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  • #7126
    PDO Speedwagon
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    It’s quite the accomplishment to put up a forum with modern software that somehow has less features than HB. LOL.

    I’m generally against signing geezers, but if Patches retires, I wouldn’t be adverse to taking a flyer on Toews or Kane if they’d sign for a small salary with a bunch of incentive bonuses. Toews feels like more of a risk.

    #7127
    senstrolltwo
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    You had Zezel sold at decent D.

    Wish that guy would smarten up and join us.

    not overly big, but gets the job done

    #7128
    WHIPPER
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    I’m generally against signing geezers, but if Patches retires, I wouldn’t be adverse to taking a flyer on Toews or Kane if they’d sign for a small salary with a bunch of incentive bonuses. Toews feels like more of a risk.
    ~PDF

    I think Patches is done, sounds like the time away from his family took it’s toll. I doubt Kane wants to play in Canada. Toews is not likely to come to the Leafs, but if he did I’d happily take a shot on him if he signed for league minimum plus incentives.

    #7131
    23BigQuestions
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    @Unholy_Goalie
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    “This is just hater shit at this point. He stole the puck, made a great pass and helped set up Matthews, who did next to nothing the rest of the series too. Unholy_Goalie
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    Wrong. This is why you I’ve zero credibility with your page after page of arguing just to argue – You have no clue what you watch. Sure you have a load of opinions but they are never actually smart hockey takes cause you’ve never played and don’t get it. You regurgitate things others post on line.

    Tue actual play you spoke about from Mitchy… The Panthers dman made a poor pass to his partner (puck was a tick ahead and rolled off toe – puck went off boards right to Marner who turned with it and shoveled a 2ft pass (through nobody or anything…like any player can do). Matthews went in and scored.

    Marner ‘stole’ the puck and made a ‘great’ pass. More uneducated (hockey wise) bullshit from this clown.

    #7134
    Mr. Sir
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    Marner Boeser Ehlers JT Duchene Nelson
    Bennett Giroux Marchand Palmieri Drouin
    Suter Granlund Benn Kuzmenko Smith Donato Roslovic Mangiapane Gourde Kane Frederic Jeannot Kuraly Armia Brown Raddysh Beauvillier Saad Skinner Cousins Bjugstad Gaudette Tanev Eller Kunin

    Lots of good options
    Pack your 💩 #16

    #7135
    fifty mission cap
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    The question is who on that list changes the “DNA” of the group AND makes us better. Because Tree needs to do both. I don’t envy him.

    #7137
    monkeypunk
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    The question is who on that list changes the “DNA” of the group AND makes us better. Because Tree needs to do both. I don’t envy him.

    ~fifty mission cap

    I’ve said this recently, and I believe it – I don’t think you replace Marner. The point here is that this is a team that loses too many 50/50 battles for pucks. They lose on the boards. Those lose in front of their net. They lose in front of the opposition’s net. The DNA here, in my opinion, is that there’s too much soft and not enough compete.

    Now if I had my way we’d be moving on from Marner, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Kampf and Patches. If they could get Rielly to waive, I’d do that, too – but replacing him would be difficult, because no matter how lousy he is at defense, you still need some puck movement and skating up the ice.

    The guys *I’d* want to target are Bennett, Marchand, Suter, Tanev; I’d see it as Knies-Matthews-Domi; Tavares/Marchand-Bennett-Nylander; Tavares/Marchand-Suter-McMann; Lorentz-Laughton-Tanev. There’s still pop in the top-6, but you add compete and more 50/50 puck battles won and the bottom-6 gains some offensive traction on the 3rd line with defensive awareness and lots of puck battle in that mix. There are a lot of names in the bottom-6 mix which can help a team – Smith is a favourite of mine; I like Roslovic and I appreciate the speed of Mangiapane or Granlund. There are ways to remake parts of this team in ways that compliment the key pieces. Marchand is a guy that I would absolutely target because you need a voice that knows how to win and what it takes to win and can still lead by example. He’d be my #1 target if I were Treliving.

    Does that change the “DNA”? I don’t know – but they need less passivity, and they’re just carrying too much of it with both Mitch and Willy.

