Bill Meltzer — Draft Lottery: Flyers Fall to 6th Pick of 2025 Draft

Well that throws Martone and Frondell out the window.

*puke* of course a trash franchise like the islanders gets 1st

Well, the annual porking of the ping ball balls was right on schedule. This team can’t catch a break it seems. For those who watched, the Flyers were 1 number away from winning the lottery. In other draft years this might have stung more, but given this is a down draft, its not the end of the world. I was hoping the Flyers would trade this pick anyway for a younger, established player, but given where they ended up at the 6th pick, perhaps the value isn’t there to do so. At least we can’t say the Flyers didn’t try to tank for a top pick.

Athletic Mock Draft
Isles – Schaeffer
Sharks – Misa
Hawks – Martone
Utah – Desnoyers
Preds – Hagens
Flyers – Frondell
Broons – O’Brien
Kraken – Mrkta
Sabres – Martin
Ducks – McQueen
Pens – Smith
Rags – Nesbitt
Wings – Eklund
Jackets – Aitcheson
Canucks -Carbonneau
Habs – Bear

Briere views Hagans as that franchise center. He has for 2 years now. My belief is he will try to move up to get acquire him. Will other teams be interested? Will he pay the price. Find out in 6 weeks.

@jd50 the flyers did not try to tank for a top pick. comical you actually believe that; actually it isn’t. They lucked into the pick.

Button apparently has Brady Martin to the flyers with the 6th pick.

my prediction is whoever the flyers pick, people will whine about it

I haven’t paid much attention to Martin until Button said something. And now, looking him up, it makes sense.

Brady Martin Scouting Report

“Strengths
Hard worker on both sides of the puck
Physicality
Vision with and without the puck, as well as defensively
Energizer on the ice
Shot is near NHL-level in the eyes of many”

Another two way guy, hard worker, 200 foot game, blah blah blah

Because Flyers.

Buttons Mock Draft

I’m not as concerned with Briere being enamorwd with Brady Martin. Luchanko was very young for his draft and tested pretty much at top of his class at the combine. Martin is already 18, and appears to be more shooter then a passer at center.

If O’Brien tests well at the combine, he would be the prospect I see Briere could really value.

By the slim chance Martone slips, would be extremely tough to bypass for whatever center is still on thw board.

At the end of the day (no matter where they pick) it comes down to Briere and his “team” making the correct pick.

They can’t afford to not hit a grand slam at this point. They just can’t. You then ask yourself do you have faith/confidence in this group to hit said grand slam.

They hit a grand slam with Michkov, so they get that on the plus side, it remains to be seen what happens with Luchanko.

While Michkov IMO was a no brainer/no thought pick, I really thought there was a chance they would pick Ryan Leonard.

I really have no idea how they think,

@MB still need to hit big time with this pick as they really have no margin for error.

jett does not impress me in terms of him being the answer to any top 6 center solution. Not saying he wont be a good player. just dont see that much offensive upside.

@MB still need to hit big time with this pick as they really have no margin for error.

jett does not impress me in terms of him being the answer to any top 6 center solution. Not saying he wont be a good player. just dont see that much offensive upside.

Yeah, I really hope they go with best available and if they take a home run swing it had better be worth it. Not pick some kid because he is a “Flyers type player”

Drafting Flyers type players has gotten them nowhere for 50 years.

Hopefully Hagens or Frondell drop to 6. And if not, I say take a swing on McQueen. Then take another swing on Ryabkin if he is there in the 20’s.

They need elite talent more than anything.

“But like I said, when you’re not spending $12 million on a player, or even two like Edmonton does… Colorado has three or four high-end guys. We’re not going to be built that way. So depth will be important to us.”

Well, seeing how Colorado tried to trade talent for depth, and seeing what Rantanen is doing for Dallas, it would seem to me that the more talent at the top of the lineup, the better chance you have to win.

Well, seeing how Colorado tried to trade talent for depth, and seeing what Rantanen is doing for Dallas, it would seem to me that the more talent at the top of the lineup, the better chance you have to win.

Rantanen is killing it. Wonder if someone loses their job over that trade.

Flyers are stuck in their winning ways. They need a total reset on how they approach the game.

Wheeler now has the Flyers taking Martin at 6 in his mock. There always seems to be some player who rises up the ranks in the last weeks leading up to the draft.

Sennecke, Gauthier, and now Martin seems to be the next top 5 prospect out of no where. I do wonder if the interest in Martin is related to maybe circling back on Rossi. His minutes were reduced in the playoffs, and Guerin recent comments suggest lukewarm interest at best re signing Rossi. Don’t get me wrong, I would rather even draft Eklund over Martin. If Briere acquires a smaller, skilled forward thru a trade and signs him long term, the interest to get physical forwards may increase. Pure speculation on my part.

