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Ultimately, replacing Marner with a Bennett doesn’t really solve for that – it probably makes you even slower with the puck, but more physical.
Bennett scored a career high 51 points last season. And also -15. I could see the argument for adding Bennett. But to replace Marner? That’s a crackhead idea. I’m not saying that’s what you are suggesting but there’s way too many people who seem to think: Marner out, Bennett in, Cup parade.
Not only would he be stupid to leave Florida (more money, less pressure, better weather, proven successful team) but he’s going to get the biggest contract of his career and most of it will be paying him for years after 30. He fits in Florida but his next contract will also be an anchor sooner rather than later.
They need to upgrade the bottom-6 and find a way to improve their puck speed in the top-6. -monkeypunk
You are 100% correct with this statement.
What is the best possible advanced stats 3rd line (LW | C | RW) collection of current UFAs you can find for 12-15 AAV or less?
You cannot possibly be serious. Florida didn’t win the division because Barkov and Tkachuk were injured, Ekblad was suspended for 1/4 of the season, and, quite frankly, they probably coasted for most of the season knowing they could just turn it on at any point in the playoffs.
The Leafs didn’t choke, Florida just pounded them into oblivion like they did to Tampa, like they’re doing to Carolina, and like they’ll do to whoever comes out of the West.
The Leafs may have been fortunate to win the division but they also had Matthews at 50% for most of the season (when he played) and their own list of injuries, particularly in net. You can debate back and forth if the Leafs could win the division if all things were equal. But in the playoffs, the Leafs made it to Game 7. That you can’t debate.
They started the series with a 2-0 lead. Took Game 3 to OT and could have easily been up 3-0. Then lost in 7. That’s a bit of a choke considering how strong they started and how they fell off towards the end. That being said, they still shut out Florida, in Florida, in Game 6 to survive. Game 5 and Game 7 were a major disappointment, of that there is no doubt, but they didn’t get blown out every game in the series like Carolina is right now. The Leafs had early success, Florida made adjustments and the Leafs didn’t have the depth to counter punch once their top stars got figured out. Florida had the depth even though most of their top guys were also under control (Tkachuk 0 goals in 7 games, for example).
That does not scream “major changes”.
It does when your hero has given every indication that he wants to play elsewhere.
I am not sure why this is such a hard thing for you to grasp.. Even if the Leafs offered 8 X $14. According to Friedman or Dregger he already turned down 8 x $13.5 in season.
It does when your hero has given every indication that he wants to play elsewhere.
I am not sure why this is such a hard thing for you to grasp.. Even if the Leafs offered 8 X $14. According to Friedman or Dregger he already turned down 8 x $13.5 in season.
Must be why he accepted the trade to Carolina to play on a better team, make more money after taxes and leave Toronto. Oh wait…he didn’t…
Ever stop to think for a second that the guys in the media are either useful idiots or total liars? Or, get paid by the company that owns the team and therefore has a vested interest in making Marner look as bad as possible to save face for the company because they mismanaged the team so badly they have to make the players seem like bad guys so they can continue to make money without providing results?
Nah, you probably didn’t.
Nobody knows what any real offer or demand actually looked like and how or what was negotiated except management and his agent.
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You cannot possibly be serious. Florida didn’t win the division because Barkov and Tkachuk were injured, Ekblad was suspended for 1/4 of the season, and, quite frankly, they probably coasted for most of the season knowing they could just turn it on at any point in the playoffs.The Leafs didn’t choke, Florida just pounded them into oblivion like they did to Tampa, like they’re doing to Carolina, and like they’ll do to whoever comes out of the West.
I know its an excuse leafers like to use…”oh lord, florida oh so tough….such a superpower”. Yes, great team. The Leafs had a 2- 0 series and a 3-1 lead in the 3rd game, the series went 7 games
So no, they didnt pound the leafs into oblivion…..not even close. Had they “pounded the leafs into oblivion”, the series would have been over in 4 games….if anything, they are pounding the canes into oblivion…but the canes have a history of being swept in the 3rd round. The leaf CHOKED. Its that simple. Ya sure they choked against a great team…but they had a 2-0 series lead and 3-1 lead in the 3rd game.
They choked.
AgainThe series was not as close as it seemed. Bobrovsky was hot trash in games 1 and 2. If he’s average even, those games are split.
The series was not as close as it seemed. Bobrovsky was hot trash in games 1 and 2. If he’s average even, those games are split.
The Panthers took more shot attempts, more shots on goal, more chances, more possession, more goals etc. They brought their best, did all that stuff but they still needed 7 games to beat the Leafs.
Florida plays an exceptional high pressure game. But Bob is turning 37 next year. He won’t be Bob for much longer. If the Leafs keep this team together, drop the passengers (Tavares, Rielly, Kampf and Jarnkrok), replace them with needle movers (even just a 5-10% improvement overall), they can beat the Panthers and go further than they have ever gone before.
It’s going to be difficult to move Rielly.
1st you need him to waive in NMC
2nd you need to find a team that can take on his entire salary with no retention.
3rd get ready for a crappy return ..Kampf has a 10 team no trade clause which can be work with. lucky to get a 3rd round pick for him
Jarnkrok I’d hang on to him. he’s got 1 more year before he’s a UFA. Could be a trade dead line to move him out
Reaves not sure to buy him out or just send him to the minor but he should be done as Leafs.