    #7139
    Scabeh
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    I’ve said this recently, and I believe it – I don’t think you replace Marner. The point here is that this is a team that loses too many 50/50 battles for pucks. They lose on the boards. Those lose in front of their net. They lose in front of the opposition’s net. The DNA here, in my opinion, is that there’s too much soft and not enough compete.

    Now if I had my way we’d be moving on from Marner, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Kampf and Patches. If they could get Rielly to waive, I’d do that, too – but replacing him would be difficult, because no matter how lousy he is at defense, you still need some puck movement and skating up the ice.

    The guys *I’d* want to target are Bennett, Marchand, Suter, Tanev; I’d see it as Knies-Matthews-Domi; Tavares/Marchand-Bennett-Nylander; Tavares/Marchand-Suter-McMann; Lorentz-Laughton-Tanev. There’s still pop in the top-6, but you add compete and more 50/50 puck battles won and the bottom-6 gains some offensive traction on the 3rd line with defensive awareness and lots of puck battle in that mix. There are a lot of names in the bottom-6 mix which can help a team – Smith is a favourite of mine; I like Roslovic and I appreciate the speed of Mangiapane or Granlund. There are ways to remake parts of this team in ways that compliment the key pieces. Marchand is a guy that I would absolutely target because you need a voice that knows how to win and what it takes to win and can still lead by example. He’d be my #1 target if I were Treliving.

    Does that change the “DNA”? I don’t know – but they need less passivity, and they’re just carrying too much of it with both Mitch and Willy.

    Marchand on the Leafs…. Are you trying to make me hate the Leafs more?

    #7142
    WHIPPER
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    I’ve said this recently, and I believe it – I don’t think you replace Marner.
    ~monkeypunk

    This is exactly it. The Leafs have too many $10M+ guys that all do pretty much the same thing. Some score more, some assist more, but none of them compete particularly hard. We’ve already committed to Willy and Matty, so you’re pretty much stuck with them unless you want to get fleeced in a deal, assuming they waive. (But if you keep asking players to waive, what players are going to want to sign here?).

    Mitch is a hell of a player, but his game simply doesn’t translate in the playoffs. Basically, we’re sacrificing Mitch for some gritty grinders that are going to get the puck out of our zone, and keep it in their zone. We’re sacrificing fancy goals, for gritty goals. You simply don’t see a lot of fancy goals in the playoffs, the vast majority are scrambles in front, tips on point shots, or deflections off someone’s taint.

    #7143
    dmnted
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    Marner Boeser Ehlers JT Duchene Nelson
    Bennett Giroux Marchand Palmieri Drouin
    Suter Granlund Benn Kuzmenko Smith Donato Roslovic Mangiapane Gourde Kane Frederic Jeannot Kuraly Armia Brown Raddysh Beauvillier Saad Skinner Cousins Bjugstad Gaudette Tanev Eller Kunin

    Lots of good options
    Pack your 💩 #16
    -Mr. Sir

    he just re-signed with NYI on a 2 yr deal.

    #7144
    skalapy
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    omg it’s gonna be so fun to watch the grim reaver chase the big hat pencil neck all over the ice in Montreal and finally catch him and smash him into the boards👊🏿

    #7145
    Mr. Sir
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    Rosey 😂

    #7149
    skalapy
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    he has a pretty thick neck and he says he leads by example and his eyes look dead👍

    he uses a lot of filler words 🤦🏿‍♂️

    #7150
    monkeypunk
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    Marchand on the Leafs…. Are you trying to make me hate the Leafs more?

    ~Scabeh

    You definitely would. What them go full bastard and sign Cousins, too. Just throw their hat in the “Someone’s always gonna be suspended!” ring.

    But I look at Edmonton and I think it’s been guys like Keith and Perry who showed the team what it really took to win. Guys who have been there and done it before lead the way. The Leafs need that from someone – or someones. In their past they’ve had Hainsey and I guess Muzzin who were sort of their guys who’d been there and could lead that way. The other guys they had to lead them – Thornton, Marleau, Spezza, Simmonds, Foligno – they’d all won nothing. I suppose they had O’Reilly as well, but I never got the feeling they put him a leadership role as much as they should have.

    #7151
    gravyface
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    Sup fellas, how do you update your avatar on here?

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