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Frank Seravelli on Sportsnet this morning said the leafs have been gauging interest in marner with other teams since last summer. No team wanted to a trade unless it came with an extension. Apparently, leafs were looking for a deal they liked and then were going to approach marner. He also said that he has spoken with several players who have been in the “orbit” (his word) of the core 3 and in the “orbit” of other top players in the league and he was told that the core 3 just dont work hard enough, seem complacent and dont seem to want it as much as others. That seems to fly considering what we’ve seen the past several years. – Fake
This rings true. I have no idea whether it’s actually true or not, but it rings true. Why should they bust ass for a raise when they already got the raise just for showing up to camp?
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Ya, I find Seravelli pretty ‘dramatic’ so I think that’s likely more opinion then fact BUT, I agree …Leafs need an alpha or two in the mix.Even Florida has Barkov and Reinhart (people have doubted both have “heart” over their careers) but they surround them with Bennett and Tkachuck types.
Gotta have the right mix.
Poor Tree had about 6 weeks on the job before Marner’s NMC kicked in so this is a Dubas reality. Although Tree did lock in Nylander when, in theory, he could have moved on from him instead. I know 88 had a very productive year …but remember how he played from October-January last season? He hounded the puck every shift …he was arguably the best player in the NHL for long stretches of time …we haven’t seen that since he autographed that very expensive paperwork.
Change is needed.
I agree he is dramatic at times, but I have no doubt the leafs were gauging interest in MArner and I have no doubt our core 3 arent as driven as other stars around the league.
I don’t like it either, but it’s a small price to pay not to listen to the wild conspiracy-laden political diatribes that hijack threads and go on for pages and pages and pages. Also the random bans for no reason. Site admin who doesn’t know how to use a spellchecker, less yet operate the admin interface of a 30-year old piece of forum abandonware.
The quote thing is a PITA, but I can live with it and I hope they fix it.
i havent seen much of that latley..but one poster seems to be here…so yeah.
Lawsie
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The Cap needs to get fixed.Rantanen’s 12M in Dallas equates to about $15.75 in Canada. Yes, RCA’s may soften the tax blow (although the player would have to take residency in the US when they retire, they’d have to park 50% of their income into the RCA during their career ….And, RCA’s are under legal attack by CRA right now) but if I’m a high earning player there’s so many reasons to head south.
Canadian kids/residents have it the worst from a tax perspective. Matthews, Knies ..can use US residency and bonuses to come out nicely but JT, MM ..can’t escape.
At smaller salaries ..no biggy. But at 10M+ the tax gap has become waayyyyyy too big a difference. After tax dollars probably creates more problems then it solves but surely they can move to a luxery tax or have some kind of flat tax discount (5%) or whatever.
Canadian teams, the Rangers, and some others are at a ~15% disadvantage on the Cap. Imagine these teams having even 5% ($5M) back in the pot. That’s another middle six forward or top 4 dman. Or reverse that, imagine Florida without the ability to add Jones and Marchand b/c they don’t have the cap space.
If you’re a Canadian than a $12M contract is $16.6m in Cdn funds.
13 mil for Marner or is money better spent signing Bennett say 8-9mil (I know crazy money) and one of these players
Tanner Jeannot
Pius Suter
Radek Faksa
Brandon Tanev
Yanni GourdeLeafs have to beef up the bottom 6..they cant hang with Florida at all
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ParticipantI don’t like it either, but it’s a small price to pay not to listen to the wild conspiracy-laden political diatribes that hijack threads and go on for pages and pages and pages. Also the random bans for no reason. Site admin who doesn’t know how to use a spellchecker, less yet operate the admin interface of a 30-year old piece of forum abandonware.
The quote thing is a PITA, but I can live with it and I hope they fix it.
It hasnt been that bad at the other site lately….and the person responsible for most of the conspiracy-laden political diatribe is now here as well….and already started.
As for the random bans…..dunno..never came across any myself…but I rarely go into non leafs blogs or call out EK in any blog.13 mil for Marner or is money better spent signing Bennett say 8-9mil (I know crazy money) and one of these players
Tanner Jeannot
Pius Suter
Radek Faksa
Brandon Tanev
Yanni GourdeLeafs have to beef up the bottom 6..they cant hang with Florida at all
I agree, but I think bennett cost closer to 10m per to get him to Toronto…on a 7 year deal
It may be wiser or more cap friendly to sign Nelson or Granlund or Duchene as a 2nd/3rd line center on a shorter cheaper deal and then try to sign TWO of the players you mentioned?
I think Tanev is must either way.
They will also need another 2nd/3rd line (maybe JT on the cheap) a top 6 winger (I mentioned P Kane a while ago) and a 4-6 dman.It hasnt been that bad at the other site lately….and the person responsible for most of the conspiracy-laden political diatribe is here as well….and already started.
As for the random bans…..dunno..never came across any myself…but I rarely go into non leafs blogs or call out EK in any blog. – FakeIt gives me no joy to criticize HB or Ek. It was the first place I met up online with other hockey fans and had meaningful discussions and a little fun. I think deep down Ek is a decent guy who is passionate about hockey. But, he’s in over his head trying to admin a busy site that barely runs on a rotting infrastructure of 30+ year old abandonware.
The aggressive ads and popup windows that force users to install adblockers to use the site is self-defeating. Nobody is seeing those ads, so they can’t generate revenue. Or, they see them, get frustrated by them and leave (and never return).
He let trolls hijack his forums and make a mockery of his moderators. Then refuses to take the most basic and easy steps to mitigate that.
It’s the Buffalo Sabres of hockey forums.
I agree, but I think bennett cost closer to 10m per to get him to Toronto…on a 7 year deal
It may be wiser or more cap friendly to sign Nelson or Granlund or Duchene as a 2nd/3rd line center on a shorter cheaper deal and then try to sign TWO of the players you mentioned?
I think Tanev is must either way.
They will also need another 2nd/3rd line (maybe JT on the cheap) a top 6 winger (I mentioned P Kane a while ago) and a 4-6 dman.10m is pretty crazy. his reg season is not in that realm, but his playoffs are worth it. but does he replicate that on another team..not likley.
They had 22 Mil in Marner/JT
Can you get Bennet, JT and Tanev for the same dollarsi have no interest in doing that much work to post
– SenstrollSenstroll is the HockeyHotStove version of Marner.
It hasnt been that bad at the other site lately….and the person responsible for most of the conspiracy-laden political diatribe is now here as well….and already started.
As for the random bans…..dunno..never came across any myself…but I rarely go into non leafs blogs or call out EK in any blog. – FakesieI got banned for replying to Ek in his thread – after Ek said that my comment was “a good point.”
And I reached out to Ek and Kevin Allan – neither had the courtesy to reply to me.
It looks, feels and smells like it is days away from disappearing.
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