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  • #77782
    MountyB
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    II would imagine the Flyers knew that the Carlsson offer sheet, win or lose, was going to drive up the asking price of Zegras and Drysdale. Couple that with the Byram deal, that probably helped Drysdale even more.

    Do you think the Flyers get either or both under 10 million AAV or has that ship sailed?

    I would walk away from a Drysdale award of 10M or higher. Don’t love 10M for Zegras but can live with it.

    #77781
    Bill Meltzer
    Keymaster

    The cap inflation is everywhere, not just because of the Carlsson offer sheet. That said, the OS is definitely a factor across the league. They made a first-time RFA the highest-paid player in the NHL (for now).

    #77758
    MBFlyerfan1
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    II would imagine the Flyers knew that the Carlsson offer sheet, win or lose, was going to drive up the asking price of Zegras and Drysdale. Couple that with the Byram deal, that probably helped Drysdale even more.

    Do you think the Flyers get either or both under 10 million AAV or has that ship sailed?

    #77708
    FlyerFrank
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    Zegras is good but shouldn’t get what Aho does even with cap inflation.

    Oh no, that’s not the suggestion. Aho is clearly better. The tricky part, as I see it with Zegras, is he’s a solid 7.5% of the cap guy as he is today, but still has an upside. A solid PPG guy is probably a 10+% of the cap guy. He’s somewhere in the middle. I think he tops out as a .9 guy give or take. Which does put him in a pretty elite grouping.

    Some PPG averages for 25 YO and on for comparison:

    Aho: 0.997
    Larkin: 0.944
    Konecny: 0.925
    Hischier: 0.886

    #77706
    Skip Zahora
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    Zegras is good but shouldn’t get what Aho does even with cap inflation.

    For example, Carolina’s Sebastian Aho carries a $9.75 AAV on his current deal (which started in 2024-25).

    Aho has been a consistent PPG guy for pretty well his entire career.

    AHO
    Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS PPG
    2016-17 19 CAR NHL RW 82 24 25 49 0.598
    2017-18 20 CAR NHL RW 78 29 36 65 0.833
    2018-19 21 CAR NHL C 82 30 53 83 1.012
    2019-20 22 CAR NHL F 68 38 28 66 0.971
    2020-21 23 CAR NHL F 56 24 33 57 1.018
    2021-22 24 CAR NHL F 79 37 44 81 1.025
    445 182 219 401 0.901

    2022-23 25 CAR NHL F 75 36 31 67 0.893
    2023-24 26 CAR NHL F 78 36 53 89 1.141
    2024-25 27 CAR NHL F 79 29 45 74 0.937
    2025-26 28 CAR NHL F 79 27 53 80 1.013
    311 128 182 310 0.997

    Zegras has been a consistent .8 PPG guy for the three years he’s been healthy. He still has a nice upside though, just heading into his 25 YO season when top players tend to find higher levels of production from 25 on.

    ZEGRAS
    Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS PPG
    2020-21 19 ANA NHL C 24 3 10 13 0.542
    2021-22 20 ANA NHL C 75 23 38 61 0.813
    2022-23 21 ANA NHL C 81 23 42 65 0.802
    2023-24 22 ANA NHL C 31 6 9 15 0.484
    2024-25 23 ANA NHL C 57 12 20 32 0.561
    2025-26 24 PHI NHL C 81 26 41 67 0.827
    349 93 160 253 0.725

    #77705
    Snipz
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    I’d be fine with a Risto extension.

    #77685
    FlyerFrank
    Participant

    For example, Carolina’s Sebastian Aho carries a $9.75 AAV on his current deal (which started in 2024-25).

    Aho has been a consistent PPG guy for pretty well his entire career.

    AHO
    Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS PPG
    2016-17 19 CAR NHL RW 82 24 25 49 0.598
    2017-18 20 CAR NHL RW 78 29 36 65 0.833
    2018-19 21 CAR NHL C 82 30 53 83 1.012
    2019-20 22 CAR NHL F 68 38 28 66 0.971
    2020-21 23 CAR NHL F 56 24 33 57 1.018
    2021-22 24 CAR NHL F 79 37 44 81 1.025
    445 182 219 401 0.901

    2022-23 25 CAR NHL F 75 36 31 67 0.893
    2023-24 26 CAR NHL F 78 36 53 89 1.141
    2024-25 27 CAR NHL F 79 29 45 74 0.937
    2025-26 28 CAR NHL F 79 27 53 80 1.013
    311 128 182 310 0.997

    Zegras has been a consistent .8 PPG guy for the three years he’s been healthy. He still has a nice upside though, just heading into his 25 YO season when top players tend to find higher levels of production from 25 on.

    ZEGRAS
    Season Age Team Lg Pos GP G A PTS PPG
    2020-21 19 ANA NHL C 24 3 10 13 0.542
    2021-22 20 ANA NHL C 75 23 38 61 0.813
    2022-23 21 ANA NHL C 81 23 42 65 0.802
    2023-24 22 ANA NHL C 31 6 9 15 0.484
    2024-25 23 ANA NHL C 57 12 20 32 0.561
    2025-26 24 PHI NHL C 81 26 41 67 0.827
    349 93 160 253 0.725

    #77678
    Bill Meltzer
    Keymaster

    The Philadelphia Flyers have roughly one week to work out new contracts with Jamie Drysdale and Trevor Zegras before their respective arbitration hearings.

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