
– What will danny boy do to get the “boys” some extra help that they have earned. Brayden Schenn (NMC) perhaps? A Tyler Myers (NMC)? Brady Skjei (NMC)? Would they go for it with a ROR trade? Stay tuned flyer fans.
As this season progresses, I hope Briere does not pay Dvorak for a career year. Great job by Dvorak taking advantage of his opportunity this season. His career best is 38 points and he turns 30 in February. Dvorak is going to want a multi year deal for his next contract. It would make zero sense to sign an over 30 year old center to a multi year when there already is an over 30 year old center with multiple years left on his contract. Considering this current team is not a real Cup threat, stocking up on over 30 year old center seems like bad business.
4 years for 18-20 million. done deal. book it.
– Will they announce the Dvorak ext in January or wait?
– Clear to anyone except the coach that ND should never play again unless an emergency.
– Imagine playing MM the same number of minutes as Abols and GH.
– Will MM be traded at the deadline or summer?
– Where is hunter macdonald? Man, what a fall from grace. Ginning is no longer in the picture to the surprise of no one.
Here is a list of the dman the flyers have drafted since 2018. Is anyone impressed?
York
Atttard
Millman
Ginning
St Ivany
Wyatt wylie
Andrae
Brian Zanetti
Ty Murhchison
Hunter mac
Bonk
Carter Sotheran
Matteo Mann
Spencer gill
Austin Moline
Carter Amico – playing less than 7 minutes a game. Should have 100% played junior hockey this year.
Luke VlooswykVancouver is a shit franchise like the flyers. So far from contending. If you trade hughes you take the best package regardless of position.
Hughes should get a haul by a competent GM if he is traded by the deadline. 2 playoff runs can easily get a contending team over the hump. If a team is close, they may have no problem overpaying a little. As they should. Good GM’s find a way so the cap shouldn’t be any issue.
Hahaha! The Flyers are playing .611 hockey, VAN is playing .417 hockey WITH one of the 5 best Dmen in the league. How does that happen? I thought only teams with elite, difference-making needle movers could win in the NHL. The teams are nothing alike. You don’t what the best offer is until you’ve seen all the offers.
2 shit franchises. that is 100% fact. get back to me when the flyers win anything of substance.
really? no shit holmes. whatever it is you don’t limit yourself to accepting a dman and center (like you said). if that isn’t the best package.
Vancouver is a shit franchise like the flyers. So far from contending. If you trade hughes you take the best package regardless of position.
Hughes should get a haul by a competent GM if he is traded by the deadline. 2 playoff runs can easily get a contending team over the hump. If a team is close, they may have no problem overpaying a little. As they should. Good GM’s find a way so the cap shouldn’t be any issue.
Sharks have been rebuilding for what, two and a half years? Man they’re loaded with young talent but you need that coveted first overall pick in a draft that has top young center in it. I looked at the top ten in NHL scoring this morning and five of the top ten players are first overall picks, one is second overall and another is third overall. Sharks are gonna be an absolute wagon in a few years once these kids mature and they surround them with a good complimentary group of players.
yeah, but they don’t have the culture the flyers have.
You really can’t make this stuff up. Crest and culture are the way to build a winner. This is the most out of touch franchise in all of sports. Obe that includes the jets, browns, raiders, pirates, and others
The organization just might wanna think about continuing to acquire talent through the draft, that might be more important. That being said, there’s nothing wrong with your coach wanting your players to be proud of the crest they’re representing. I would think every team wants that from their players.
flyers love fans like you. you eat that culture shit up.
after all these years drafting they still can’t ice a good 4th line.