Robertson is most likely gone and I’d try to move Holmberg
👊🏾¯\(°_o)/¯It’s going to be difficult to move Rielly.
I disagree. It’s a challenge but not any more difficult than deals we’ve seen in the past. Just need to get everybody on the same page and be creative. Let’s all remember, Karlsson got traded at a cap hit over 11 million. There’s always a buyer if the price is right.
1st you need him to waive in NMC
2nd you need to find a team that can take on his entire salary with no retention.
3rd get ready for a crappy return ..I think Rielly, at his best, gets you a 1st round pick, roster player and a top prospect. A guy who can skate and put up 60-70 points at 7.5 AAV would be a bargain. Obviously, he’s not at his best and his value will be nowhere near that. But the cap is going up 7 million dollars this year. That means almost his entire cap hit could be covered by the cap increase alone. The cap minimum is up to 70 million. There’s about to be a big increase in the amount of teams that will be looking to spend money just to reach the cap floor.
Now, that’s not to say Rielly will accept a trade to San Jose, although it’s close enough to BC that he might consider it if they weren’t a trash team, but there are a number of teams that geographically might work for him. Top of the list is Vancouver and Seattle. Possibly Utah because they’re closer to the West and not a bad team either.
In terms of salary, again, because you have so many teams out there looking just to reach the cap floor, you can never dismiss a team being a 3rd party to lower his cap hit. Meaning, Leafs trade Rielly to San Jose (or Columbus), they retain 2-3 million, take a 3rd round pick, then Rielly lands in Vancouver for 4.5 – 5.5 million. Leafs get a 3rd liner and/or a depth D to fill Rielly’s spot at half the cost.
A cap floor team increases it’s cap hit without paying real dollars and gets a draft pick. Vancouver gives up a mid draft pick and a 3rd liner for a player who could replace Hughes when he eventually wants to be moved out. The Leafs get cap relief and a gritty 3rd liner.
Everybody wins.
Kampf has a 10 team no trade clause which can be work with. lucky to get a 3rd round pick for him
Kampf absolutely sucks for what the Leafs need but he’s another guy who would fit on a team somewhere just looking to reach the cap floor and add a 4th liner. Future considerations would be fine.
Jarnkrok I’d hang on to him. he’s got 1 more year before he’s a UFA. Could be a trade dead line to move him out
Jarnkrok is a playoff failure. I think a bubble team would take him but he absolutely sucks for the Leafs. Could easily see him going to a team like Columbus and being able to score 15-20 again but he’s not right for the Leafs.
Reaves not sure to buy him out or just send him to the minor but he should be done as Leafs.
His contract is allegedly very easy to bury. He’s finished. Maybe somebody takes him for a 7th round pick but I don’t think the Leafs need to worry about his contract very much anymore.
Robertson is most likely gone and I’d try to move Holmberg
Would gladly trade both of them as additions to any deal that helps the Leafs acquire more guys like McBain, Pospisil etc.
Apparently Shanahan nixed the below deal of dubas’.
To Toronto:
Brandon Hagel
Marc-André Fleury (extended)To Chicago:
Matthew Knies (rights)
Petr Mrázek
2022 Toronto 1st (top 10 protected) (Rinzel)
2023 Toronto 1st (top 10 protected) (Cowan. Nadeau?Marner is walking out the door with no return on the asset.
Leafs are in a tough spot to try to get better. Not a great pool of free agents and few assets to deal.
And if you let Tavares walk….who is playing center on this team??
Marner is walking out the door with no return on the asset.
Not 100% that he’s leaving. That just seems to be the story for idiot fans with bloodlust and the media painting him as the bad guy to cover MLSE’s ass.
Leafs are in a tough spot to try to get better. Not a great pool of free agents and few assets to deal.
If they can reach a deal with Marner, the UFA pool can work in their benefit so long as they purge the roster of the passengers.
And if you let Tavares walk….who is playing center on this team??
It almost doesn’t matter because as long as whomever replaces Tavares isn’t a defensive blackhole, the Leafs will be better off without him.
I disagree. It’s a challenge but not any more difficult than deals we’ve seen in the past. Just need to get everybody on the same page and be creative. Let’s all remember, Karlsson got traded at a cap hit over 11 million. There’s always a buyer if the price is right.
yep👍
with all that dough he must have a good coke dealer that would make him pretty valuable to the canuckleheads lmfaoooo 👊🏿🤣
i read a spot on audition blog on the hb that i agree with very much👍
after seeing our laffs have the opposition’s will imposed upon them when the rubber has met the road over the last 58 years, i had never taken into consideration that they were actually lacking skilled skaters this whole time🤦🏿♂️
if they just had faster, more skilled skaters, they could just outrun and dangle these old timers into the ice like the globetrotters do to the generals🤦♂️
if they just had faster, more skilled skaters, they could just outrun and dangle these old timers into the ice like the globetrotters do to the generals. ~ Skalapy🤦♂️
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How Leafs supposed to improve without draft picks for trades?
To improve from within?
Letting Marner walk is bad, but keeping him for $14+ M is not great either.
I have no idea what magic the management has to pull out to improve this team.
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