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May 30, 2025 at 11:48 am #7126
PDO Speedwagon
ParticipantIt’s quite the accomplishment to put up a forum with modern software that somehow has less features than HB. LOL.
I’m generally against signing geezers, but if Patches retires, I wouldn’t be adverse to taking a flyer on Toews or Kane if they’d sign for a small salary with a bunch of incentive bonuses. Toews feels like more of a risk.
May 30, 2025 at 11:49 am #7127senstrolltwo
ParticipantYou had Zezel sold at decent D.
Wish that guy would smarten up and join us.
not overly big, but gets the job done
May 30, 2025 at 12:28 pm #7128WHIPPER
ParticipantI’m generally against signing geezers, but if Patches retires, I wouldn’t be adverse to taking a flyer on Toews or Kane if they’d sign for a small salary with a bunch of incentive bonuses. Toews feels like more of a risk.
~PDFI think Patches is done, sounds like the time away from his family took it’s toll. I doubt Kane wants to play in Canada. Toews is not likely to come to the Leafs, but if he did I’d happily take a shot on him if he signed for league minimum plus incentives.
May 30, 2025 at 1:11 pm #713123BigQuestions
Participant@Unholy_Goalie
Participant“This is just hater shit at this point. He stole the puck, made a great pass and helped set up Matthews, who did next to nothing the rest of the series too. Unholy_Goalie
Participant…”Wrong. This is why you I’ve zero credibility with your page after page of arguing just to argue – You have no clue what you watch. Sure you have a load of opinions but they are never actually smart hockey takes cause you’ve never played and don’t get it. You regurgitate things others post on line.
Tue actual play you spoke about from Mitchy… The Panthers dman made a poor pass to his partner (puck was a tick ahead and rolled off toe – puck went off boards right to Marner who turned with it and shoveled a 2ft pass (through nobody or anything…like any player can do). Matthews went in and scored.
Marner ‘stole’ the puck and made a ‘great’ pass. More uneducated (hockey wise) bullshit from this clown.
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May 30, 2025 at 1:39 pm #7134Mr. Sir
ParticipantMarner Boeser Ehlers JT Duchene Nelson
Bennett Giroux Marchand Palmieri Drouin
Suter Granlund Benn Kuzmenko Smith Donato Roslovic Mangiapane Gourde Kane Frederic Jeannot Kuraly Armia Brown Raddysh Beauvillier Saad Skinner Cousins Bjugstad Gaudette Tanev Eller KuninLots of good options
Pack your 💩 #16May 30, 2025 at 1:57 pm #7135fifty mission cap
ParticipantThe question is who on that list changes the “DNA” of the group AND makes us better. Because Tree needs to do both. I don’t envy him.
May 30, 2025 at 2:15 pm #7137monkeypunk
ParticipantThe question is who on that list changes the “DNA” of the group AND makes us better. Because Tree needs to do both. I don’t envy him.
~fifty mission cap
I’ve said this recently, and I believe it – I don’t think you replace Marner. The point here is that this is a team that loses too many 50/50 battles for pucks. They lose on the boards. Those lose in front of their net. They lose in front of the opposition’s net. The DNA here, in my opinion, is that there’s too much soft and not enough compete.
Now if I had my way we’d be moving on from Marner, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Kampf and Patches. If they could get Rielly to waive, I’d do that, too – but replacing him would be difficult, because no matter how lousy he is at defense, you still need some puck movement and skating up the ice.
The guys *I’d* want to target are Bennett, Marchand, Suter, Tanev; I’d see it as Knies-Matthews-Domi; Tavares/Marchand-Bennett-Nylander; Tavares/Marchand-Suter-McMann; Lorentz-Laughton-Tanev. There’s still pop in the top-6, but you add compete and more 50/50 puck battles won and the bottom-6 gains some offensive traction on the 3rd line with defensive awareness and lots of puck battle in that mix. There are a lot of names in the bottom-6 mix which can help a team – Smith is a favourite of mine; I like Roslovic and I appreciate the speed of Mangiapane or Granlund. There are ways to remake parts of this team in ways that compliment the key pieces. Marchand is a guy that I would absolutely target because you need a voice that knows how to win and what it takes to win and can still lead by example. He’d be my #1 target if I were Treliving.
Does that change the “DNA”? I don’t know – but they need less passivity, and they’re just carrying too much of it with both Mitch and Willy.
