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May 20, 2025 at 5:31 pm #5938
Unholy_Goalie
Participantwhere’s the like button?🤔
can we say fuck?👊🏿
Abso-fucking-lutely
May 20, 2025 at 6:00 pm #5939skalapy
Participanti wouldn’t hold my breath for aa👍
he’s hb for life and he still has a few alts left🤦🏿♂️
lmfaooooooooo 🤣
May 20, 2025 at 6:20 pm #5944Lawsie
Participant@Uggie ….it’d be nice to keep both 88 and 16 but the math ain’t mathing in their favour. IF they give Knies and Marner their raises they’d only have about $8M to sign a pair of second liners to play with 88 ….and that’s after cutting Reaves, Kampf and Jarnkrok’s $$ (fingers crossed) ….and that assumes they spend no money on the bottom 6.
They need a couple of Alpha’s in the mix to help all these elites get over the hump.
May 20, 2025 at 6:43 pm #5950Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantIt’d be nice to keep both 88 and 16 but the math ain’t mathing in their favour. IF they give Knies and Marner their raises they’d only have about $8M to sign a pair of second liners to play with 88 ….and that’s after cutting Reaves, Kampf and Jarnkrok’s $$ (fingers crossed) ….and that assumes they spend no money on the bottom 6.
They need a couple of Alpha’s in the mix to help all these elites get over the hump.
The math works perfectly fine if they make the correct moves.
Knies needs to take a bridge contract. He’s been good but hasn’t proven anything to warrant buying his UFA years at a premium price. Keeping his deal to 3-4 years keeps his cap hit low enough and allows him to hit UFA status faster. We can deal with his next contract when the cap is even higher.
These stories that Marner turned down 13-14 AAV are bullshit. He would take 12-13 AAV. Everybody assumes he is being greedy and wants maximum money. Nobody is considering that maybe there are some rotten apples on this team. The “passengers” that Matthews spoke of is who Marner doesn’t want to play with anymore. That could include all the names we expect like Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves, Holmberg etc. These are the guys scoring ZERO goals in the bottom-six but taking up cap space and providing nothing in playoff value.
Next to go, Rielly. Vancouver or Seattle could be a landing spot for him and his NMC. The “core” includes the longest serving player. It sucks trying to move a guy at his lowest value but if they can clear his salary and bring back even just a secondary player or depth D, they’d be coming out ahead. They can replace him with a UFA easily.
Next, Tavares has to go. Even at 5 AAV, he’s not worth it anymore. At his age, he’s slow and defensively a net negative. I’d take him at a ridiculous price like less than 5 AAV but he can’t be the 2nd line center anymore. He simply can’t be trusted to play top-six minutes without being caved in defensively. Maybe he could be considered a 2LW if he has a really good two-way center. But his best days are behind him for what we need him to do in the playoffs.
This team doesn’t get better by losing it’s #1 point producer for nothing. Nobody can name the players that want to come to Toronto, on a discount, to provide a bigger impact.
May 20, 2025 at 7:16 pm #5956dmnted
Participantwelcome to the Banned Crue Skalapy.
got my self 90 days in the holeMay 20, 2025 at 7:26 pm #5961PDO Speedwagon
ParticipantStamkos is a good comparable for Tavares. Both had solid productive seasons in their contract years. Briesbois lowballed Stamkos because he knew Stamkos was in decline. Stamkos left to chase money and ended up in Nashville without Kucherov to feed him delicious Royal Road passes on the power play. Look at what happened. His production plummeted. He went on a brief heater towards the end of the season that made his numbers look slightly less terrible, but for most of the year he was caved in and provided almost nothing.
Tavares is in a similar spot. He no longer drives play and needs elite linemates to prop him up. He’s pretty much a 2W or 3W at this point in his career. If Tavares will stay for $3-5m on term less than 3 years, then keep him. Put him on the wing and use him on special teams.
Marner is a fucking gone pecan. May as well start dream-spending that cap space now because he’s on the first plane out of Toronto. Leafs aint getting back squat either – just to add insult to injury. No sign and trade. I hope I’m wrong.