Quenneville to Anaheim.

I would be thrilled if Frondell fell to the Flyers. Hagens, Frondell, or Martone are my preferred choices foe the Flyers.

I would be thrilled if Frondell fell to the Flyers. Hagens, Frondell, or Martone are my preferred choices foe the Flyers.

Realistically he would be my #1 choice out of the players that may be available at #6

Good for Joel, hope he can turn that team around.

I have this feeling both Martone and Martin will be gone by 6. After Schaefer, no presumed franchise Dmen available. None of the center prospects are considered bona fide #1 centers. Teams value wingers with size who have skill. Put a huge value on finding the next Tkachuk or Knies.

Put a huge value on finding the next Tkachuk or Knies.

what orginization will value that the most……

Briere thinks Hagans is that franchise center. That is why I think they will try very hard to move up a few spots. Maybe Bill can chime in on what he knows on what Briere thinks of him.

The only consensus top 6 prospect who is viewed to definitely stay at center in the pros is Desnoyers from what I have read. Ultimately, other prospects could also play center. Misa, Frondell and Hagens could just as easily be moved to wing. Certainly, it is subjective and scouting depts will differ.

Bill Any thoughts on Lynden Lakovic? Will he be around with the Avs pick

I think it is with the Avs or Oilers pick that the Flyers SHOULD take a home run swing on a high risk high reward player like Ryabkin. THoughts on whether he will be there Bill? And do you also think he may slip as low as the Flyers first 2nd round pick?

I hear about commitment and character issues but you can’t deny the skills. Maybe they take a shot and Michkov’s work ethic rubs off on him.

With apologies to the late Mitch Hedberg: Goalie drafting is like a baked potato in a conventional oven. Draft one even if you don’t really want it right now. By time it’s ready, who knows?

Classic Mitch.

With apologies to the late Mitch Hedberg: Goalie drafting is like a baked potato in a conventional oven. Draft one even if you don’t really want it right now. By time it’s ready, who knows?

No issue taking a goalie later. Do you really want to take one with the late 1st or early 2nd? Now if that is who they have as the BPA then so be it.

If the Oilers end up winning it or losing in the cup finals that trade last year will have backfired (same pick in a lesser draft). Never ever seen a trade in all of sports where you trade a current first for a future first and get nothing back.

our late 1st round picks will probably determine who we get at 6th. If we can’t get a C at 6 then we have to take Cs in the late first and home one is a home run

Seems the Brady Martin rush has died down, I am starting to see most mocks take Desnoyers to the Flyers. I think I will be ok with that even if Frondell is still on the board. If Hagens is still there I think he needs to be the pick. You need skill and talent and I think Hagens has it in spades.

My order of preference depending on who is there at 6.

Hagens
Desnoyers
Frondell
Martin
O’Brien

What agency represents hagens….

if they draft a center with the 6th will they rush that player into the lineup for 25/26? Could potentially have that player plus the Jett with ex selke and Cates. Then again they may add a center via trade for free agency.

Can the Jett play in the ahl next season or still juniors or nhl only?

really want to see them make a play for mcqueen with the abundance of other assets they have at their disposal.

I do think O’Brien is in play @ 6. Fits the profile of how the Flyers have been drafting. He is a younger prospect, which in theory there is more runway to grow. If he tests well at the combine, will not be surprised at all if he is the pick @ 6.

With Tocchet being named HC, I believe Frondell will be high up on their draft board. Desoyners and Martone probably will be higher then Hagens. If they want forwards who play more north/south, Hagens is probably the least likely to fit that mold.

With Tocchet being named HC, I believe Frondell will be high up on their draft board. Desoyners and Martone probably will be higher then Hagens. If they want forwards who play more north/south, Hagens is probably the least likely to fit that mold.

Tocchet won’t be here in 3 years when those guys are ready to take off. his hire should have no bearing on who they take.

Tocchet won’t be here in 3 years when those guys are ready to take off. his hire should have no bearing on who they take

Well considering Tocchet got 5 years and 5 million/yr, I think it is fair to assume Tocchet will have his input heard on the prospect rankings by the Flyers. Briere will have final say on who gets drafted. Also, the Tocchet hire represents a style of play and profile of player the organization wants to acquire. Again, Tocchet will have influence indirectly on the direction of the organization.

doesnt matter how many years he got , look at the coaching lifespan. especially for the flyers. tocchet has no idea about these junior players and his opinion shouldn’t matter where it concerns the draft.

part of me is 100% happy they made this hire. can watch them spin their wheels for the next 5 years. at least the draft and free agency will be fun as they will do everything in their power to add players to win “now”. comcast loves wasting money on coaches with nothing to show for it.