May 30, 2025 at 2:23 pm #7139Scabeh
ParticipantI’ve said this recently, and I believe it – I don’t think you replace Marner. The point here is that this is a team that loses too many 50/50 battles for pucks. They lose on the boards. Those lose in front of their net. They lose in front of the opposition’s net. The DNA here, in my opinion, is that there’s too much soft and not enough compete.
Now if I had my way we’d be moving on from Marner, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Kampf and Patches. If they could get Rielly to waive, I’d do that, too – but replacing him would be difficult, because no matter how lousy he is at defense, you still need some puck movement and skating up the ice.
The guys *I’d* want to target are Bennett, Marchand, Suter, Tanev; I’d see it as Knies-Matthews-Domi; Tavares/Marchand-Bennett-Nylander; Tavares/Marchand-Suter-McMann; Lorentz-Laughton-Tanev. There’s still pop in the top-6, but you add compete and more 50/50 puck battles won and the bottom-6 gains some offensive traction on the 3rd line with defensive awareness and lots of puck battle in that mix. There are a lot of names in the bottom-6 mix which can help a team – Smith is a favourite of mine; I like Roslovic and I appreciate the speed of Mangiapane or Granlund. There are ways to remake parts of this team in ways that compliment the key pieces. Marchand is a guy that I would absolutely target because you need a voice that knows how to win and what it takes to win and can still lead by example. He’d be my #1 target if I were Treliving.
Does that change the “DNA”? I don’t know – but they need less passivity, and they’re just carrying too much of it with both Mitch and Willy.
Marchand on the Leafs…. Are you trying to make me hate the Leafs more?
May 30, 2025 at 3:02 pm #7142WHIPPER
ParticipantI’ve said this recently, and I believe it – I don’t think you replace Marner.
~monkeypunkThis is exactly it. The Leafs have too many $10M+ guys that all do pretty much the same thing. Some score more, some assist more, but none of them compete particularly hard. We’ve already committed to Willy and Matty, so you’re pretty much stuck with them unless you want to get fleeced in a deal, assuming they waive. (But if you keep asking players to waive, what players are going to want to sign here?).
Mitch is a hell of a player, but his game simply doesn’t translate in the playoffs. Basically, we’re sacrificing Mitch for some gritty grinders that are going to get the puck out of our zone, and keep it in their zone. We’re sacrificing fancy goals, for gritty goals. You simply don’t see a lot of fancy goals in the playoffs, the vast majority are scrambles in front, tips on point shots, or deflections off someone’s taint.
May 30, 2025 at 3:12 pm #7143dmnted
ParticipantMarner Boeser Ehlers JT Duchene Nelson
Bennett Giroux Marchand Palmieri Drouin
Suter Granlund Benn Kuzmenko Smith Donato Roslovic Mangiapane Gourde Kane Frederic Jeannot Kuraly Armia Brown Raddysh Beauvillier Saad Skinner Cousins Bjugstad Gaudette Tanev Eller KuninLots of good options
Pack your 💩 #16
-Mr. Sirhe just re-signed with NYI on a 2 yr deal.
May 30, 2025 at 3:17 pm #7144skalapy
Participantomg it’s gonna be so fun to watch the grim reaver chase the big hat pencil neck all over the ice in Montreal and finally catch him and smash him into the boards👊🏿
May 30, 2025 at 3:21 pm #7145Mr. Sir
ParticipantRosey 😂
May 30, 2025 at 4:23 pm #7149skalapy
Participanthe has a pretty thick neck and he says he leads by example and his eyes look dead👍
he uses a lot of filler words 🤦🏿♂️
May 30, 2025 at 4:31 pm #7150monkeypunk
ParticipantMarchand on the Leafs…. Are you trying to make me hate the Leafs more?
~Scabeh
You definitely would. What them go full bastard and sign Cousins, too. Just throw their hat in the “Someone’s always gonna be suspended!” ring.
But I look at Edmonton and I think it’s been guys like Keith and Perry who showed the team what it really took to win. Guys who have been there and done it before lead the way. The Leafs need that from someone – or someones. In their past they’ve had Hainsey and I guess Muzzin who were sort of their guys who’d been there and could lead that way. The other guys they had to lead them – Thornton, Marleau, Spezza, Simmonds, Foligno – they’d all won nothing. I suppose they had O’Reilly as well, but I never got the feeling they put him a leadership role as much as they should have.
May 30, 2025 at 5:06 pm #7151gravyface
ParticipantSup fellas, how do you update your avatar on here?
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