Everyone stop with talk about Reilly and Benn – those guys are also on the wrong side of the aging curve. Reilly and Benn of 5-10 years ago, hell yeah. Now, not so much. Maybe grab Poon Jenner cheap to fill the dinosaur sandpaper grit snot role.
SHOUT OUT to that man mountain of neck meat that showed up – SKALAPY!
May 20, 2025 at 7:48 pm #5962Azure
ParticipantI think Tavares is gonna sign for a low number.
Also how do you quote here?
May 20, 2025 at 7:49 pm #5963PrinceLH
ParticipantThe band is almost back together. HHS Gain is HB’s loss. It’s like watching a suicide in real time happening over there. The discussions in here are a breath of fresh air, without the nonsense and harping going on. It’s actually fun again. Slowly, but surely, all of the best Bloggers from over there are now coming here. A few more tweaks, and this site will be ready to soar. Just have to get some of the smaller market threads to come over. Hablanders haven’t migrated as fast as I’d like to have seen quite yet. It’s only month 1 and all seems grand.
May 20, 2025 at 7:57 pm #5964skalapy
Participantwelcome to the Banned Crue Skalapy.
got my self 90 days in the holeSHOUT OUT to that man mountain of neck meat that showed up – SKALAPY!
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Cush n dozzer would never ban me for my timeless hb idiom🤦🏿♂️😭May 20, 2025 at 8:01 pm #5966PrinceLH
Participant🥰
Cush n dozzer would never ban me for my timeless hb idiom🤦🏿♂️😭Welcome to your new home. The key is under the Mitch Marner doormat, whenever you want to come in.
May 20, 2025 at 8:03 pm #5967Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantI think Tavares is gonna sign for a low number.
Tavares fucking sucks.
Also how do you quote here?
Copy, paste, select all, B-Quote.
May 20, 2025 at 8:07 pm #5968skalapy
ParticipantWelcome to your new home. The key is under the Mitch Marner doormat, whenever you want to come in.
fuck greedy pencil neck bitch, his big hat and the horse he rode in on 🤦♂️
what a fucking joke 🤦🏿♂️
edit: nice alliteration 👍
May 20, 2025 at 9:26 pm #5974WHIPPER
ParticipantExactly 6 weeks till July 1st, then a lot of our questions will be answered. Personally, I think Marner walks and JT signs a really team-friendy deal. Tre brings in one forward that has that dog in him to hopefully light a fire under these soft-ass bitches.
Oh, and Carolina is finding out that there are levels to this. I’d be surprised if they got it to game 6.
May 20, 2025 at 11:23 pm #5981Unholy_Goalie
ParticipantExactly 6 weeks till July 1st, then a lot of our questions will be answered. Personally, I think Marner walks and JT signs a really team-friendy deal. Tre brings in one forward that has that dog in him to hopefully light a fire under these soft-ass bitches.
Oh, and Carolina is finding out that there are levels to this. I’d be surprised if they got it to game 6.
People, in general, keep saying Marner is going to walk and new guys will be coming in. But nobody ever mentions what new guys will be coming in or why they will want to come in or at what price they will come in at. Please, somebody, anybody, answer these questions. Who do the Leafs sign that actually wants to play in Toronto for 13 million and will give us more than what we already have with Marner? Name them. Price them. Explain why they would even dream of playing here.
Also, the logic that Tavares, should return, at a reduced price, makes no sense. If Marner is deemed so bad in Game 5, 6 (even though he helped win it) and 7 that he should be let go for nothing how is Tavares perfectly fine to stay as long as he comes at half the price? Sorry guys but he could play for 5 million, if he disappears, he’s useless. Additionally, if he’s paid and plays in the top-six but is constantly on the ice for goals against, stuck in his own zone more than half the time, why do we want him to return? To get older? To get slower? To be even worse?
Carolina could get swept. Then people might realize how good Florida really is and how close the Leafs actually were to the 3rd round and perhaps beyond.
May 20, 2025 at 11:39 pm #5983Aetherial
Participant11 different Florida players on the boxscore, Anderten in Leafs form with 5 goals on 20 shots…
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